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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
This header added 6-9whp (depending on RPM point) across the entire RPM band and not just at peak on a bone stock TC2. Any other added supporting mods are icing on the cake. The header is truly a champion and a testament to Dezod R&D.

I like that you guys support n/a tcs and hope to see more from you because I am definitely interested.
Old Aug 26, 2013 | 04:27 AM
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i saw on your dezod website there is the headers green and red..same price so i dont get the difference due to practically no description on almost every item i came across..and if anyone else reads this what exactly is the difference between the actual stock headers vs aftermarket, just dont know much of what would be the changing factors i guess
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If you read the descriptions, you will see the difference. the red header is an off road cat-less variant of the green header. the green header has a high flow cat built in and is guaranteed to not throw CEL.

both have 4-1 collectors, same as stock. don't know all the technical details, but they are better optimized and produce more power. i was among the very first people to own the green header for the tC2 last year, but that's just me reading the descriptions.
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Originally Posted by jcraff3
i saw on your dezod website there is the headers green and red..same price so i dont get the difference due to practically no description on almost every item i came across..and if anyone else reads this what exactly is the difference between the actual stock headers vs aftermarket, just dont know much of what would be the changing factors i guess
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If you read the descriptions, you will see the difference. the red header is an off road cat-less variant of the green header. the green header has a high flow cat built in and is guaranteed to not throw CEL.

both have 4-1 collectors, same as stock. don't know all the technical details, but they are better optimized and produce more power. i was among the very first people to own the green header for the tC2 last year, but that's just me reading the descriptions.
The red's verbiage reads as follows "This header is a catless, off-road variant of our "Green header".
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Just out of curiosity, Paul, are there any sound clips floating around for the red tC2 header?
Old Aug 26, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by biglilsteve
Just out of curiosity, Paul, are there any sound clips floating around for the red tC2 header?
I don't have any, but there may be some on youtube
Old Aug 26, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
The red's verbiage reads as follows "This header is a catless, off-road variant of our "Green header".
yea i messages biglilsteve saying i think it was just me having a lack of knowledge on the subject..as in what a catless and cat header literally are, and the actually difference from a stock header and aftermarket one..just been trying to figure it out
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Originally Posted by jcraff3
yea i messages biglilsteve saying i think it was just me having a lack of knowledge on the subject..as in what a catless and cat header literally are, and the actually difference from a stock header and aftermarket one..just been trying to figure it out
The Terms "Cat Header"/"Catted Header" and "Catless Header" refer to a header having the Catalytic Converter installed. The Catalytic Converter can be removed entirely but this would negate the emissions controls and be illegal in some areas.

If you are curious what a Catalytic Converter is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter
Old Aug 27, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BrokenTusk
The Terms "Cat Header"/"Catted Header" and "Catless Header" refer to a header having the Catalytic Converter installed. The Catalytic Converter can be removed entirely but this would negate the emissions controls and be illegal in some areas.

If you are curious what a Catalytic Converter is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter
Exactly! Thanks for the clarification.
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makes much more sence thanks man..again im new to wanting to customize the hell out of my car

can you or someone tell me in what ways the aftermarket headers produce the extra hp? like w an intake i know how cuz of p[placement, pipe design, and filter..but headers to me are just pipes of hot ___ steal idk the difference
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Originally Posted by jcraff3
makes much more sence thanks man..again im new to wanting to customize the hell out of my car

can you or someone tell me in what ways the aftermarket headers produce the extra hp? like w an intake i know how cuz of p[placement, pipe design, and filter..but headers to me are just pipes of hot ___ steal idk the difference
Personal Opinion: After looking over the differences between the OEM header and the Dezod version I noticed a few things.
1) The Dezod version uses a more efficient Catalytic Converter (Also known as a High-Flow Cat) which is a much smaller size then the OEM model. These High Flow types of Cats are designed with performance in mind.
2) The OEM Tubing becomes slightly constrictive in its bends, leading me to believe they were bent using a different method then the Dezod type.
3) The OEM Tubing has a lot sharper turns, these sudden turns cause high turbulence and Eddy Currents to develop in any flow type situation. The Dezod tybe uses wider tubing curves to compensate for this.
4) Each section of OEM tubing does not use the same tube length between the Manifold to the 4 to 1 collector. The Dezod type matches lengths as closely as possible, this design also reduces turbulence created at the collector section.
5) Uncertain of this one: I believe the Dezod header uses a slightly wider diameter of tubing versus the OEM style as well.
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well damn perfectly answered then lol finally someone able to let me know a little of whats going on..sounds like well worth the price
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Originally Posted by jcraff3
well damn perfectly answered then lol finally someone able to let me know a little of whats going on..sounds like well worth the price
I cheated, my education is based in the engineering world.

I would say it is, more than happy with mine.
Old Aug 28, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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yea but damn nobody ever gives a damn to give the right answer I asked a dozen different times in different threads..all I got was it has a cat apposed to not having a cat..thanks lol but yea once I rob a bank itl b the first thing I buy
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Just wanted to bump this thread since I saw hints of a group buy on the original Dezod header thread. Any more news on this Paul?
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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+1 for a group buy
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Next week fellas! Stay tuned.
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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Awesome! Will it apply to tC1 green header v2?
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Originally Posted by TotalChaos
Awesome! Will it apply to tC1 green header v2?
This is the TC2 section, but yes there will be TC1 promo of similar nature disclosed specifically in that section.
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Next week fellas! Stay tuned.
OHHHH I WANT INNN!!!!! lol I've been wanting a green header for awhile now. Hope its a really good price!!



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