Just installed the Weapon-R engine dampener thingy!!
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Just installed the Weapon-R engine dampener thingy!!
Bought it off ebay for about $130 shipped.... since nobody had it, I decided to be a guinue pig!
Harder to install than I thought!! That thing was a _____ to put on!! Had to drop the motor on the left side slightly! Anyway herez the result!!
I do feel a little more push, almost like you just put on an intake, especially around the 2000~4000rpm range! Didn't tell my girl friend who drove the car after the install and she asked me, "What did you do to the car again?" I asked why and she answered, "The car feels more powerful!" ..... so ya so i'm pretty sure its not just in my head!
Now the bad part! If you have a 5 speed u don't have to worry but for autos, you WILL notice slightly more vibration on IDLE at D. Its not too intrusive but, you may feel the difference!
Harder to install than I thought!! That thing was a _____ to put on!! Had to drop the motor on the left side slightly! Anyway herez the result!!
I do feel a little more push, almost like you just put on an intake, especially around the 2000~4000rpm range! Didn't tell my girl friend who drove the car after the install and she asked me, "What did you do to the car again?" I asked why and she answered, "The car feels more powerful!" ..... so ya so i'm pretty sure its not just in my head!
Now the bad part! If you have a 5 speed u don't have to worry but for autos, you WILL notice slightly more vibration on IDLE at D. Its not too intrusive but, you may feel the difference!
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Sweet I ordered one, but I only paid $99 shipped to my door. I know the owner of a shop that I use to deal with when I had my Neon and he sells Scion parts now. I'll let everyone know what I think about it when it gets here.
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Its not creating more power, its freeing up more, kind of like flywheels and lightened pullys.
From the factory, the engine mounts are very soft and when you put the power down, the engine will move back and forth, that way vibrations do not go into the cabin. The stiffer engine mount will take the wasted power from the engine moving around and put it down to the wheels.
One of the cons is more vibration in the cabin, but this mod not only helps you put more power down, its also helps out with handling.
My biggest question though is our engines have 3 engine mounts, does this actually replace one of the mounts, or just add a damper to the engine?
From the factory, the engine mounts are very soft and when you put the power down, the engine will move back and forth, that way vibrations do not go into the cabin. The stiffer engine mount will take the wasted power from the engine moving around and put it down to the wheels.
One of the cons is more vibration in the cabin, but this mod not only helps you put more power down, its also helps out with handling.
My biggest question though is our engines have 3 engine mounts, does this actually replace one of the mounts, or just add a damper to the engine?
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Originally Posted by PSyCHo-RaGe
Its not creating more power, its freeing up more, kind of like flywheels and lightened pullys.
From the factory, the engine mounts are very soft and when you put the power down, the engine will move back and forth, that way vibrations do not go into the cabin. The stiffer engine mount will take the wasted power from the engine moving around and put it down to the wheels.
One of the cons is more vibration in the cabin, but this mod not only helps you put more power down, its also helps out with handling.
My biggest question though is our engines have 3 engine mounts, does this actually replace one of the mounts, or just add a damper to the engine?
From the factory, the engine mounts are very soft and when you put the power down, the engine will move back and forth, that way vibrations do not go into the cabin. The stiffer engine mount will take the wasted power from the engine moving around and put it down to the wheels.
One of the cons is more vibration in the cabin, but this mod not only helps you put more power down, its also helps out with handling.
My biggest question though is our engines have 3 engine mounts, does this actually replace one of the mounts, or just add a damper to the engine?
and the dampener is an add on between the block and the passenger side strut tower. it does not replace a motor mount.
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
Originally Posted by PSyCHo-RaGe
Its not creating more power, its freeing up more, kind of like flywheels and lightened pullys.
From the factory, the engine mounts are very soft and when you put the power down, the engine will move back and forth, that way vibrations do not go into the cabin. The stiffer engine mount will take the wasted power from the engine moving around and put it down to the wheels.
One of the cons is more vibration in the cabin, but this mod not only helps you put more power down, its also helps out with handling.
My biggest question though is our engines have 3 engine mounts, does this actually replace one of the mounts, or just add a damper to the engine?
From the factory, the engine mounts are very soft and when you put the power down, the engine will move back and forth, that way vibrations do not go into the cabin. The stiffer engine mount will take the wasted power from the engine moving around and put it down to the wheels.
One of the cons is more vibration in the cabin, but this mod not only helps you put more power down, its also helps out with handling.
My biggest question though is our engines have 3 engine mounts, does this actually replace one of the mounts, or just add a damper to the engine?
and the dampener is an add on between the block and the passenger side strut tower. it does not replace a motor mount.
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been around for a while...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29762
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30067
even up in sponsered sales...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45435
another reason to have a turbo (it won't mount with my SC there)
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29762
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30067
even up in sponsered sales...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45435
another reason to have a turbo (it won't mount with my SC there)
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A lot of P-Car racers swap out their fluid filled rubber engine
mounts for solid aluminum ones for the same effect.
In the old days of big block hot rods, we used a chain bolted
from the top of the engine to the top of the shock tower.
It would hang slack when the engine was at idle, but when
you slammed on the gas you could easilly see the engine
twist and pull itself off the frame. The chain would help
hold it in place (just like this damper does for the Scion).
Now THATS torque!
mounts for solid aluminum ones for the same effect.
In the old days of big block hot rods, we used a chain bolted
from the top of the engine to the top of the shock tower.
It would hang slack when the engine was at idle, but when
you slammed on the gas you could easilly see the engine
twist and pull itself off the frame. The chain would help
hold it in place (just like this damper does for the Scion).
Now THATS torque!
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I'm curious... just how did you "drop the motor slightly" to install this mount? Was that part of the instructions? I've been thinking about this product... How much more vibration do you feel in the cabin? The tC is pretty insulated and padded, so I imagine you could add a lot of vibration and not see a significant change in ride quality.
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the only issue i see with this product is.... its trying to stop the motor from rocking or twisting, right at the factory motor mount...
shouldn't this be as far from the motor mount to maximize the effects???
shouldn't this be as far from the motor mount to maximize the effects???