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erik_the_great 04-08-2012 12:09 AM

T3/t4 turbo clearance issues.
 
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Hey everybody! This is my first time posting in a year or so, so don't burn me too hard.

Anyways, long story short, I'm slowly collecting parts to make my own turbo kit, and so far I have a goodspeed t3/t4 turbo and their cast manifold. I went to mock it up today to start fabricating the intercooler piping as well as the down tube and wastegate dump. Well everything went fine as far as removing the stock manifold and cat, and installing the turbo manifold was a cake walk, but then I go to bolt up the turbo, and it seems like everything that exists in the engine bay wants to fight me... I rotated the compressor housing in every possible direction but nothing seemed to help, so I removed the electric fans. Now the turbo is able to bolt up to the manifold, and I believe I have enough room to fabricate a dump pipe and run the i/c piping, but I can't get the electric fans back in. Now it seems to me that I have two options, send the manifold back and buy one with the flange moved back twords the engine about 3/4", or buy some slimmer electric fans. But before I do either of those, I would like some opinions from you guys on here. I have mad respect for some of you and would like to see if you can offer anything else.

BTW, I know that everyone and their mom hates on cast manifolds and the godspeed brand, and that they are not good for power, but I am literally only planning on running 5 PSI. This is not a race car, it's my DD, and I just want a little something that I can show off with.

Thank you all in advance for your helpful suggestions.

sebbyxtc 04-08-2012 01:11 AM

Turn it so the cold side is facing down. If it ends up not being able to fit, get an aftermarket radiator and some slim fans and mount them on the outside blowing air towards the radiator.

erik_the_great 04-08-2012 01:33 AM

Thanks, that may be the route I end up taking, but why would I need a aftermarket radiator? Any Suggestions on electric fans?

sebbyxtc 04-08-2012 01:37 AM

You dont need one, thats just being fancy. I have no idea, maybe someone can chime in?

emrules2001 04-08-2012 02:58 AM

I believe Mishimoto and Koyo are our only options

borderguy881 04-08-2012 03:44 AM

take the manifold and turbo of as a whole, rotate the turbo so the outlet faces down leave it loose so you can slightly roatate as its in the car, that turbo shold have no issues with the fan shroud off, i ran a 60-1 with the same manifold ad stock radiator

erik_the_great 04-08-2012 03:55 AM

Did you run that manifold/turbo with the stock electric fans? Or did you run an aftermarket fan setup?

borderguy881 04-08-2012 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by erik_the_great (Post 3998668)
Did you run that manifold/turbo with the stock electric fans? Or did you run an aftermarket fan setup?

yes i ran the stock fans but i had to do some trimming to the driver side fan blades

crush02342002 04-08-2012 01:30 PM

p-tuning and dezod have a great set of fans. I dont trust the mish fans and ill tell you why. At first they work just fine but over time the fan shaft will rust and slow down the fan speed, next thing you know they just wont knock the heat down.

the p-tuning fans are set up as push-pull configuration. I think dezod's is set up the same way. one fan will mount where the motor will face the bumper and the other will mount so the motor will face the engine.

rhythmnsmoke 04-08-2012 03:06 PM

Slim Fans and 8psi..good to go. 5psi is pointless.

erik_the_great 04-08-2012 05:02 PM

Just looked up both the fan kits and they are both way out of my budget for this paycheck lol. But from my perspective the slim fans seem to be cheaper then getting a different manifold. Looks like my project gets to wait a few more weeks.

Oh hey! By the way, does anybody have a 35 or 38mm wastegate that you want to get rid of? I figured the w/g is the only thing I don't want to go cheap on, and I've got my mind set on a 38mm tial.

Syldrin 04-08-2012 06:13 PM

check the classified section. there are tons of part outs there.

crush02342002 04-08-2012 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke (Post 3998920)
Slim Fans and 8psi..good to go. 5psi is pointless.


:question:..what are you talking about trav? boost pressure has nothing to do with it..23psi on stock fans all day with ambiant of 100f+

borderguy881 04-08-2012 09:29 PM

I ended up picking up slim fans at pep boys I think they are 30 bucks

crush02342002 04-09-2012 01:01 AM

^^hehehe...not going to lie iv stared at prolly the same set wondering just how good they are.

borderguy881 04-09-2012 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by crush02342002 (Post 3999110)
^^hehehe...not going to lie iv stared at prolly the same set wondering just how good they are.

I've been runnin one as a pull on my half size dual core civic radiator on my tc, been a year have had no issues it was over heating as a push though

borderguy881 04-09-2012 08:49 AM

Then again as a push it blocked all of the core so that understandable

rhythmnsmoke 04-09-2012 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by crush02342002 (Post 3999019)
:question:..what are you talking about trav? boost pressure has nothing to do with it..23psi on stock fans all day with ambiant of 100f+




Originally Posted by erik_the_great (Post 3998540)
BTW, I know that everyone and their mom hates on cast manifolds and the godspeed brand, and that they are not good for power, but I am literally only planning on running 5 PSI. This is not a race car, it's my DD, and I just want a little something that I can show off with.

That's what I'm talking about.

Syldrin 04-09-2012 02:05 PM

i think he meant why do fans matter except for clearance issues travis.

rhythmnsmoke 04-09-2012 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Syldrin (Post 3999285)
i think he meant why do fans matter except for clearance issues travis.


I was addressing two subjects at the same time.

Clearance - Get some slim lines
Boost - don't waste your time with 5psi, run at least 8.

I wasn't saying fans mattered in boost pressures...


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