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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Ok. I sorta wanted to create a thread dedicated to the available coilovers and their specs.

I've sorted them in alphabetical order, and listed from minimum drop to max drop. Obviously there are more than what's listed and this is all very basic info, but I'm hoping to be able to fill in the blanks with time. (for example, there are no references to dampening adjustments yet etc.) If anyone has any info on the coilovers listed or even unlisted for that matter, post what you know! Here's what I have so far:



Blitz

Front = 1.1 - 2.3
Rear = 0.1 - 1.7

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Buddy Club

Front = 0.3 - 1.9
Rear = 0 - 1.7

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Cusco Vacanza

Front = 2.3 - 3.9
Rear = 2.3 - 3.3

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Erfolgkei

Front = 1.1 - 1.9
Rear = 1.1 - 1.9

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Fabulous

Front = 0.38 - 2.36
Rear = 1.18 - 2.36

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HKS ???


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JCool Promortion (Yes, promortion)

Front = 2.36 - 6.29
Rear = 2.36 - 2.75

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JIC Magic FLT-A2

Front = 0.5 - 2.1
Rear = 0.5 - 2.1

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JIC Magic SF-1

Front = 0.5 - 2.1
Rear = 0.5 - 2.1

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RS*R

Front = 0.7 - 3.3
Rear = 0 - 1.9


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Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC

Front = 0.2 - 2.5
Rear = 0.2 - 1.5

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Tein Wagon

Front = 0.6 - 2.3
Rear = 0.4 - 1.3

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Vacanza Wagon

Front = 2.3 - 3.7
Rear = 1.8 - 2.3

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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whats the difference between the Cusco Vacanza set and the Vacanza wagon set up beside how much both can be dropped
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HotBox
whats the difference between the Cusco Vacanza set and the Vacanza wagon set up beside how much both can be dropped
i am not exactly sure, but it could be how many ways it can be adjusted and/or the spring rate.
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Opr8r



JCool Promortion (Yes, promortion)

Front = .... 6.29


Old Jan 17, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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for a comfortable ride but an overall good sense of balance what would i want the springs to be semi stiff, stiff, soft or what?
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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These have to be the best for most:

Ground Control coilover "kit"

0-2.8" all around!

Yes, they are not full coilovers but who really needs that for a car like ours? If you know Ground Control, you must know they have a good reputation for making high quality parts. I know the $1400 sets are good but if you don't need all those bells and whistles(most of us) these are without a doubt the best at just over $400. After intensive testing the finished result is ready and is being manufactured as we *speak*. I have a pair of the first sets that have been released and now only need one, so send me a PM if your interested in buying a kit or simply want to check out the quality. I'm in Orange County, CA...
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:42 AM
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i thought tanabe had that air assisted setup(airbag)
for the ncp31? i can be wrong... i believe that thing was almost 4" drop in front

update: its called the AIR COBRA...
and i dont think they make it for ncp31.. sorry for brining that up =X
Old Jan 18, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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So Ground Control is still the best option for most of us at around $400
Old Jan 20, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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Hey UrbanDrum, easy on the sales pitch. If you want to sell something, put it in the classifieds.

Anyway, Opr8r, some of the numbers are off. Tein lists the Wagons at -2.5F and -1.7R and the Vacanzas are -3.16F and either -2.14R or -3.3R.
Old Jan 21, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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Haven't heard of Ground Control. Anybody have any info, website, etc???
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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www.Ground-Control.com

They don't have Scion info on the site yet since the finished product is so new.
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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THANKS, UrbanDrum!
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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ground control is a great company and knows what they are doing.


other factors to consider in coilovers -

do they come with camber plates? (some do)
what spring rages? linear or progressive?
are the shocks adjustable? in what range?
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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bump!
Old Apr 4, 2005 | 01:25 AM
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err Ground control coilovers are basically sleeve-type coilovers that use specific eibach race springs.

The good point of it is that Ground-Control will match the springs as best they can to your specs.

However, you should do some searches for threads... I believe there was a thread or so a while back about the spring popping out or something.

considering for a few hundred more you can get tein basics (under 700) or tanabe sustec type-2s...

and considering depending on the drop you will most likely spend a couple hundred to get new shocks... ground-control isn't necessarily the best option...

the cheaper full coilover sets (tein basics... etc) do not have adjustable dampers... the more expensive ones do $1000+ ones
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We are custom building Endless/Zeal B6 coils for me and will become production models. I might start another thread detailing the technical differences between these coilover brands. Since purchasing a xA in the past two weeks and already modding it with Blitz Coils I have started to study the attributes of available coils quite extensively. Shoot suspension is what we do for a living.

Some Basics things to look at:

What's included with the kit to determine it's value and the quality of the materials used to produce the kit.

1. Camber plates and rear upper mounts
2. Independent preload and ride height adjustment
3. damping adjustability front and rear
4. Ability to custom build according to your driving needs, race or street or VIP SLAM show.
5. Monotube or Twin Tube
6. Preassembled?
7. Linear or Progressive springs
8. Servicability in US, not just replacement but custom abilities for valving in US.

While many of these won't be important to a lot of ya I thought I'd detail the majority of attributes, other than lowering specs, to look into when purchasing coilovers.

I'll mention what I have right now:

Blitz Coils,

No uppermounts
No damping adj in front, includes helper spring
Damping adj in rear

Pretty basic setup. It's largest advantage is the "Euro way of using progressive springs on a coilover." I gotta get some time to post pics of it and such.

Gimme a couple days.

Rishie
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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I would only suggest GC's if you have short stroke dampers. The issues we've had with GC's in the past is the maintenace involved. Some of the machined aluminum parts begin to wear down after time. The sleeve type kits also tend to make noise and will not ride as good as an integrated system.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Endless4LIFE
I would only suggest GC's if you have short stroke dampers. The issues we've had with GC's in the past is the maintenace involved. Some of the machined aluminum parts begin to wear down after time. The sleeve type kits also tend to make noise and will not ride as good as an integrated system.
damn straight ....



on to another note damn those cusco vacanza's seem way slick anyone know the average price for those babies?
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 03:27 AM
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would love to see a thread with all the coilover stats
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Endless4LIFE
I gotta get some time to post pics of it and such.

Gimme a couple days.

Rishie

here's a pic to post for Rishie..his xA with the Blitz coils..





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