Sciontuner

ohn and now back on subject, i have DC header and exhaust, and a k&n typhoon intake. i have a fabulous kit and some heavy 18 inch rims, and air ride suspension, i cant even count how many times a day a car will come flyin up on my ___, be it 240s eclipses civics tcs all sorts of cars that arent even that fast stock, lookin for the "easy kill"


ill get in at least 3 tussles on the way home from work today

ehj

To have a 600hp Civic you'd spend THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS just on the engine alone.

You have also got to be kidding me if you think a 600hp Civic can be driven on the streets. You couldn't even take a turn if your life depended on it

Sciontuner

where would you like to meet him, well be at palmdale, its daily driven and you can believe me or not. ill be building this turbo del sol for 400 hp next month. ill send you dynos track days whatever youd like sir. and to get 600 hp out of a civic, is about 8000 to 10000 dollars.

xSTANDxSTRONGx

you'd need to have 1200hp in a 3800lb car to match the p/w.

Sciontuner

so youd need 1200 in a 3000 lb car to beat it ;) but either way, you get my point.

ehj

A civic is NOT 1,900lbs, it's actually about 2,700lbs. Adding engine modifications will only ADD WEIGHT.

Also a 2006 BMW M3 is 3,415lbs. NOT 3,800 so stop lying.

Learn basic math.
2,700/600 = 4.5lbs/hp
3,415/1200 = 2.85lbs/hp

Although in principle, power to weight works, not all the time. A FWD car would require MORE power to out accelerate a RWD car due to the FWD's traction handicap. That's just the laws of physics.

Btw, an M3 would need about 750hp to equal the lb/hp of your 600hp Civic. 750 from an inline 6 is easier and CHEAPER than it is from a 1.6 or 1.8 lawn mower.

IaMVinhamese

some guy in a crx was revving at me in front of a fire department. i shook my head at him but he still took off at the green.

kronicillusionz

yeah, I wouldnt say the tC isnt the fastest thing on the planet.
I only get called out by +$25g cars, New eclipses' and Evo Lancers mainly. why they gotta pick on the little guy? lol

Brakefade

Show them a fake police badge, and give them a stern disapproving look.

Sciontuner

2000 dollars for a gsr, 3000 for a drag 3 turbo kit, 1000 dollar to darton sleeve it, 25 lbs of boost = around 500 hp or so....you cant even get a dinan intake for 6000 dollars, i had a 540. you cannot turbo an m3 for cheaper than an inline 4 cylinder car SORRY, NOT cheaper

a civic does NOT weigh 2700 lbs. a 1993 cx hatchback weighs about 2200 with full interior. how could a scion xb with 4 doors weight 300 lbs less. if you need proof....here

http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/U...reviewshowall/

coupe=2231 hatch=2108 sedan=2213

so stop lying.

learn basic car specs.

i hate people and their faux knowledge. ive been doing this for years and years now. i dont need to prove a thing to you actually, ive seen everything stated here. at churches automotive in southern california. please stop talking.

Neothin

i've only been challenged by 1 car at a light, an older mirage that runs around port st lucie and has a 4g63 swap in it. pretty quick car that runs low 12's

i didnt feel like losing.

on the other hand, i rev at cars all the damn time. but only cars that i really want to see move down the road. like the 06 z06 i came up on last night ^^

Sciontuner

haha ya ^^^ i do that too, i raced a viper on yucaipa blvd one time, just to see him take off in a roaring cloud of smoke as my car is whizzing n buzzing up to 35.

gizmo

Damn, why is it that no one wants to race me?

ehj

A GSR weights in at 2,700lbs.

Wow, I guess after you buy all those parts, they magically appear under the hood. LOL. Having them installed could cost you just as much as the parts.


M3 turbo kits are available for $6,999 good for an additional 180hp at the wheels with stock internals.

Turbo chargin a honduh to get 600hp will cost up up to $10,000. Not to mention your transmission will fall apart before you go farther than a block.
My sister went thru 3 transmissions on her Civic before reaching 80,000 miles. So much for honduh reliability. Not to mention many CL and MDX are dropping transmissions left and right.

A 2006 model DOES. I'm comparing it with a 2006 M3.

I wouldn't call flapping your lips and being an internet racer "actual experience". If I could have a dime for everytime a ricing idiot jacks off to the notion of engine swapping, I'd be a fuking millionaire. "Well if I turbo a civic with a b16GSRtypeS-Vspec-JDM motor with a motec exhaust, I'd own every LS1 in the block."
_____ please.

xSTANDxSTRONGx

I assume this is what you're referring to?
I was actually calling him a liar, saying to require 1200hp you'd need a 3800lb car.
But since you wanna jump on everything anyone says:

Sciontuner

GSR MOTOR. and i install it myself. and im talking about the actual vehicle ive seen, not specs from the factory. do you live in california, i urge you to come talk to me, in a civil manner, and i will show you all motor hondas that do beat ls1s. and i know of civics preludes del sols integras that beat ls6's too. im building my first project of my own this year. and i know it seems lame to talka bout other peoples cars, but after the days hours blood sweat n tears ive put into those motors, i do have pride in them, and i know that they are fast. whether or not you believe it is on you, but ive lived it and i know. you can purchase a civic, the motor, and the mods for all less than 8000 dollars all motor and beat evos stis ls1 corvettes all day. and if you cant respect that because it is a honda, thats sad. sorry man. i do all my work myself or with help from friends....hondas a family, built not bought man. have a little respect.

Sciontuner

im not trying to jump on anyones case here, and im not getting anywhere with my arguement so ill stop. i just wish that people would have respect for cars that have time invested, regardless of make n model. sorry all.

ehj

$8,000 will get you a very fast used F body. You can buy one with a dead motor for under $1,000 and the remaining would be more than enough for a nitrous breathing big block that would chop that civic into pieces.

I would respect those Hondas if they actually quit comparing themselves to BONESTOCK LS1s and b1tching about how they embarassed one.

xSTANDxSTRONGx

in your first quote it says 2000 dollars and you say it's 2700lbs why? He's talking about cost and you bring up weight like you're correcting him

Your second quote, He said he's building a car himself, so forget install price.

also in your 2nd quote he adds up $6k to get it 500hp just add the tranny.

I don't know enough about BMW's to comment on your 3rd, so..

4th He says getting a 4banger tuboed, is cheaper than a BMW turbo, not that it would be cheaper to turbo a civic up to 600hp than to buy a turbo for a BMW.

5th He's clearly not talking about an '06 model civic!

Now your last quote
He says in your quote that he's actually seen all the cars he talked about. That doesn't sound like "internet racing" to me.
Finally aobut you
Everything you say on these forums makes me, and prolly other people, lose respect for you. Please remove yourself from this forum which you obviously have no respect for. I don't know what you're doing on a Scion forum since you sound like a die hard Muscle Head.

xSTANDxSTRONGx

You might be able to kill a civic in a drag, but take it to an autoX and you'll be picking cones out of you rims for weeks.
Oh and BTW Firebirds (F-bodies for those that don't know) SUCK AS$! They are designed worse than any car I have ever seen!