A specialist from Scion National Headquarter called me yesterday morning (They had told me to call me again one month later, they did so by this time) telling me that Toyota and Scion are working on the Hatchback rattle issue. Hopefully, there will be a TSB coming soon, but he cannot guarantee it. As soon as the TSB comes out, he will inform me accordingly. In addition to the above, he asked me for a survey for the specialist by email. I gave him all excellence.

 

Instead of _____ing about the car, why not go to your dealership, act civil (read: not like an ___ with a $60K car) and tell them what's wrong.

I swear if most of the people who own Scions with rattles owned a Celica, like I always say, they would've shot themselves in the head by now.

I owned a 2000 Celica GTS before my tC and that thing had rattles and squeaks like there was no tomorrow, not to mention the condensation in the headlights, squeaking belt tensioner (which by the way was never recalled, only TSB'd and no new part made) and the kicker: the vvtl-i lift bolts which broke and caused the car to lose power at cam switchover.

You have a rattle in your hatch, so do I, but I'm dealing with it...just be thankful you don't have a problem that will cause your tC to look like crap or lose power.

*I'll probably be flamed by someone cuz I said deal with it...*

 

well, I'm going to keep this thread going as I have noticed a nasty rattle coming from my hatch. Thankfully no sunroof popping. For those who say grin and bear it, sorry, it's a new car, hatchback or not it shouldn't be rattling to all hell going over a normal residential neighborhood street (I'd understand if it only did it going over major pot holes).

 

So, did you figure out exactly what it's coming from? It should take you and a friend about 5 minutes.

 

I have spent many times to pin point where is the rattle from the hatchback and have found out it seems that it is coming from between the glass and plastic of the hatchback and also another one is coming from the right tail corner below the trunk. I think that they are not easy to be fixed by myself or the dealer. It is a problem in design how to hold a big piece of glass of a hatchback and I doubt that Scion can soon issue a TSB for this mistake.

 

car to suggest something then as I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.
thanks

 

My sunroof has started acting up (yeah, I know there's a TSB on it), and my hatchback has gotten worse.. the car sounds like its going to fall apart now whenever I drive it, that isn't cool.

Someone from the Scion regional office is supposed to be contacting me to look at it..

 

What is strange about my moonroof noise and hatchback noise is that sometimes, there is no rattle. I go over the same bump an hour later and viola, there it is. Then sometimes when the car has just started going there is a rattle. Makes no sense but hopefully I will get the TSB on the moonroof done this week and can report back on that part at least.

Still I have the music on about 95% of the time and that buffers any rattles, etc....

Kevin

 

Okay, first do this after you've done the other things, like taken EVERYTHING (spare, jack, etc.) out of the car and checked to see if the rattle is still there.

Take off the cargo cover.

Your friend sits in the back seat with a roll of masking tape, while you drive. When he hears the rattle, he puts an X in masking tape where he thinks the sound came from (if he's not sure, he puts it in more than one place).

Then you either check the spots he X'd for loose fit or take it in to the dealer.

 

update: Took my tc to the dealer for the rattles in the hatch and (at least today - first day back from them) it looks like they fixed it. They tightened the trunk latch, e.g., adjusted it so that the closed trunk wouldn't have so much movement. They also removed the plastic trim panel at the bottom of the hatch (black part) and packed it with felt insulation. Just a heads up to those experiencing the same problem. I'll post back in a few days if it's still fixed and the rattles are still banished.

 

whatsup the number i need to call about all the noises....ive had this whistling noise that i belive is comming from the windshield but not sure and the dealer has heard it twice BUT since recendly it only happens when u go over 80 with the car they say they cant fix it cause they can only go 70 and if they dont hear it going that speed that they cant hear it. The problem mainly makes noise when its really windy outside..then u dont have to go so fast to hear it. so if anyone can post up the number i need to call again that would be helpfull. thanks

 

Here's a test I mentioned a while back but no one seemed to notice. Try this:

Take your fist, and *beat* (relatively hard, not nearly enough to break the glass of course) the glass towards the top left, top middle, top right, and bottom left, bottom middle, bottom right side, and see if you hear anything abnormal from either side. For me, and I imagine everyone else when they do this, it comes from the bottom middle. When i beat that part, it has an aftershock with a similar noise i hear on the road.

 

Hi Cmose:

This is an exciting good news that the hatch rattle has been fixed by your dealer. Please try it few more days and keep us updated. If this is really fixed. Scion should issue the TSB instead of keeping silence to the tC owners.

 

I'll let you know if it turns up again - when I called and spoke with scion directly last week to let them know about the problem, the gentleman I spoke with on the phone said that they were working on putting together a tsb for it. How believable that is I don't know (he also said he has a tc and it has the hatch rattle as well ;) ).

 

Thank you for your information. The gentleman who you talked with at Scion has the
same hatch rattle at his tC. This will help to push for the TSB from Scion because he obviously feels the same pain.

 

Hey all,

This is my first post. I have owned my TC for about 4 months (VIN: 5047) and have had the same problems that most of you have reported. When I spoke with the Scion customer relations people in CA, they issued me a case number and contacted my dealership to set up an appointment to fix any problems. I had three major issues: 1) the black trim that is on the outside of the driver's door, under the window is starting to separate itself from the door-They special ordered a new one and will contact me when it arrives. 2) There were creaks coming from the moonroof-They performed the repair outlined in the TSB and it was fixed, but now it is starting to slowly come back. 3) There is a rattle in the cargo area on the passenger side-They were unable to resolve this issue-Somehave written that the rattle is coming from the reel for the moonroof visor, but it sounds as if the rattle is coming from further back in the car. I can hear the rattle if I shut the driver's door with some force. No fix yet.

I did speak with Scion customer relations after my service visit and reported to them that they did all they could and that they did not know what the rattle was. They documented everything in the case file. The last thing that they told me was that they have had many reports of the cargo/hatch rattle and that there are R&D people that are working on the cargo/hatch rattle and that they would contact me when a TSB was issued. From my experience with customer relations, I would say that I trust them and that they will come up with a fix soon enough.

Other than..."Mazda ain't got nuthin' on the ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM in my TC!"

HP

 

Thanks for update HPARK17. I had the TSB done last week and so far so good. However he did the TSB and still heard the noise and had to do something else with the front of moonroof with glass/rubber gasket. Not sure what.

Sometimes I hear a rattle coming from Hatch area but will wait on TSB. This one is not a biggie as it is not all the time or very loud.

Kevin

 

my 1991 300ZX from Nissan didnt have a single chassis or interior
squeak or rattle until 120,000 miles and 14 years old, and yes its a hatchback that went through hell and back.aaaaaaaaaaah what a car.

 

Okay,

For about the last 2 months I have read repeated complaints about the rattle in the rear cargo compartment of the 2005 Scion TC. I had a day off and was hanging with a friend trying to find some answers to the problem. We decided to handle this the old fashioned way and do the tap test. If you want a thought that will bring a smile to your face, imagine 2 grown men lying face up in the passenger/cargo compartment of a TC and wildly tapping on everything that they can reach :? . But I digress...the answer that you have all been waiting for....

Actually, maybe I could sell the DIY fix on eBay??? PayPal preferred??!!

Just Kidding!

Alright....Go to the trunk compartment of the TC and take out the cover for the spare tire and storage compartment (the big carpeted piece). You will see two foam storage inserts on either side, the spare tire in the middle, and the tool kit on top of the spare. You will need to remove the foam storage insert on the right-hand side (the one without the jack)...To do this you will need to either remove the two snap pins that hold the insert in place, or you can simply pull the entire foam insert with a little pressure and the pins will remove themselves. Be careful because you need those pins and they tend to shoot off if you're not careful.

Okay, now if you look at the lip of the trunk area (where the lock on the hatchback actually meets the metal ring to lock), there is a plastic moulding that sits in the middle. On the right-hand side, the moulding ends and the fuzzy, "carpeted" interior begins. STOP!! Put your hand just at the beginning of the fuzzy part and tap. You should hear a fairly loud plastic on plastic sound. The other side doesn't make that sound.

If you reach under the fuzzy lining, you will find a flat, straight, hard plastic edge. It seems as if this perpendicular edge was molded to keep the lining from sinking into the bodywork. It doesn't quite reach the actual body, so it seems to tap and rattle under rough conditions. It seems that the two sides are molded differently on the inside, where people usually don't see or feel around in. I placed a piece of foam rubber into the crevice, under this molded edge. I was only able to take a short test drive, but that seemed to get rid of the rattle.

Hopefully, this will end the rattle saga for everyone, and if there is someone out there that is in a timezone that still has daylight, then let me know if this is the fix. I will check for myself tomorrow.

Good Luck,

HP

 

all i have to say is, if that is the final solution, you get the macgyver of the month award!