Cat-back vs. Axle-back vs. Manifold-back
07-09-2004, 01:22 PM
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Cat-back vs. Axle-back vs. Manifold-back
Can someone in a nutshell tell me what the performance differences are between the 3?
Is one preferable for stick vs. automatic?
Is an axle-back more just for sound?
Which is most bang for buck?
Is one preferable for stick vs. automatic?
Is an axle-back more just for sound?
Which is most bang for buck?
07-09-2004, 01:50 PM
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The idea is less resistance and smoother ehxaust...
The manifold back is preferred..
The cat-back is second...
The axle back is never really preferred :D But if you get it, it would be third.
The more piping that's changed out for performance piping, the less resistance, the better flow.
Really, don't expect more than 2 HP difference from the different levels, unless you change the piping diameter (to 3 in).
Now a full exhaust, that's a different story... :twisted:
The manifold back is preferred..
The cat-back is second...
The axle back is never really preferred :D But if you get it, it would be third.
The more piping that's changed out for performance piping, the less resistance, the better flow.
Really, don't expect more than 2 HP difference from the different levels, unless you change the piping diameter (to 3 in).
Now a full exhaust, that's a different story... :twisted:
07-09-2004, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bofa
The idea is less resistance and smoother ehxaust...
The manifold back is preferred..
The cat-back is second...
The axle back is never really preferred :D But if you get it, it would be third.
The more piping that's changed out for performance piping, the less resistance, the better flow.
Really, don't expect more than 2 HP difference from the different levels, unless you change the piping diameter (to 3 in).
Now a full exhaust, that's a different story... :twisted:
The manifold back is preferred..
The cat-back is second...
The axle back is never really preferred :D But if you get it, it would be third.
The more piping that's changed out for performance piping, the less resistance, the better flow.
Really, don't expect more than 2 HP difference from the different levels, unless you change the piping diameter (to 3 in).
Now a full exhaust, that's a different story... :twisted:
07-09-2004, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by explicit tC
also with each level your exhaust gets louder
Back to the topic:
The axle back is for inexpensive performance and great sound. 2HP
The cat back is for people who want a little more HP than the axle back and not pay a lot for it. 4+HP
The manifold back is for people who know they want more power out of the box and are considering adding headers to finish it off for no delay in power!
6+HP(Not including headers, intake and or sparkplugs)
07-09-2004, 04:24 PM
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I wouldn't go to a 3" exhaust on a stock 1.5l unless you did a major rebuild and were running a turbo w/ crazy boost. If you just plan on going with a CAI and a header, like from DC Sports, I would get a 2.25" exhaust all the way thru.
I have the Injen short ram, DC Sports header, and Tanabe axleback. I';m perfectly happy w/ this setup as it has just enuff passing power at 80 mph, and I actually hear the air being sucked by the short ram more than I hear the exhaust.
I have the Injen short ram, DC Sports header, and Tanabe axleback. I';m perfectly happy w/ this setup as it has just enuff passing power at 80 mph, and I actually hear the air being sucked by the short ram more than I hear the exhaust.
07-09-2004, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Stylis
Originally Posted by explicit tC
also with each level your exhaust gets louder
6+HP(Not including headers, intake and or sparkplugs)
Thanks.
07-09-2004, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmbritton
Originally Posted by Stylis
Originally Posted by explicit tC
also with each level your exhaust gets louder
6+HP(Not including headers, intake and or sparkplugs)
Thanks.
07-09-2004, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by showpaojoe
Just don't go 2.25 straight pipe and headers...huh stylis 
The manifold back system is 500.00 plus shipping. A very powerful piece of exhaust experimentation that I have come up with. Works great and is deep sounding.
07-09-2004, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmbritton
Originally Posted by showpaojoe
Just don't go 2.25 straight pipe and headers...huh stylis
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07-10-2004, 05:36 AM
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So, the manifold back is only as loud as the axle back on the auto tranny?
Stylis, if you did the install how long would it take for the manifold back? How long does it take to install the cat back? How much is your cat back just for autos, if youhave one? So many choices, so many questions...
Stylis, if you did the install how long would it take for the manifold back? How long does it take to install the cat back? How much is your cat back just for autos, if youhave one? So many choices, so many questions...
07-11-2004, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Al.Truistic
So, the manifold back is only as loud as the axle back on the auto tranny?
Stylis, if you did the install how long would it take for the manifold back? How long does it take to install the cat back? How much is your cat back just for autos, if youhave one? So many choices, so many questions...
Stylis, if you did the install how long would it take for the manifold back? How long does it take to install the cat back? How much is your cat back just for autos, if youhave one? So many choices, so many questions...
07-11-2004, 01:26 PM
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:D Gabe, the auto Scion exhaust looks better and better. Does that take long to install? I really want a rolled edge tip tho! Can you do this too? I like the rolled edge tips you have on-line.
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Originally Posted by Stylis
it takes 2 hours for the manifold back system to be installed at the scion central. One hour, if I ship it to you to install yourself at home. And I recomend that you get the magna flow cat back if you really want a catback.
07-11-2004, 06:33 PM
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A rolled tip for an auto axle back...one of the angled ones on Precisionmuffler.com. Those are nice...
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Originally Posted by Stylis
do you mean the auto axle back exhasut for a rolled tip or the manifold back?