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Old 04-07-2009, 12:56 PM
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So my wifes XB (2006, mt, less than 40k miles) has had the CEL come on over the past week. I checked the codes, and reset the ECU, but about every 3 days, it comes back on. I had the codes pulled at an AutoZone, and its kinda vague. I was hoping you guys could help me out. The code sheet that was printed out reads:

BBEvaporative emission control system pressure leak
BBdetected - small leak
Probable Cause
bb1 - Faulty Fuel Cap
bb2 - Evap line leakage
bb3 - Pump Module Failure
bb4 - Canister Faulty


The car runs fine, no changes in idle, performance, or fuel economy.
After resetting, the CEL will come back on after 3 days.
I checked the gas cap to make sure it was on properly.

So here's my questions:

For those of you who have thrown this code before, what was the end cause of it?
Out of the probable causes listed, I can pretty much rule out the gas cap or the pump, because I checked the cap, and the car is obviously getting enough fuel to run properly. So where is the "canister" and how do I check it?

Also, where are the evap lines?

Thanks,

Matt
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basically it is an evaporative emissions problem, and you need to use a smoke test to see where the leak is coming out of and replace whatever is leaking.
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I have the same thing with my TC. I have heard of faulty charcoal canisters, but I have not done anything to fix it yet. I am looking to find the problem also.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
basically it is an evaporative emissions problem, and you need to use a smoke test to see where the leak is coming out of and replace whatever is leaking.
care to elaborate? what is a smoke test, and how do you go about doing it?
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they apply smoke into the fuel system to see where the smoke comes out at. Then when the smoke is found they replace what is bad.
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it is what it is, you put smoke in the evaporative emissions system and pressurize it to see where the smoke comes out, thus revealing where the leak is.

http://www.denlorstools.com/home/dt1...ester_use.html
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thanks for that.... but where is the canister located? and can you give me a general location of where the evap lines would be?
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that i couldn't tell you, don't own an xb, but search the forum, the tech section or whatever, maybe they have some articles or DIY's for it or something.
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I fixed my wife's Camry a while back that was showing the same codes. Replacing the fuel cap did nothing, and I could find nothing wrong with the hoses for the evap system. So I pulled and tested the vacuum switching valve (VSV) from the intake, it was ok. There's another VSV on the charcoal canister and that one was bad. The dealer wanted a few hundred bucks to replace the whole canister assembly. The valve was $57 or so.
Section 12 of the xB shop manual covers the evap system thoroughly--part location, diagnostics, and testing procedures (you might need a volt/ohm meter and a 12 volt power source). The link to the pdf's of the manual are easy to find on the board. Good luck with it,

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First of all see it it's still covered by emissions warranty. It may also be a subject to a recall or may be there is a TSB regarding this problem. It'snotvery likely that you have a leak in the Evap system, but there were cases when water collected in the canister,or may be a stuck valve. Search on this forum- very recently there was talk about this issue in a different thread somewhere.
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