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StormX02 05-01-2004 10:21 PM

Why is it that TRD doesn't believe in turbochargers?
 
Why is it that TRD only makes superchargers? It's not like Toyota doesn't have any experience with turbos, look at the MR2 and the Supra!

fr130 05-01-2004 10:54 PM

Dont blame TRD Japan, it's more a Toyota Motor Sales, USA/TRD USA issue.

One of the reason why the last Supra died (also the RX-7, etc) was due to high insurance cost. People did not want to pay alot of insurance for turbo power. Now, there' SC and TC rolling around in cars. Insurance Companies are making a boat load of money on SUVs :lol:

StormX02 05-01-2004 10:57 PM

So... turbocharged cars cost more to insure than supercharged?

fr130 05-01-2004 11:02 PM

Although both would cost more over NA, i think turbo's cost more to insure. :? You are basicly putting exhuast back in to the powerplant.

ScionSips 05-01-2004 11:51 PM

they do... they are comming out with one for the XA and XB but unfortunately not the TC...

KAuss 05-02-2004 02:27 AM


Although both would cost more over NA, i think turbo's cost more to insure. You are basicly putting exhuast back in to the powerplant.
I seriously don't think this matters... This has to be absolutely NOT the reason why TRD goes with the supercharger...

IMO this country loves torque... Love it low too... A S/C is way better for that matter... Thats the only logical explaination I can think of... This country grew up with blowers on muscle cars... They're just going back to the roots... (no pun intended)

StormX02 05-02-2004 02:35 AM

Mods in general, especially on a tC, really appeal to the younger "import tuner" crowd though don't they? Shouldn't TRD be catering to us instead of torque loving 50 yr olds?

KAuss 05-02-2004 03:29 AM

Too bad it isn't the 20 year olds that are designing the cars right?

TheBigGuyRy 05-02-2004 05:22 AM

hate to be the needy stupid child.. but what does torque do again.. as opposed to HP... does it give you higher initial accleration?

I know so very little about the actual technical aspect of cars... :?

birdy 05-02-2004 08:17 PM

torque gets you going hp keeps you going

OompaLoompa 05-02-2004 09:06 PM

Maybe its because turbos may require a lot more extras u need to add. With a turbo, ur gonna need to also get headers, intake, and maybe injectors. And also, TRD is a reliable company that produces parts for Toyota cars (obviously) and if some kids start putting 20 psi into their boost controllers and blowing their engines, it might decrease their integrity. They are trying to make plug and play parts that are very safe and reliable. And also, a turbo is a lot harder to set up than a sc and requires more tuning.

OompaLoompa 05-02-2004 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by fr130
Although both would cost more over NA, i think turbo's cost more to insure. :? You are basicly putting exhuast back in to the powerplant.

And I know this doesn't matter, but ur not putting exhaust air back into the engine, the exhaust is fed into the turbo which spools the air brought in from the intake and thats what gets put into the engine.

scionspecialistvegas 05-02-2004 09:58 PM

Doesn't TRD stand for Toyota racing Division? I thought TRD is part of toyota and not a seperate company? Bill

OompaLoompa 05-02-2004 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by scionspecialistvegas
Doesn't TRD stand for Toyota racing Division? I thought TRD is part of toyota and not a seperate company? Bill

Yes it does, I mis-phrased it.

StormX02 05-02-2004 11:12 PM

thought it was Toyota Racing Development?

OompaLoompa 05-03-2004 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by StormX02
thought it was Toyota Racing Development?

Again yes, it does stand for that, a was previously referring to the fact that it is part of Toyota, i didn't pay attention to what he actually said.

rbloedow 05-03-2004 01:24 AM

Superchargers are more reliable, less prone to breaking, and plus they supply the engine with power all the time - you don't have any lag as you're waiting for the turbo to spool up. The question is, why would you want a turbo over a supercharger?

StormX02 05-03-2004 01:27 AM

because of the turbo lag!

i'd rather have a sudden rush of power than a ho-hum delivery of power from zero. and then there's the exhilerating PSS of the blowoff valve that you just can't pass up.

plus superchargers give off this annoying whining noise...

rbloedow 05-03-2004 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by StormX02
because of the turbo lag!

i'd rather have a sudden rush of power than a ho-hum delivery of power from zero. and then there's the exhilerating PSS of the blowoff valve that you just can't pass up.

plus superchargers give off this annoying whining noise...

:roll:

OompaLoompa 05-03-2004 02:05 AM

well most people would say theyd rather have a tubo. With a supercharger, u get a set amount of performance and thats it, all u can do is pulleys. With a turbo, u can set it to like 7 psi for street and then 12 for racing, and if u get upgrades to ur car, u can continue to turn up the psi via your boost controller. For the Tc, i dont think it matters much, but a turbo has more possibilites. The only advantage a Tc would get with a turbo is the availability of a simple boost controller to add a quick 20 horse.


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