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i actually was at a complete stop... im not one of those "idiots" that you are speaking about... i actually was running 9.5 psi and over 200whp in my xB.. that might have caused my tranny 2 blow...
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9.5 psi won't get you over 200hp, sorry the numbers don't work. what set up do you have?
if you were stopped, and shifting between r-1....thats not how it was worded/read. either way, i'm in the same ballpark of hp and it takes it fine. i've seen the internals of this tranny, it is well built for our abuses. could just have been the luck of the draw...doing mass production will let a few irregulars through... hows the new tranny, any issues? |
sorry if i misworded.. but no problems yet with the new tranny... not sure where or how it was put on.. but i did notice a nice crack on top of the transmission if you look down from the engine bay... thanks ZPI RACING =/
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are you sure it is a crack and not a casting mark?
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Hello,
I don't usually post but I'm posting this... for those who is interested in a 6spd into your box.... -Buy a C160 trans off a Corolla AE111 or AE101 ... you can find these dirt cheap because people only buy these clip for the black top 20valves ( 20valve 4A_GE) and basically the trannies sit out in the dirt lot or in the shelves collection dust. I bought mine for a $100 bucks... -Swap your C56 Bell Housing over to the C160 ... it should mate together like my C150 together because these are all C-Series trans... -people ask about axles... your stock axles are fine just as long you upgrade to a Corolla ZZE110 chasis axles seals... -cutting is required... this is something you cant go around... but from what I figure... you can do this swap for less than the cost of a TRD gear set... If you know the right people or do your own work.... I hope this helps... ____________ |
Bookmarked!!!
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According to you could I be installed the C54 transmission in place of C56?
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Hey everyone... I know this thread is super-old, but I stumbled upon it called my friend at a local Toyota/Scion dealer. The part numbers & retail prices for the '03+ Corolla 5th gear swap are as follows... hope this benefits more people on here & not just me. :P
5th gear drive sprocket # 33036-1210 -$155.09 5th gear driven sprocket # 33428-12100 -$138.55 xB transaxle seal kit (mostly Orange RTV but this is the rest) #04331-02060 -$34.21 |
2006xbbop, i hope it goes well for you. i just learned to live with it and moved on. still, a taller fifth would be nice...
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Nice info. I'll consider the Corolla 5th gear option when I next replace my clutch.
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Did someone already did the fifth gear swap from Corolla 03 tranny fifth gear? I'll like to know if it easy bolt on and it is working perfect without any issue.
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Successful 5th gear swap
Originally Posted by pabli999
(Post 3889831)
did someone already did the fifth gear swap from corolla 03 trani fifth gear? I'll like to know if it easy bolt on and it is working perfect without any issue.
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Originally Posted by sikbrik
(Post 1840167)
copy this and import it into Excel as space delimited text and it will make more sense. basically, it's a few options and a few non-options, just for comparison. The '03 + Corolla 5th gives you a really nice combo and lower cruising RPM than the 6-spd swap WITHOUT the cutting.
Better acceleration than the Echo final drive, and it swaps right in. Part #'s coming next if I don't get flamed like crazy again by people who swear that the Echo final is the only way to go. xA Corolla (03-06) xA - Corolla 5th xA - Corolla final drive xA: Corolla 5th & final 00-05 celica xA: Corolla final - Celica 4th xA with C60/C160 1st 3.54 3.166 3.54 3.54 3.54 3.166 3.54 3.166 2nd 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 1.904 2.05 3rd 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.31 1.392 1.31 1.481 4th 0.969 0.885 0.969 0.969 0.969 1.031 1.031 1.166 5th 0.815 0.725 0.725 0.815 0.725 0.815 0.815 0.916 6th - - - - - - - 0.725 final 4.31 3.94 4.31 3.94 3.94 4.31 3.94 4.529 overall>> 1st 15.2574 12.47404 15.2574 13.9476 13.9476 13.64546 13.9476 14.338814 2nd 8.20624 7.50176 8.20624 7.50176 7.50176 8.20624 7.50176 9.28445 3rd 5.6461 5.1614 5.6461 5.1614 5.1614 5.99952 5.1614 6.707449 4th 4.17639 3.4869 4.17639 3.81786 3.81786 4.44361 4.06214 5.280814 5th 3.51265 2.8565 3.12475 3.2111 2.8565 3.51265 3.2111 4.148564 6th - - - - - - - 3.283525 Tire Size 185/60/15 185/65/15 185/60/15 185/60/15 185/60/15 195/60/15 185/60/15 185/60/15 Tire Dia. 23.74 24.47 23.74 23.74 23.74 24.21 23.74 23.74 RPM @ 80 in 5th (mph x drive ratio x 336) / tire diameter = rpm 3977 3138 3538 3636 3234 3900 3636 3718 RPM @ 65 in 5th 3232 2550 2875 2954 2628 3169 2954 3021 Theroetical top speed @ 6500 rpm in top gear. 127 166 142 139 156 133 139 140 _____________ |
Originally Posted by Ehlenjme
(Post 4282606)
Thank you for all this info. I just completed this swap with 03 Corolla and it works great. I’m hoping for improved gas mileage, but only time will tell. Your numbers and all the info on this thread was invaluable to making the swap possible.
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Corolla 5th gear swap
Originally Posted by Ehlenjme
(Post 4282605)
I know this was a long time ago, but I just completed swapping 5th gear for 03 Corolla. Everything fits perfectly and I have about 200 miles on it so far. I don’t know about long term benefits yet, but I have noticed downshifting a little more on inclines. If anyone is still interested in doing this let me know. I have all the part numbers. It cost about $1000 including labor and a new clutch while I was in there.
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Parts List
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Main needed parts You will need 5th gear drive and driven, needle roller bearing, output shaft nut. 03 Corolla 5th Gear (Drive) - 33036-12120 03 Corolla 5th Gear (Driven) - 33428-12060 (I ended up with 33428-12100 as an updated part number) Needle Roller Bearing - 90364-24006 Output Shaft Nut - 90179-18005 Toyota Transmission Seal 1281 (FIPG) - 00295-01281 |
1st Gen Scion xB 5th gear..
Originally Posted by Ehlenjme
(Post 4293397)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sci...e9eb62e474.png
Main needed parts You will need 5th gear drive and driven, needle roller bearing, output shaft nut. 03 Corolla 5th Gear (Drive) - 33036-12120 03 Corolla 5th Gear (Driven) - 33428-12060 (I ended up with 33428-12100 as an updated part number) Needle Roller Bearing - 90364-24006 Output Shaft Nut - 90179-18005 Toyota Transmission Seal 1281 (FIPG) - 00295-01281 Once I shift into 5th gear I have high rpm. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sci...cbddfcce16.jpg When I'm in 5th gear going about 80 and my rpm are @4000. When I got the car I thought the clutch was going out so I replaced it and got the same result. So I look it up online and everyone is talking about this problem. Does anyone have proof of this problem being fixed like a YouTube video or something? ________ |
what you see is normal
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Proof of gear swap RPM improvement
Originally Posted by Civitak91
(Post 4294057)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sci...82efbbab62.jpg
Once I shift into 5th gear I have high rpm. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sci...cbddfcce16.jpg When I'm in 5th gear going about 80 and my rpm are @4000. When I got the car I thought the clutch was going out so I replaced it and got the same result. So I look it up online and everyone is talking about this problem. Does anyone have proof of this problem being fixed like a YouTube video or something? ________ https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sci...098177404.jpeg |
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