DIY-Crankshaft Position Sensor
#3
Why did you replace your sensor? Mine is all gunked up with oil and I have P0012 error.
https://i.imgur.com/pt6KAsV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qvMuWLV.jpg (upside down close up)
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https://i.imgur.com/pt6KAsV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qvMuWLV.jpg (upside down close up)
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 04-22-2021 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Awarded 5 Yr Badge
#5
Here is the part in question. I cleaned it off a bit and got a better picture. Is that the crankshaft position sensor. The harness also doesn't look that good.
Last edited by MR_LUV; 04-22-2021 at 06:47 PM. Reason: Awarded 5 Yr Badge
#6
from Esbe
You are correct that that is the crankshaft Position Sensor. You do not have to drain the oil to replace this.
I did not have a code but I bought the vehicle used with 130K and did not know how hard that little motor was made to work. I did preventative maintenance and among other parts I changed this and the VVT solenoid which could be your code source. The VVT solenoid will cost about $60 at this time, no need to change the oil, and is super easy to change.
-- Reactor - Senior Member says "P0012 means: Camshaft Position "A" - Timing Over-Retarded. This code is not an indication of a bad camshaft position sensor. For that we have P0340"
-- Here's your P0012 code explained and it mentions the VVT (or VCT) solenoid (code P0010) as a probable cause:
https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...by-jay-safford
If you decide to change the VVT solenoid,
-- This guy does an excellent job of showing you how to change the VVT solenoid with lots of pictures:
http://www.clubxb.com/forums/scion-x...ml#post1127425
After you remove the plastic top engine cover, here's my note sheet:
I did not have a code but I bought the vehicle used with 130K and did not know how hard that little motor was made to work. I did preventative maintenance and among other parts I changed this and the VVT solenoid which could be your code source. The VVT solenoid will cost about $60 at this time, no need to change the oil, and is super easy to change.
-- Reactor - Senior Member says "P0012 means: Camshaft Position "A" - Timing Over-Retarded. This code is not an indication of a bad camshaft position sensor. For that we have P0340"
-- Here's your P0012 code explained and it mentions the VVT (or VCT) solenoid (code P0010) as a probable cause:
https://www.yourmechanic.com/article...by-jay-safford
If you decide to change the VVT solenoid,
-- This guy does an excellent job of showing you how to change the VVT solenoid with lots of pictures:
http://www.clubxb.com/forums/scion-x...ml#post1127425
After you remove the plastic top engine cover, here's my note sheet:
Last edited by Esbe; 09-10-2018 at 02:22 PM. Reason: term clarification
#8
I'm sorry but the part costs twice what I mentioned previously. I'll edit the post.
Here's the part I installed a year ago and since then no issues with the part:
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS VVT162 {#1533021010, 1533021011, 1533021020} (Standard Replacement
Here's where I got it from:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/st...actuator,12910
here's a general description of that product:
http://eaccess.smpcorp.com/eCatalogs...16_JTF_VVT.pdf
Here's the part I installed a year ago and since then no issues with the part:
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS VVT162 {#1533021010, 1533021011, 1533021020} (Standard Replacement
Here's where I got it from:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/st...actuator,12910
here's a general description of that product:
http://eaccess.smpcorp.com/eCatalogs...16_JTF_VVT.pdf
#11
I was looking over the posts and if you replaced the OCV (oil control valve) you've replaced the VVT solenoid - same part different names.
In the second video at 4:20 take note of the mention of an 8mm hex bolt filter beneath the Oil Control ValveToyota 15678-21010 Oil Control Valve Filter
https://parts.toyota.com/a/Scion__XB...04.html#15678A
or
and
In the second video at 4:20 take note of the mention of an 8mm hex bolt filter beneath the Oil Control ValveToyota 15678-21010 Oil Control Valve Filter
https://parts.toyota.com/a/Scion__XB...04.html#15678A
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Last edited by Esbe; 09-10-2018 at 04:11 PM.
#12
I was looking over the posts and if you replaced the OCV (oil control valve) you've replaced the VVT solenoid - same part different names.
This will be the worst case for the P0012 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyp5_2i_3cA
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrYbow6O9zI
This will be the worst case for the P0012 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyp5_2i_3cA
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrYbow6O9zI
Otherwise, I have a case open with Toyota about the P0012 but that would require me to go to the dealership for an inspection.
Thanks for sharing the part number. I ordered it already and will hopefully have it replaced later this week.
Do you know anything about the Crankshaft Position Sensor wiring? Should I replace that wire or just clean it off with some Simple Green?
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 04-22-2021 at 06:50 PM. Reason: Awarded 5 Yr Badge
#14
I'm not sure if it's the angle but the OEM crank angle sensor on my picture looks like its connected to a large nut. Did yours look like that?
#15
Okay. The part posted a picture of was not the Crankshaft Position Sensor, and I still don't know what it is. However, I did replace my crankshaft position sensor since I was there. Good thing I did, here's what it looked like:
I cleaned up the other sensor from the outside. I couldn't even get the locking mechanism to budge because the wiring is so snug. I'm still trying to figure out what this is and if it's easily replaceable:
I cleaned up the other sensor from the outside. I couldn't even get the locking mechanism to budge because the wiring is so snug. I'm still trying to figure out what this is and if it's easily replaceable:
Last edited by MR_LUV; 04-22-2021 at 06:52 PM. Reason: Awarded 5 Yr Badge
#16
#17
Looking at RockAuto all of the replacement sensors look like the ones shown above:
Crankshaft Position Sensor
#18
@MileHightC Hi, I got the Camshaft Position Sensor. I was removing the Air filter and the Battery (on Tuesday). I was looking on the engine driver side. Please let me know why there I can not find this part?
Thank you.
Looks like the best part for the job!!
I can not find where to install this in Scion xB 2004!!! Or to use on the key chain?
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Thank you.
Looks like the best part for the job!!
I can not find where to install this in Scion xB 2004!!! Or to use on the key chain?
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Last edited by MR_LUV; 04-22-2021 at 06:55 PM.
#19
@MileHightC Hi, I got the Camshaft Position Sensor. I was removing the Air filter and the Battery (on Tuesday). I was looking on the engine driver side. Please let me know why there I can not find this part?
Thank you.
Looks like the best part for the job!!
I can not find where to install this in Scion xB 2004!!! Or to use on the key chain?
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Thank you.
Looks like the best part for the job!!
I can not find where to install this in Scion xB 2004!!! Or to use on the key chain?
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