I'm wanting to get my xB turbocharged
02-10-2009, 06:42 AM
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Do you know what a turbo charger is? Of course they get hot, grab your exhaust pipe sometime.
Cold air intake, that was just too good. Research turbo chargers and learn how they work and you'll know the intake
has nothing to do with the heat.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo2.htm
You do know what you're wanting is going to cost a lot right? Not only do you have to buy a kit, you're going to have to pay someone to put it on for you, plus it's going to need to be tuned.
Cold air intake, that was just too good. Research turbo chargers and learn how they work and you'll know the intake
has nothing to do with the heat.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo2.htm
You do know what you're wanting is going to cost a lot right? Not only do you have to buy a kit, you're going to have to pay someone to put it on for you, plus it's going to need to be tuned.
02-10-2009, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mb2008
Do you know what a turbo charger is? Of course they get hot, grab your exhaust pipe sometime.
Cold air intake, that was just too good. Research turbo chargers and learn how they work and you'll know the intake
has nothing to do with the heat.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo2.htm
You do know what you're wanting is going to cost a lot right? Not only do you have to buy a kit, you're going to have to pay someone to put it on for you, plus it's going to need to be tuned.
Cold air intake, that was just too good. Research turbo chargers and learn how they work and you'll know the intake
has nothing to do with the heat.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo2.htm
You do know what you're wanting is going to cost a lot right? Not only do you have to buy a kit, you're going to have to pay someone to put it on for you, plus it's going to need to be tuned.
i couldnt remember which it was
02-10-2009, 08:18 AM
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read the how it works....
an intercooler is required if you want to turbocharge your car....you seem to be in a little over your head....why not focus on making decent power non-boosted. keep it NA and learn as much as you can about engine operations before you dive into something like this.
an intercooler is required if you want to turbocharge your car....you seem to be in a little over your head....why not focus on making decent power non-boosted. keep it NA and learn as much as you can about engine operations before you dive into something like this.
02-10-2009, 09:50 AM
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It couldn't have been an intake. It's not as simple as just bolting on some different pipes. From what I've seen on here, the Blitz supercharger is more reliable than a turbo anyway.
As for the cost, in this post the person gave an estimated price list for a turbo if you haven't seen it. https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=244835
Besides, if you even got one put on, you might end up only hurting yourself... Everyone does dumb things when they start driving. We all have stories.
As for the cost, in this post the person gave an estimated price list for a turbo if you haven't seen it. https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=244835
Besides, if you even got one put on, you might end up only hurting yourself... Everyone does dumb things when they start driving. We all have stories.
02-10-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mb2008
It couldn't have been an intake. It's not as simple as just bolting on some different pipes. From what I've seen on here, the Blitz supercharger is more reliable than a turbo anyway.
As for the cost, in this post the person gave an estimated price list for a turbo if you haven't seen it. https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=244835
Besides, if you even got one put on, you might end up only hurting yourself... Everyone does dumb things when they start driving. We all have stories.
As for the cost, in this post the person gave an estimated price list for a turbo if you haven't seen it. https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=244835
Besides, if you even got one put on, you might end up only hurting yourself... Everyone does dumb things when they start driving. We all have stories.
and i was reading on wikipedia about turbos and im trying to decide if its actually worth it
there seems to be a lot of maintenance to be had
and a lot more stuff to buy if i want things to run smoothly
that other guy said something about increasing my power without boost
how is that done?
02-10-2009, 08:38 PM
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extremely basic tuning without boost is eliminating restrictions in air flow. i.e. intake/header/manifold/full catback exhaust.....however, even when this has been done, to get the full potential out of your car with these upgrades, reflashing your ecu is important in allowing your car to fully accept the gains of power.
again...that's an extremely basic manner of tuning. important things that people don't pay attention to are tires,. doesn't increase power like most people want, but it helps you keep it on the ground (but..with the i.h.m.e. set up you wont have much trouble anyway)
try focusing on those things for now
again...that's an extremely basic manner of tuning. important things that people don't pay attention to are tires,. doesn't increase power like most people want, but it helps you keep it on the ground (but..with the i.h.m.e. set up you wont have much trouble anyway)
try focusing on those things for now
02-10-2009, 09:04 PM
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Wow, just wow, not sure where to even begin.
Glad you're asking questions first before just running out and trying something.
For natural-aspirated power gains, the 1NZ-FE will not be able to make significant gains in anywhere near a cost effective manner. You can do a standard intake (short ram is fine), header (4-2-1 I prefer to 4-1 because it has more low-end power) and a cat-back exhaust, 2 1/4" to 2 1/2". This will most likely give 8-12 HP combined for around $800-$1,000. Weapon-R is now offering an intake manifold, but it runs another $600.
There is NO reflash available on our ECU. If you want a leaner tune, you'll have to get a piggyback Greddy eManage, AEM or standalone. Really not worth it without a turbo.
For a turbo, the prices and setup quoted in the other thread may as well be for racing, everything is overengineered. The bare minimum to get by with a safe tune on a stock block (93 octane gas) would be:
- Greddy turbo ($2,507 includes eManage blue)
- AEM UEGO wideband O2 sensor ($260)
- HKS SSQV or Turbo XS blow off valve ($180)
- Greddy turbo timer ($96)
- boost gauge ($50)
- colder spark plugs ($5)
Total about $3100.
All prices are from PTuning since they are an official Greddy dealer and don't shaft you on prices. You may be able to find cheaper on eBay or online but may not have a warranty on the turbo if it arrives broke.
That's it! You'll only make about 114 WHP on an automatic, but that's up from 82 WHP, so it's a noticeable gain. It's honestly not that hard to install, but follow directions and get a proper tune. if you have a 2006, you'll also need a wire harness from Boomslang, the Greddy stock one only works with the 04-05.
There isn't a whole lot of maintanance to do. Switch to synthetic oil, check the turbo feed line to make sure it doesn't leak and watch your O2 and boost gauges to make sure the tune doesn't go lean or the wastegate doesn't fail and overboost. If your exhaust starts putting out blue smoke, the turbo seals are going and oil is leaking in as well. If the install was not done properly however or the part came in bad, there will be other problems from vacuum leaks to ECU malfunction, so a shop close by helps to diagnose problems. Once it's running, it should be fine.
If you want more power, then you'll need to start adding an intercooler, larger injectors, more gauges, eManage ultimate, and possibly an engine build.
Glad you're asking questions first before just running out and trying something.
For natural-aspirated power gains, the 1NZ-FE will not be able to make significant gains in anywhere near a cost effective manner. You can do a standard intake (short ram is fine), header (4-2-1 I prefer to 4-1 because it has more low-end power) and a cat-back exhaust, 2 1/4" to 2 1/2". This will most likely give 8-12 HP combined for around $800-$1,000. Weapon-R is now offering an intake manifold, but it runs another $600.
There is NO reflash available on our ECU. If you want a leaner tune, you'll have to get a piggyback Greddy eManage, AEM or standalone. Really not worth it without a turbo.
For a turbo, the prices and setup quoted in the other thread may as well be for racing, everything is overengineered. The bare minimum to get by with a safe tune on a stock block (93 octane gas) would be:
- Greddy turbo ($2,507 includes eManage blue)
- AEM UEGO wideband O2 sensor ($260)
- HKS SSQV or Turbo XS blow off valve ($180)
- Greddy turbo timer ($96)
- boost gauge ($50)
- colder spark plugs ($5)
Total about $3100.
All prices are from PTuning since they are an official Greddy dealer and don't shaft you on prices. You may be able to find cheaper on eBay or online but may not have a warranty on the turbo if it arrives broke.
That's it! You'll only make about 114 WHP on an automatic, but that's up from 82 WHP, so it's a noticeable gain. It's honestly not that hard to install, but follow directions and get a proper tune. if you have a 2006, you'll also need a wire harness from Boomslang, the Greddy stock one only works with the 04-05.
There isn't a whole lot of maintanance to do. Switch to synthetic oil, check the turbo feed line to make sure it doesn't leak and watch your O2 and boost gauges to make sure the tune doesn't go lean or the wastegate doesn't fail and overboost. If your exhaust starts putting out blue smoke, the turbo seals are going and oil is leaking in as well. If the install was not done properly however or the part came in bad, there will be other problems from vacuum leaks to ECU malfunction, so a shop close by helps to diagnose problems. Once it's running, it should be fine.
If you want more power, then you'll need to start adding an intercooler, larger injectors, more gauges, eManage ultimate, and possibly an engine build.
02-10-2009, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vettereddie
There is NO reflash available on our ECU. If you want a leaner tune, you'll have to get a piggyback Greddy eManage, AEM or standalone. Really not worth it without a turbo.
02-10-2009, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ikonXone
he has 4 posts and has been on scionlife for a whole 1 day. he is not going to turbo his xb.
02-10-2009, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vettereddie
Wow, just wow, not sure where to even begin.
Glad you're asking questions first before just running out and trying something.
For natural-aspirated power gains, the 1NZ-FE will not be able to make significant gains in anywhere near a cost effective manner. You can do a standard intake (short ram is fine), header (4-2-1 I prefer to 4-1 because it has more low-end power) and a cat-back exhaust, 2 1/4" to 2 1/2". This will most likely give 8-12 HP combined for around $800-$1,000. Weapon-R is now offering an intake manifold, but it runs another $600.
There is NO reflash available on our ECU. If you want a leaner tune, you'll have to get a piggyback Greddy eManage, AEM or standalone. Really not worth it without a turbo.
For a turbo, the prices and setup quoted in the other thread may as well be for racing, everything is overengineered. The bare minimum to get by with a safe tune on a stock block (93 octane gas) would be:
- Greddy turbo ($2,507 includes eManage blue)
- AEM UEGO wideband O2 sensor ($260)
- HKS SSQV or Turbo XS blow off valve ($180)
- Greddy turbo timer ($96)
- boost gauge ($50)
- colder spark plugs ($5)
Total about $3100.
All prices are from PTuning since they are an official Greddy dealer and don't shaft you on prices. You may be able to find cheaper on eBay or online but may not have a warranty on the turbo if it arrives broke.
That's it! You'll only make about 114 WHP on an automatic, but that's up from 82 WHP, so it's a noticeable gain. It's honestly not that hard to install, but follow directions and get a proper tune. if you have a 2006, you'll also need a wire harness from Boomslang, the Greddy stock one only works with the 04-05.
There isn't a whole lot of maintanance to do. Switch to synthetic oil, check the turbo feed line to make sure it doesn't leak and watch your O2 and boost gauges to make sure the tune doesn't go lean or the wastegate doesn't fail and overboost. If your exhaust starts putting out blue smoke, the turbo seals are going and oil is leaking in as well. If the install was not done properly however or the part came in bad, there will be other problems from vacuum leaks to ECU malfunction, so a shop close by helps to diagnose problems. Once it's running, it should be fine.
If you want more power, then you'll need to start adding an intercooler, larger injectors, more gauges, eManage ultimate, and possibly an engine build.
Glad you're asking questions first before just running out and trying something.
For natural-aspirated power gains, the 1NZ-FE will not be able to make significant gains in anywhere near a cost effective manner. You can do a standard intake (short ram is fine), header (4-2-1 I prefer to 4-1 because it has more low-end power) and a cat-back exhaust, 2 1/4" to 2 1/2". This will most likely give 8-12 HP combined for around $800-$1,000. Weapon-R is now offering an intake manifold, but it runs another $600.
There is NO reflash available on our ECU. If you want a leaner tune, you'll have to get a piggyback Greddy eManage, AEM or standalone. Really not worth it without a turbo.
For a turbo, the prices and setup quoted in the other thread may as well be for racing, everything is overengineered. The bare minimum to get by with a safe tune on a stock block (93 octane gas) would be:
- Greddy turbo ($2,507 includes eManage blue)
- AEM UEGO wideband O2 sensor ($260)
- HKS SSQV or Turbo XS blow off valve ($180)
- Greddy turbo timer ($96)
- boost gauge ($50)
- colder spark plugs ($5)
Total about $3100.
All prices are from PTuning since they are an official Greddy dealer and don't shaft you on prices. You may be able to find cheaper on eBay or online but may not have a warranty on the turbo if it arrives broke.
That's it! You'll only make about 114 WHP on an automatic, but that's up from 82 WHP, so it's a noticeable gain. It's honestly not that hard to install, but follow directions and get a proper tune. if you have a 2006, you'll also need a wire harness from Boomslang, the Greddy stock one only works with the 04-05.
There isn't a whole lot of maintanance to do. Switch to synthetic oil, check the turbo feed line to make sure it doesn't leak and watch your O2 and boost gauges to make sure the tune doesn't go lean or the wastegate doesn't fail and overboost. If your exhaust starts putting out blue smoke, the turbo seals are going and oil is leaking in as well. If the install was not done properly however or the part came in bad, there will be other problems from vacuum leaks to ECU malfunction, so a shop close by helps to diagnose problems. Once it's running, it should be fine.
If you want more power, then you'll need to start adding an intercooler, larger injectors, more gauges, eManage ultimate, and possibly an engine build.
like, would i need a paypal or mastercard to purchase them, or would i be able to find them at my local parts dealer?
02-10-2009, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OakToddler
Before thinking TURBO, just get a nice intake. header, pulley, lighter wheels, exhaust, etc.
That will keep you happy for a while and keep you busy too.
That will keep you happy for a while and keep you busy too.
02-10-2009, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OakToddler
OK, now I really stand by what I just wrote. 
DO SOME RESEARCH on this site first.
GO ON EBAY.
ONLY GET BRAND NAMES>>>>SHOP AROUND!
DO SOME RESEARCH on this site first.
GO ON EBAY.
ONLY GET BRAND NAMES>>>>SHOP AROUND!
so the only way i could be able to purchase anything is in person