Thanks for the reply.
The OE harness is fixed, the car runs fine with it. The Greddy tech says the car won't run with the OE, it does. Not to wory, when I was in the Army I was direct support for communications, worked on way more complicated stuff than this. The problem now is that possibly the e-manage is damaged. I wired exactly as you posted & it matches the Greddy pin out. It's like the order is wrong, it misses on 2 cylinders. If the harness is plugged into itself, it should mirror on the other side & it does.
I must have missed something........

 

it was stated that the greddy s/c doesnt have adjustable boost that it is set... what psi does it have? i was told to stay under 7psi to use all stock injectors and fuel pump with an 05 xb. also what were the final dyno numbers for the turbo with the light weight pulley and cai? where is the best place/price to get one. thanks

 

There is no roots type SC that has adjustable boost, that I know of. The drive pulley can be changed to bump the boost.
You can use stock everything with an 05, even the ECU ( allbeit lean ). I would recomend OE TC injectors for the shorter duty cycle & headroom.

 

so what psi boost do you get from the greddy s/c

 

Around 8 at WOT

 

and the stock fuel pump can keep up with all this?

 

Yup. No problem.

 

Steve's correct. Puts out around 6 psi under partial load, 8 psi max under WOT. I've dyno'd with stock injectors, TRD CAI, Perrin crank pulley (stock diameter), strup header and 2 1/4" exhaust. HP maxes at 113.6 WHP, and the limiting factor is the injectors. Duty cycle on them is running at 100% at 5,000 RPM, rule of thumb is 80% a redline. AFR goes above 14 at high RPM, not a good place to be if you want to race. Incidentally enough, the HKS system maxes at 114 as well, so I think that's a hard limit with stock fuel delivery.

I've ordered a set of tC injectors and have a Perrin rail ready to go in. I'll e re-dynoing at Promotion tuning in Fredericksburg after install, I'll let you know what the gain are.

 

Vettereddie, the butt dyno says the injectors work. They will be a pleasent suprise. I don't think there's much power but it sure responds better. You may see some improvment, driveablity, in the middle ( on the dyno ). If possible I'd love to see a before & after.......
By the way the OE fuel pump will deliver plenty of fuel. voluum is not a problem - pressure????? I'm not thinking a different pump.... Yet.
How are you doing with the SC, BBV - the other thread???

 

Yeah, didn't order a bigger fuel pump. After digging around on here decided to keep that stock and save the $100. BPV is still sticking on occasion, usually after 2+ hours of highway driving in August. Handling it with weekly oiling and exercising of the valve wher the arm goes into the intake throttle body, haven't opened it up yet for adjustment, waiting until when I put on the injectors. Were you able to change yours without pulling the charger away from the block?

 

Were you able to change yours without pulling the charger away from the block?

Yes. You just need to undo a couple of fastners holding the hard line.

Dinan has a power mod for the Mini that uses a, higher presure than OE, pump to get, basicly the same result as larger injectors - it works if you like the sound of a loud FP. For some software apps, mostly stand alone ECUs & pigs with good DMMs, higher presure along with big injectors work very well. In fact, had I not gotten the Greddy piggy wired for my x partners car, I would have used the pump w/injectors & a wide band.

 

[quote="vettereddie"]Steve's correct. Puts out around 6 psi under partial load, 8 psi max under WOT. I've dyno'd with stock injectors, TRD CAI, Perrin crank pulley (stock diameter), strup header and 2 1/4" exhaust. HP maxes at 113.6 WHP, and the limiting factor is the injectors. quote]

im sorry i love my box but 2500.00 just to get to 114 whp ...well i am just not that committed to it. man now i dont know what to do .

 

bighvyxb, 2500 is a big hit for sure. Worth it? I'd say, yes, just for the driveability. The Blitz was a big suprise & the Greddy? Well I put 2 on 2 different cars, 1 auto, 1 manual..... The PE is next, got to try 1.
The only way to know what FI is worth, on the XB, is to drive 1..... with more than 1 person, or 3.....
As far as dynos go, they are tools of the trade. The only tool to find the improvement % or not. To see what kind of improvement 114 means, you would need to see the before delta. There are too many variables from day to day to have reliable numeric data, the %, on the other hand, is more consistant when using a same day delta. Example - I'v seen 125 at the wheels on day "X" & 109 on day "Y" from the same car, same dyno, fuel & oil. If day "Y" is used forthe next delta & a component is added or deleted, that data can be used for the next dyno delta. The % should be very close even if the numbers arn't.
I'm way too old to rely on dyno numbers, they're good for dyno racers. 1320 is where all the work realy counts...... AutoX & a track day would work!

 

so it says 2 1/4 exhaust.. is there any loss using stock exhaust to the axle. i have a precision muffler (auto) magnaflow muffler and was planing to get a header, is not having the bigger exhaust going to take it down on hp? also what kind of header do you get with a s/c..4-1 or 4-2-1. i was going to get the 4-2-1 for bottom end but i heard with the s/c you get better bottom end but it lacks on high end with stock injectors? and moving to injectors, i know you can use stock but how much more do you get with tc injectors (hp) and how much is a set? sorry for all the questions but there is no support around my area.

 

More TQ 4-2-1. I'd rather a good 4-1 with a long primary 31+"@1 1/2.... The DC is the longest bolt on, direct fit, I've seen. There are a couple of people here that like the DC, of coarse that's what they have.......
The stocker is OK, not ideal or optimal but OK. A cat back would be benificial but by how much, mid to upper, me thinks.
The TC injectors = more head room. No big numbers but much smoother power all the way up. EGT is better, safer AF, around 12.6 ( just a guess based on EGT ). Unless you race, haul people or run the car med to real hard all the time, the OE will work. In other words, the OE would work just fine for my wife.
Go http://www.deatschwerks.com/catalog/...alculators.php . You can see what you need.

 

Sumter is not too far from a bunch of us up here.....

 

you lost me sorry "more head room"?? EGT??? AF??? i do haul people and i do run hard all the time.

 

Sumter is not too far from a bunch of us up here.....

where are you guys at? anyone have a supercharger up there?

 

Charlotte area..not any more we had one PE one here and he was one of the first on SL with one...and he put down some great numbers....all of us have lots of mods though

 

EGT = Exhaust gas temp
AF = Air Fuel
More headroom = larger capacity for now & later mods - not just injectors

Sciond, was there ever a review about the PE on SL? And did you get to ride or drive the car?