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Old 06-01-2012, 06:54 PM
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Default John's Build. Need advice!

For those of you interested in new cams, but can't find useful info. I've had mine installed for bout 5 months and thought i should post my experience with them.
Off the bat, they bought me 15whp and 13ft-lbs. The power curve is what make them worth it. my boost hits @ 2k and im dumping 11psi at no more than 3k rpms. It idles extremely low, round 600rpms. Heres a video of the idle
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It actually idles so low it stalls out often (probably in part to the tune). I’ll post my before and after dynos soon.

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I was wrong, i guess its common for the F/IC to stall the motor.

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more vids. longer and have somone else record so you can give it a little throttle.
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longer videos.....driving ones also...what did you have to do..to make them fit..any head modifactions
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longer videos.....driving ones also...what did you have to do..to make them fit..any head modifactions
Will do, also if i give it any throttle you'll just hear my resignator and glass-pak. Theres tons of DIYs for installing them online.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5121265_replace-camshaft.html

They just replace the stock ones, no modification needed (Unless you have a standalone installed), but its recomened if your going to rev over 7k you also replace your valve springs with double coiled.
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why dont you turn the idle up to where it should be !!!!!! does it pull alot harder with the cams
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my car sounds stock with the cams
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What EMS? The car shouldnt be idling at 600
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Originally Posted by BleackOne
Will do, also if i give it any throttle you'll just hear my resignator and glass-pak. Theres tons of DIYs for installing them online.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5121265_replace-camshaft.html

They just replace the stock ones, no modification needed (Unless you have a standalone installed), but its recomened if your going to rev over 7k you also replace your valve springs with double coiled.
U also have to make sure u have the right clearance. I needed to buy camfollows and And had re-shim all them to the right specs
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every one i know with cams has ether droped a valve or ate thre the cam follower not worth the risk in my opinion does sound nice tho lol
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i rev to 7400 rpm on stock cam feels fine to me
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Originally Posted by trd07tc
What EMS? The car shouldnt be idling at 600
His signature says AEM FIC... OP can you confirm that this is correct?
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Originally Posted by aryana159
i rev to 7400 rpm on stock cam feels fine to me
Doesn't the 2azfe powered camry (5 speed) rev to 7500 rpm anyway? Same engine/head, don't see why it would be a problem.

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Originally Posted by aryana159
every one i know with cams has ether droped a valve or ate thre the cam follower not worth the risk in my opinion does sound nice tho lol
All my cam followers were in great condition. I dropped a valve from the valve keeper breaking into pieces
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I will provide as promised, with vids and dyno graphs tonight. i've been crazy busy as of late. But, i have to change my oil tonight.
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John's Build. Need advice!-2012-06-04_17-54-28_3.jpg

These are my port and valve numbers, i was told the general hp gain is 2.5bhp per 5 CFM's. so, i had a gain of almost 60 cfms, so thats like 30bhp (22? to the wheels)

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John's Build. Need advice!-2012-06-04_17-55-09_436.jpg

ok, so this is part of my dyno results @ 10 psi. (9lbs spring tho)


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same run about 285 to the wheels. Since then I've add a bleed valve (GoFastBits), but im only pushing 11.8lbs with 305whp and 297lbs tq. It was also taken on a different dyno-jet by a buddy of mine. i didnt get a print-out.
Is anyone making better numbers on a stock bottom? I think im going to try 15psi, but im out of timing.

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That's because poor install, incorrect parts used, improper machine work, faulty parts.

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Originally Posted by BlackKnight
That's because poor install, incorrect parts used, improper machine work, faulty parts.

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Care to explain? I had my install all checked out by dyno-comp ( kind of a big deal here in the valley). The only part I wish I didn't buy was the AEM F/IC, but it came with my kit. Improper machine work? I doubt any of my parts are faulty, every thing runs fine. I just haven't seen anyone making more power then me on a stock bottom, unless their running a standalone.
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Originally Posted by BleackOne
Care to explain? I had my install all checked out by dyno-comp ( kind of a big deal here in the valley). The only part I wish I didn't buy was the AEM F/IC, but it came with my kit. Improper machine work? I doubt any of my parts are faulty, every thing runs fine. I just haven't seen anyone making more power then me on a stock bottom, unless their running a standalone.
lol i think pat made over 465 stock engine on emanage ultimate on e85.

E85 is the key lol
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Originally Posted by aryana159
lol i think pat made over 465 stock engine on emanage ultimate on e85.

E85 is the key lol

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...85+stock+block
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bleackone what kind of power did you make from descendant kit or you set up?
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