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jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 12:23 PM

New Product Announcement: The WOT Box - Discounted Group Buy
 
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Hello everyone! I would like to introduce our company, N2MB Racing. We make electronics for performance cars. Our base is in the SRT-4 community and you can check us out over on SRTForums here: N2MB Racing - SRT Forums - SRT4, SRT6, SRT8, SRT10 & Dodge Forum

We have decided to branch out into new vehicle communities and bring our popular WOT Box product to the Scion tC and other Scion cars.

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The WOT Box adds two major features to any car. They are No-lift shifting and 2-step launch control.

The No-Lift Shift feature makes no-lift shifting easy by cutting your engine's ignition for a very short period while you no-lift shift. No-lift shifting is keeping the gas down through the shifft. The ignition cut allows the synchros in your transmission to mesh easily, reducing the chance of missing a gear and damaging your transmission. Keeping your foot down through the shift also allows you to hold boost through the shift, thereby significantly improving your E.T.

The major benefits are:

-Lower ETs
-Reduced chance of missing a gear
-More consistent, effortless shifts
-Reduced wear on the transmission
-Reduced chance of major transmission damage

The 2-Step Launch Control modulates the ignition by dropping power to individual ignition coils to hold the RPM you want to launch at. The turbo will spool up while you do this. You can use this feature for a more consistent and more powerful launch in boost! If your car is naturally aspirated, it will still help you have more consistent launches.

You can read more about the WOT Box on our website at:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotbox

You can view Scion tC specific installation instructions here:
http://www.n2mb.com/sciontcinstallationinstructions

Thank you to NVMyTc for doing the test installation and the write-up.

As an introduction, we will be running a group buy for ScionLife Forum Members for the rest of October. You will receive a $10 discount and the privilege of being one of the first tC's with no-lift shifting and launch control. To check out at the group buy price, visit this website:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotboxgroupbuy


Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions.

Reviews:

Originally Posted by UNiT_xEr0
THAT THING IS INSANE!!! he took me for a spin and wow!! i'm for sure gonna pick that up. stays in boost when you shift. its amazing

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...745942#3745942


Originally Posted by NVMyTc

Originally Posted by unxpectederror
i cant wait :)

also would this be beneficial to the guys with s/c's because i know they build boost differently?

Its good for boost and even the All motor guys.

It will help you get your launch a little more consistant, but most of all it will cut down your time between shifting. You also stay in boost while shifting threw the gears :)

I use to think I could shift fast, but I cant even compare it to a WOT shift.

I have a good amount of people going to the track today with me, I should be able to get some good videos

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...741724#3741724


Originally Posted by NVMyTc
So I went to the track today as soon as it opened and I was only able to get 5 runs in. Since it was my first time at the track with the WOT box I was adjusting it every race.

The track conditions were pretty bad and it was 97*, not the best weather for racing

I had the 2-step set at 2400 RPMS, which worked amazing on the streets but was much too low for the track.

First run was 9.596, 2-step set at 2400 RPMS, bogged on the launch bad, turbo took forever to spool
Second run was 9.272 (my 2nd fastest ever), 2-step set at 2800 RPMS, Tires spun a little but was a pretty mice launch
Third run was 9.318, 2-step set at 2800 RPMS, car hooked well w/o any tire spin but caused the engine to bog a bit
Fourth run was 9.289, 2 step set at 3000 RPMS, Car hooked pretty damn good, spun a bit but was a good run
Fifth run 9.436, 2-step set at 3200 RPMS, had pretty bad wheel hop and was slow into third gear

Right when the weather started to cool down, a guy got in a real bad crash and the races were stopped for 45 minutes while it was cleaned up, so I just watched he rest of the night. WHen I ran my personal best (9.250) I did it in 70* weather. I came damn close to breaking my personal best in 97* weather. I also didnt miss one shift tongiht, when usually i mis a shift about 2-3 runs on a track night.

My average time usually is around 9.5, so it was surprising to see how consistant I was running tonight. 3 of the 5 runs my 60' foot were 2.1XX

let me jut say, I LOVE MY WOT BOX lol

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...742833#3742833


Originally Posted by NVMyTc
Wait till you hear the 2-step, my neighbor thought someone was shooting a gun and ran out of her house to see what was going on LOL

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...744745#3744745

Ace83 10-07-2008 01:20 PM

nice, let me be the 1st to bump it

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 02:30 PM

Thanks!

Thorium06 10-07-2008 08:05 PM

wow this sounds awesome, I'm surprised more people don't seem interested

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 08:09 PM

We've got a couple orders in so far. It usually takes a little while to catch on in each new community, but once it does people are all over it.

java09 10-07-2008 08:19 PM

seems cool. but hawaii has no track so it wouldnt be too useful.. =(

also how does the no lift work? does it feel you start to engage in shifting or do you pre set it for a certain rpm?

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 08:25 PM

The WOT Box wires into your clutch switch and accelerator pedal position sensor (gas pedal). When it detects that you are in WOT and then step on the clutch (no-lift shifting), it automatically engages the no-lift shift. When it sees you step on the clutch first and THEN go to WOT, it engages the 2-step launch control.

So, it is completely automatic and pretty intuitive. You don't have to enable anything or arm it. You can leave it on all the time. Just drive and it takes care of the rest for you.

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 08:25 PM

Also, I hear that many of our customers are using them on the street for normal driving. But, we can't recommend that because our products are for closed course, track use only.

java09 10-07-2008 08:31 PM

so basically when im shifting i keep the clutch to the floor? im confused and noob with this..

and for the 2 step when im stopped just hold the clutch in and rev it up as if i was launching normally, correct?

NVMyTc 10-07-2008 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by java09
so basically when im shifting i keep the clutch to the floor? im confused and noob with this..

and for the 2 step when im stopped just hold the clutch in and rev it up as if i was launching normally, correct?

For no lift shift, you doing everything like you normally would EXCEPT lift off the gas. So you clutch in, shift gears, then clutch out

and you are correct for the 2-step

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 08:49 PM

No problem. You have it backwards. When you are no-lift shifting you keep your right foot on the gas through the shift and use the clutch as normal. The no-lift part is your gas foot, not the clutch foot. That allows you to hold boost through the shift, since the blow-off valve does not have to open, if the throttle does not close.

For the launch control, you hold the clutch in like normal, but then instead of revving it up normally, you floor the gas completely. It will kick in and hold the RPM you programmed, instead of hitting the rev limiter. Then you quickly let off the clutch to launch.

NVMyTc 10-07-2008 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by jon_n2mb
Also, I hear that many of our customers are using them on the street for normal driving. But, we can't recommend that because our products are for closed course, track use only.

Lets just say that getting on the Freeway is much more fun lol

Only up to the speed limit of course :P

Pecka13 10-07-2008 09:01 PM

thats awesome, sounds like the technology that the Murcielago has

java09 10-07-2008 09:03 PM

^^cool beans.

ok so how much does this thing run? and how do i adjust the rpms for the launch? what you have yours at nv?

java09 10-07-2008 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Pecka13
thats awesome, sounds like the technology that the Murcielago has

and the 08-09 cobalt SS :rofl: :rofl:

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by java09
^^cool beans.

ok so how much does this thing run? and how do i adjust the rpms for the launch? what you have yours at nv?

We're running an introductory group buy. You can checkout here:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotboxgroupbuy

The regular website page is here:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotbox

The user's guide to explain programming is here:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotboxusersguide

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by java09

Originally Posted by Pecka13
thats awesome, sounds like the technology that the Murcielago has

and the 08-09 cobalt SS :rofl: :rofl:

Yup. Standard on the new Cobalt SS Turbo. Here are some snips from reviews about how it works on the Cobalt:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotbox2

Also the new EVOs....

Our box makes it available for everyone. Some of our reviews are here:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotboxinaction

And we have videos all over youtube. Just search for N2MB and you'll see them.

java09 10-07-2008 09:13 PM

before i order it... being that i am boosted how well would the 2 step work... making 310whp. i have mjor traction issues off the line thats why. sorry for all the questions but that just means i like it! hahaha

jon_n2mb 10-07-2008 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by java09
before i order it... being that i am boosted how well would the 2 step work... making 310whp. i have mjor traction issues off the line thats why. sorry for all the questions but that just means i like it! hahaha

If you are turbocharged, you will see the most benefit. If you are traction limited, you can dial down the launch RPM and it will at least help you to be more consistent. When you are running slicks, then you will see the most improvement with the 2-step. You will be able to raise the launch RPM much higher and start to spool the turbo before you launch. That will help cut fast and consistent 60' times.

The no-lift shifting is fun all around because it allows you to stay in boost through the shift.

java09 10-07-2008 09:22 PM

for the no lift i could just leave it on the auto setting or how does the adjustments on this part work? and for the 2 step i just read about it and how to make the adjustments while holding the clutch down till i reach my desired rpm! nice!


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