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scionlife Jul 10, 2003 04:29 AM

Buyers Guide: Scion xA/xB Wheels
 
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WHEEL FITMENT INFORMATION
It is assumed that these figures will work on both the xA and the xB, but most are from xB owner's personal comments.

WHEEL SIZE . . OFFSET RANGE . . TIRE SIZES . . . COMMENTS

19x8.0 . . . . . . . 35 (Front)25(Rear)215/35/19 . . . . Rubs Slightly XB(shim kit)DenZinz
19x8.0 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . Rubs under hard cornering
19x7.5 . . . . . . . 45 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . Rear needs 5mm spacer: DGTLLVR
19x7.5 . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . No rubbing, rear mud flap trimmed: gregp909
19x7.0 . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-19 . . . . Rolled fenders & hammered wheelwell: matchbox

18x7.0 . . . . . . . 28-32 . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-18 . . . .foxSCION "no rubbing"
18x7.0 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 235/35-18 . . . .K4kas no rubbing xB
18x7.5 . . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-18 . . . .Front tire rubs at full lock
18x7.5 . . . . . . . 35-42 . . . . . . . . . . 215/35-18 . . . .Silkywilson et42
18x7.5 . . . . . . . 42(Front)(35)Rear 225/35-18 . . . .Oneslowxa 2"drop tanabe sustec pro
18x8.0 . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225/35-18
18x8.5 . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225/35-18
18x9.0 . . . . . . . 31 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225/40-18 . . . .rampagesd

17X7.0 . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/40-17 . . . .quadoptix xB
17x7.0 . . . . . . . 28-42 . . . . . . . . . . 205/40-17
17x7.0 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . .TheScionicMan
17x7.0 . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/45-17 . . . . xB stock
17x7.5 . . . . . . . 30-40 . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . .
17x7.5 . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . .3mm Spacers CBSIMONSEZ xB
17x7.5 . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . .Stock xA Leinad
17x8.5 . . . . . . . 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . Front doesn't rub: Oper8r
17x9.0 . . . . . . . 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . Rear rollled fenders: Oper8r

16x7.0 . . . . . . . 33 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/55-16 . . . . Front rubs slightly in front: oj411
16x7.0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/55-16 . . . . No rubs: The Zeeness
16X7.0 . . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 205/45-16 . . . . Stock xB: Pushytop
16x7.0 . . . . . . . 25-35 . . . . . . . . . . 205/40-16
16x7.5 . . . . . . . 38-40 . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-16


15x6.5 . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 185/60R15 or 185/65R15 (xB and bB stock sizes)
15x7.0 . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 185/60-15 . . . . Stock Size xB
15x8.0 . . . . . . 18(Rear)23(Front) 205/60/15 2" ground control Minsk99 xB

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MISC INFORMATION

Scion xA and Scion xB Specifications:

Bolt Pattern
4x100

Center Bore
54.1mm

Nut Size
M12x1.5


Stock Wheels/Tires
15"x6" +38 offset / 185/60R15 xB 185/60R15 xA 185/65R15 bB
37 lbs per wheel & tire
Alloy wheel: 16.7 lbs

Other Vehicles With Interchangable Wheels
Toyota Celica (1988-1989)
Toyota Corolla (1988-2001)
Toyota Corolla Wagon (1988-1996)
Toyota Echo
Toyota MR2 (1986-1990)
Toyota Paseo
Toyota Tercel (1989-1998)
Toyota MR2 Spyder (2000-)

Scion tC Specifications:

Bolt Pattern
5x100

Center Bore
54.1mm

Nut Size
M12x1.5

Stock Wheels/Tires
17"x7.0" +45 offset / 215/45-17
?? lbs per set

Other Vehicles With Interchangable Wheels
(to be added)
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LINKS SECTION

Great page that shows images of the bB with different wheels:
http://www.nsktokyo.co.jp/takataka/b...ap/index1.html

Page that lists all types of wheel information:
http://www.wheelspecs.com/main/index.php

Great tire fitment information:
http://www.saturnperformance.com/tech/tiresize/

http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm - with wheel width

Places that you can buy (or window shop for) wheels:
www.tirerack.com
www.discounttiredirect.com
www.1010tires.com
www.gruppe-s.com/Wheels/wheelspage.htm
www.machiii.net/machiii/html/wheels.html
www.racerwheel.com
www.wheelwarehouse.com
www.savastire.com
www.Wheelguyz.com
www.tliperformance.com
www.dragonwheels.com
www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com
www.speedandstyle.com
www.davinwheels.com
www.tenkafubu.com
www.falkentire.com/wheel_select.htm
Recommended Offset from Fabolous Company - Posted By The_Saint
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24726
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Originally Posted by Prototype_xB
(I figured I'd post this up to help anyone that may be new to wheels+tires.)

A lot of people can be confused when it comes to the sizes of tires. P###/##R-##

It'll take 1 minute for me to explain to you :)

The best way to explain is to use an example. For this example, I'll use my tire size:

P215/35R-18 ( simplified as--> 215/35-18 )

P-----> The P denotes the tire as being a Passenger vehicle tire

215--> The 215 denotes the measurement of the WIDTH of the tire

35-->35 denotes the Height-to-Width Ratio. That aspect ratio of height to width here in our example is 35 The height of the tire (aka--> Profile or sidewall) is 35% the width of the tire. So if the width of the tire was 100mm, then the height of the tire would be 35mm. Or if the width was 200mm, the height of the sidewall, or profile, would be 70mm, and so on.

R---> R identifies Radial Construction.

18---> The last number, in our case 18, is the diameter from bead to bead on our tire. The 18 denotes that this particular tire fits, and ONLY fits an 18" rim

Simple huh? :P

Next I'll explain the speed designation of tires: The speed rating of a tire is really nothing more than an expression of how well the tire will withstand the temperatures of high speed. Also, this does not necessarily mean that a high speed rated tire will perform better at low speeds than a lower rated tire.

Lower rated tires are usually made from a harder rubber and last longer than softer high speed rated tires. So my advice is that if you don't plan on going 100+mph then don't buy such a tire, they'll only wear more quickly!

Speed ratings:

F / 50mph
G / 56mph
J / 62mph
K / 68mph
L / 75mph
M / 81mph
N / 87mph
P / 93mph
Q / 100mph
R / 106mph
S / 112mph
T / 118mph
U / 124mph
H / 130mph
V / 149mph
Z / 149+mph


Kendo Aug 27, 2003 05:11 PM

The 4×100 bolt pattern is fairly common, however, the steel wheel has a Toyota centerbore (54.1 mm) so most likely you will be limited to Scion xA, Scion xB, Toyota Celica (1988-1989), Toyota Corolla (1988-2001), Toyota Corolla Wagon (1988-1996), Toyota Echo, Toyota MR2 (1986-1990), Toyota Paseo, Toyota Tercel (1989-1998), Toyota MR2 Spyder (2000-).

Kendo Sep 16, 2003 11:57 PM

mypursuit's question
 
If you are running 195/60R15 on a Scion, you are already taller than factory spec (185/60R15). if you run a 225/45R17 on a Scion, you will be 5.19% taller than factory setting. This is even taller than the 215/35R19 tires for the 19" application. There's a good chance you're going to see rubbing issues, plus at 50mph, you will be going 52.6mph and when your odometer shows 1000 miles, you will actually have traveled 948.09 miles. It's recommended to stay within 3% of OE sizing if you want to keep the speedometer and odometer accurate. I'd go 215/40R17. If you'd like a bit more meat, then perhaps 225/40R17 which is only 1.46% larger than stock.

Kendo Sep 19, 2003 04:01 PM

42 Offset
 
42 Offset is really conservative. The wheels will definately tuck under the fenders. Of course, it will all depend on the width of the wheel. There's no way to tell fitment without knowing the width... 42 offset on a 7" wide wheel versus 42 offset on a 8½" wheel will give you different results. I know if you run a 7½" width, ET35 is pretty much flush in the front, and for the rear, ET20-25 would probably be ideal.

Kendo Sep 26, 2003 03:41 PM

fitments
 
Hey ChickenAdobo, (man now I'm hungry... lol), I actually work in the industry and we had some 17×7.5 ET35 Antera wheels that I test fitted to my xB. Then I went underneath to see how much more room I had on the inside of the wheel before hitting the suspension and how much more room I had on the outside to make it flush with the fenders. I also have a chart that compares different offsets with different wheel widths to give me an idea of what will work, and what probably wouldn't.

The 15×7 ET35 will fit no problem. The wheels should sit pretty close to how the factory wheels sit. If you could find an ET25 wheel with a 7" width it would fill the wheel well nicely.

I don't recommend using a 225/60R15 tire on a Scion... way too big. You would be increasing overall diameter to almost 8% over OE height. When we fit aftermarket wheels on vehicles here we won't go over 3% to keep odometer.speedometer measurements within reason. You would be increasing total wheel height by almost 2" and when your odometer reads 1,000 miles you would be at 920 actual miles. You would be 3/4" taller than the 19" (215/35R19) guys, plus the tire would be wider as well. Unless you put a serious lift kit on the box, I'd use a different tire. If you don't want to stick with the factory 185/60R15, I'd probably do 205/55R15 on a 7" wide rim. A 225 tire on a 7" wheel will have the tire ballooning out a bit and may look funny.

Kendo Oct 6, 2003 07:32 PM

Lug Nuts
 
Both the Scion and the Honda Accord use 12mm lug nuts with a 1.5 pitch. By "a couple of mm off", what are you referring to? What kind of wheels do you have? It would be best to check with the manufacturer / distributor of that brand of wheel to see if the hardware is the same on their toyota and honda fitments. Another thing to keep in mind is that the 4-lug Honda Accord is a 4×114.3 bolt pattern and the Scion is a 4×100 bolt pattern so unless your wheel has a dual bolt pattern drilled in (8 lug holes on the wheel all together, 4×100 & 4×114.3), it will not fit. Lastly, the Accord has a centerbore of 64.1mm. If the wheel you currently have is hubcentric to the Accord, then the hole in the center of the wheel should have a diameter of 64.1mm. Since the Scion has a centerbore of 54.1mm, you will need a center ring that has an outer diameter of 64.1mm and an inner diameter of 54.1mm (IF your wheel is hubcentric to the Accord). If your wheel is NOT hubcentric to the Accord (the hole in your wheel is not 64.1mm in diameter), then the center ring you will need has an inner diameter of 54.1mm and an outer diameter to match the hole in the wheel. Once again, it would be best to check with the manufacturer or distributor of your brand wheel to see what hardware they have for proper fitment.

xCube Feb 7, 2004 03:44 AM

Re: FAQ: Wheel Fitment
 
Could someone tell me why 225/40/18's on a 18 x 7.5 wheel is too wide, but yet you can go with 225/40/18 on a 18 x 9.0 rim I want to know.

gulp35 Feb 17, 2004 11:33 PM

Probably because the 225 tires are nearly 9 Inches wide. so placing them on a 9 inch wide wheel would be good. on the other hand putting a 9 in ch tire on a 7.5 wouldn't be so good.

DJ_X_Trodinaire Mar 19, 2004 02:51 PM

It does not mean that you have to use the exact wheel tire combo

The FAQ was just pointing out what works so far

people need to post or pm their wheel combo so we can update the FAQ

Dylan Apr 9, 2004 04:02 PM

Re: FAQ: Wheel Fitment
 

Originally Posted by Dylan
I don't know much about how to select wheels and tires. My dealer recommended I get Kosei K-1 Racing Wheels and Yokohama AVS ES100 205/55VR15 high performance tires for the summer. Can anyone tell me whether this was a good recommendation? Any pros and cons to these choices?

Well, I just got my Kosei wheels and Yokohama tires on yesterday and can I say how HUGE an improvement these are in comparison to the stock wheels and tires? My xB now handles like it's driving on rails. :lol: It feels so much more solid on the road. I've taken the curved off-ramps from highways at fairly high speeds and the car grips the road like you wouldn't believe!

Okay, those non-newbie car enthusiasts are probably saying "duh!" but for those of you who never really paid much attention to modifications and such on cars like me, believe me when I say how significant a difference tires can make.

If the change from all-season to summer performance tires is any indication of benefits, I am DEFINITELY going to get dedicated winter tires for next winter. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be many winter tires on the market that fit our cars--at least that's what the tire shop I went to said.

Does anyone know about or can recommend a good winter tire for the xB?

Thanks,

BlueBox Apr 9, 2004 04:40 PM

Hey guys

Will 18 x 8 with 35mm offset fit ???

hotluva Apr 9, 2004 05:28 PM

OK need to ask another fitment question
 
OK guys, the info posted here is great... and normally that'd be all the info I'd want... BUT I've fallen in LOVE with a set of wheels that are discontinued.... I've only found them in 2 places that have any left... one has a set of 16's in a silver finish that'll work... BUT one place has in stock 17's in a polished finish that I'd much rather have, they are 17 x 7.5 with an offset of 45... I'm really stupid when it comes to wheels and I'll admit it. I see the fitment chart showing a max offset of 40... Can I use spacers to compensate? I really have my heart set on these rims and want to see if there is anyway to make this happen..

any and all help appreciated.

es65notch Apr 10, 2004 05:30 PM

I have 17 x 7 1/2 with a 42 offset and 215-40-17 tires lowered and it hasent rubbed yet fingers crossed

J_A_Trevino Apr 12, 2004 03:23 AM

just curious as to when do you know when you need spacers? also, i understood that they go between your wheel and tire but have seen some put behind the rear hub is that right? one more question what does it mean to roll the fenders? thanks a bunch.... :lol:

DJ_X_Trodinaire Apr 12, 2004 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by _666_jesus_999_
just curious as to when do you know when you need spacers? also, i understood that they go between your wheel and tire but have seen some put behind the rear hub is that right? one more question what does it mean to roll the fenders? thanks a bunch.... :lol:

ive never seen spacer behind the hub/drum brakes?


only time you need spacers
A) if you want your wheels flush with the rear fender
B) if you are having rubbing issue in there rear suspension part(you bought the wrong offset wheels or wheel design)

rolling fenders
pushing up on the fender lip so it will give a little more room for your wheel
should be done professionally in my opinion

heres an article on rolling fenders
http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=131

k4kas Apr 14, 2004 08:48 PM

The spacer behind the spindle is designed for camber.
It is an uneven wedge if you will.
People here use them for camber to get wider wheels to fit without to much modification.
Not my style but it accomplishes what was desired.

squirrel May 10, 2004 04:40 PM

Ok, I guess its about time I posted my 411. I have a TCM xB on TEIN coilovers. They are set at 2.5 inch drop up front, and 2.0 inch drop in the rear. I'm running 17x7.5 Buddy Club wheels w/ +42 offset. The tires are 215/40-17 Nitto Neo-Gens, and I am also running a 3 mm spacer in the rear. No problems at this time and I have put almost 2k miles on this set-up.

scionara May 10, 2004 05:20 PM

I guess I should also post my setup since mine is probably the less common one.

Set-up back in June of 2k3:

Tires: 225x40x18 on all 4 corners
wheels: 18x7.5 42mm
Springs: Spy 2" drop lowering Springs
Spacers: 5mm in the rear only (to bring the wheel out more)

Rubbing in the rear: Yes
How to fix: Cut the small piece of plastic from the inner splash guard where the tire
is rubbing. NO MORE RUBBING after this simple fix.

Rubbing in the front: Yes
How to fix: cutting a small piece of plastic from the inner plastic fender where the tire is rubbing, but with a 2" drop, you will still rub agains the fastener that holds the bumper to the fender. Switched to 215x35x18 and no more rubbing.

Current Setup @ 28.5K miles:

Tires: 215x40x18 int Front 225x40x18s in the back:
wheels: 18x7.5 42mm
Springs: Spy 2" drop lowering Springs
Spacers: 5mm in the rear only (to bring the wheel out more)

I love this setup over the previous setup because the 215x40x18s is more forgiving when hitting bumps vs. 215x35x18s (more tire between the road and the rim). I also like the subtle wheel staggered look.

Rubbing in the Front: Yes, only when turning the wheel all the way left/right.
Rubbing in the back: None.

I hope this helps :lol:

http://www.scionxb.net/index_files/X...4/DSC00019.JPG

Lip May 11, 2004 12:13 PM

21-45-17..... 45offset
 
215x45x17....45 offset


front fine no rubbing

rear touches rear arm. ground down manufacturing circle on arm. no rubbing.

I know..its sky high...just got it yesterday

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-Keith- May 18, 2004 04:52 AM

215/35/18 +45 offset had 5mm spacer added in rear

No rubbing at all and I drove her to vegas and back.... Will be dropping it 2 inches soon.


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