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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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The thread made for everyone (noob or not) that encompasses both turbo and s/c kits, the accessories of each kit, the price, the website, and pics of them. The FI Kits...

TRD Supercharger

TRD USA Website
Sparks Toyota Website
Price: $2950
Output: 180-190hp & 200-210tq @7psi

Components:
- TRD Supercharger
- TRD 400cc Fuel Injectors
- Idle Pully
- TRD lower air-box
- Air Filter
- Bosch Bypass Valve
- TRD fuel supply line
- TRD Denzo spark plugs
- TRD modified heat shield
- Oil Pan with return tube
- Reflash Program (requires reflash ECU adapter; reprograms ECU)
- Upper Radiator hose
- Other misc. accessories (brackets, shims, etc.)
- TRD Badges

Dezod

Dezod Motorsports Website
Price: $3975
Output: 244hp & 255tq @8.7psi

Components:
- Turbonetics Dezod Spec'd T3/T4 turbo
- Stainless Steel manifold (log style)
- Tial 38mm Wastegate
- Charge Piping with Intake
- Dezod Turbo install kit
- Stainless steel downpipe including S-pipe
- HKS BOV
- Fuel System with 550cc injectors
- Stainless Steel braided oil lines & oil pan fittings
- Large Bar and plate front mount intercooler (FMI)
- Clamps and Couplers
- Pretuned GReddy E-manage with Plug N' Play

Zero Point Industries
ZPI Website

Stage 0

Price: $2670
Output: 230whp & 250-260tq @ 6psi

Components:
- Big EVO III 16g Turbo
- Tial Wastegate
- Tial BOV
- Stainless charge piping
- 4 ply couplers
- Stainless manifold
- All fuel and timing tuning already complete
- Pre-tapped Oil Pan
- Satin or black chrome piping
- Misc hardware and instructions

Stage 1

Price: (from ZPI website) $4500; $3999 (RacingSolution.com)
Output: 290-300whp & 300-330tq @9-10.5psi

Components:
- EVO III GT Big 16g (max performance = 400hp)
- Tial Wastegate (color of choice)
- Tial BOV (color of choice)
- Stainless Intercooler piping
- Precision Turbo intercooler with cast end tanks
- Pre tapped oil pan
- Pre tuned Emanage
- 550cc RC injectors
- Stainless Manifold (log style)
- 4 ply couplers
- All Hoses & Accessories

Turbonetics

Turbonetics Website
Price: $4200 (what I found of a thread, $5,975 in the parts section I believe)
Output: 300hp @ 8psi (at crank with 94octane fuel)

Components:
- T3/T4 E-50 Ball Bearing Turbo
- Spearco Intercooler
- Rapter Blow Off Valve
- Evolution Wastegate
- Unichip engine management
- Stainless oil feed line
- TS-1 fully synthetic engine oil
- Taps for oil return and oil feed fittings
- Stainless downpipe with wastegate dump tube
- Cast ductile exhaust manifold (log style)
- Black chrome mendrel bent aluminum intercooler pipes
- Silicone hoses
- K & N filter
- 4 drop-in 630cc Motron high flow injectors
- T-bolt and V-band clamps
- Nuts, Bolts, and fittings

Sound Performance

Sound Performance Website
Price: Scion life = $4500 Retail = $4999
Output: 260hp & 280tq @ 7psi

Components:
- SP TC 32 Turbo (non ball bearing)
- Tubular Stainless Steel Turbo Header
- Delphi 440cc Injectors with clips
- SP TC Front mount intercooler with pipes (bolt on no cutting the bumper)
- SP TC Complete return fuel system
- Fuel system includes
- All high pressure line
- All a/n fittings needed
- Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
- Liquid filled pressure gauge
- Fuel Rail with return fitting welded on
- Tial 38mm waste gate with a 7lb spring
- Turbo XS blow off valve
- Apex Safc II (black or silver)
- Ceramic Coated - Manifold/down pipe/turbo (hot side)
- Powder Coated - Intercooler pipes and Air Intake Pipe(any color)
- Polished-Turbo (compressor housing)
- Oil Pan with fitting welded in
- Oil Return line with fittings
- Oil Supply line with fittings
- Stock fuel pressure regulator welded closed
- All couplers and clamps
- AEM 3in Dry flow filter
- NGK Spark Plugs

Greddy

Greddy
Price: $2700 (shipped)
Output: +100hp & unknown tq (probably about the same)

Components:
- Mitsubishi/GReddy TD-05H 18G turbo
- Stainless steel tubular manifold
- Cat-delete down pipe (2-piece)
- Intercooler included (Type-31V)
- Aluminum intercooler piping
- Airinx Air Intake
- All clamps & necessary components


If there are any mistakes or you want to add some information on a kit just say the word! Stephen
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We include a TiAL BOV (color of choice with matching WG)
Our downpipe includes the S-Pipe too
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We include a TiAL BOV (color of choice with matching WG)
Our downpipe includes the S-Pipe too
Ahh, sorry about that, I will fix it! Very nice kit by the way! also does your kit come with fuel injectors? I know it said fuel system, just didn't know what that consists of... Stephen
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We include a TiAL BOV (color of choice with matching WG)
Our downpipe includes the S-Pipe too
Ahh, sorry about that, I will fix it! Very nice kit by the way! also does your kit come with fuel injectors? I know it said fuel system, just didn't know what that consists of... Stephen
Our kit comes with 550cc injectors

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by t_urbo_C_harged
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We include a TiAL BOV (color of choice with matching WG)
Our downpipe includes the S-Pipe too
Ahh, sorry about that, I will fix it! Very nice kit by the way! also does your kit come with fuel injectors? I know it said fuel system, just didn't know what that consists of... Stephen
Our kit comes with 550cc injectors

Thanks!
Awesome , added it to the list!
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I know that my car is turboed by SP so you all might think im all for them but i thought i would just say the one difference that stands out to me with the comparisons with these kits is that ZPI, Dezod used pre tuned Emanage units and Turbonetics uses a chip and SP was able to do all this with a SAFC. Not saying one is better than the other, just wanted to point that out.
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oh yeah ....... also it would be nice if all companies can meet and battle out against each others kit. We can make an entire event out of it.

Just a suggestion. I'll bring my car.
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Nice comparison post, along with noobies, helps us lazy ppl! I dont get how meeting will help find out which kit is better. They are all tuned differently with different specs. Just my .02!

-Dan
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I think, like clubrsx.com there should be a sticky on the topic "which turbo kit fits me" or something like that...lol
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Originally Posted by BigPinoyTC
I know that my car is turboed by SP so you all might think im all for them but i thought i would just say the one difference that stands out to me with the comparisons with these kits is that ZPI, Dezod used pre tuned Emanage units and Turbonetics uses a chip and SP was able to do all this with a SAFC. Not saying one is better than the other, just wanted to point that out.
do you have any dyno numbers on your kit... yes I noticed the same exact thing, not saying the pre-tuned e-manages are bad and I'm not saying that the Unichip is bad (although you can only get it programmed at a unichip shop, which sucks if you want/need to tune) its just nice that all can be done on a SAFC!
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Originally Posted by datrickster24
Nice comparison post, along with noobies, helps us lazy ppl! I dont get how meeting will help find out which kit is better. They are all tuned differently with different specs. Just my .02!

-Dan
The meet wouldnt be for comparison ... just for the hell of it!!! Its a good excuse for all of us to meet and do nothing but drink, drive fast cars...and if there are some good lookin honies....well you know!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by t_urbo_C_harged
Originally Posted by BigPinoyTC
I know that my car is turboed by SP so you all might think im all for them but i thought i would just say the one difference that stands out to me with the comparisons with these kits is that ZPI, Dezod used pre tuned Emanage units and Turbonetics uses a chip and SP was able to do all this with a SAFC. Not saying one is better than the other, just wanted to point that out.
do you have any dyno numbers on your kit... yes I noticed the same exact thing, not saying the pre-tuned e-manages are bad and I'm not saying that the Unichip is bad (although you can only get it programmed at a unichip shop, which sucks if you want/need to tune) its just nice that all can be done on a SAFC!
My car was the SP test car. The first and only car so far with their kit. The numbers they posted are from my car 260 whp and 280 wtq. Soon to be more hopefully.
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Originally Posted by BigPinoyTC
oh yeah ....... also it would be nice if all companies can meet and battle out against each others kit. We can make an entire event out of it.

Just a suggestion. I'll bring my car.
this would be great! it would be also better if they battled it out as far as prices and tested stock vs. stock with just what comes with the kits, and see who has the best E.T.'s at the track and horsepower numbers on the dyno, and whoever has the best gives away a few kits???

very true that each kit is tuned different, thats why it should be like a contest to see who has tuned theirs the best
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Originally Posted by datrickster24
Nice comparison post, along with noobies, helps us lazy ppl! I dont get how meeting will help find out which kit is better. They are all tuned differently with different specs. Just my .02!

-Dan
Thanks, I thought it would be very convienent so that's why I did it also... I was considering scionspeed but from everything going around about the company and a guys motor blowing, it just wasn't up to my par
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YEAH FREE KIT......I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!









OH NVM I DO HAVE ONE!!!!!!!
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I know that my car is turboed by SP so you all might think im all for them but i thought i would just say the one difference that stands out to me with the comparisons with these kits is that ZPI, Dezod used pre tuned Emanage units and Turbonetics uses a chip and SP was able to do all this with a SAFC. Not saying one is better than the other, just wanted to point that out.
do you have any dyno numbers on your kit... yes I noticed the same exact thing, not saying the pre-tuned e-manages are bad and I'm not saying that the Unichip is bad (although you can only get it programmed at a unichip shop, which sucks if you want/need to tune) its just nice that all can be done on a SAFC!
My car was the SP test car. The first and only car so far with their kit. The numbers they posted are from my car 260 whp and 280 wtq. Soon to be more hopefully.
you need to get a dyno video up ASAP! Must be nice to have the only kit out and have your car be the tester...
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Originally Posted by BigPinoyTC
The meet wouldnt be for comparison ... just for the hell of it!!! Its a good excuse for all of us to meet and do nothing but drink, drive fast cars...and if there are some good lookin honies....well you know!!!!!!
well, if we are going to drive, we should probably not do the drinking
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We can drink!!!!


It'll be a controlled environment. Those who are drunk have to stay the night until they sober up in the morning. We will have a big a$$ camp out!
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Originally Posted by BigPinoyTC
We can drink!!!!


It'll be a controlled environment. Those who are drunk have to stay the night until they sober up in the morning. We will have a big a$$ camp out!

Hell yeah I'm down with that!
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hey guys, well im plannin on gettin turbo for my tc in prolly 4 months or less, well im a noob to this stuff, but def. interested.

first, im prolly not gonna install the turbo my self, so how much wuld it run me for me to get it installed at a quality shop.

Any of these turbos are easier to maintain and such for a beginner liek me and wat kind of stuff do i do to maintain the turbo

one last thing is that my friends have been telling me that turbo is too overwhelming on the tc engine or sometin like tht, is there any truth to this. thnx !



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