imboxtin

Been undecided for 4 months size wise since i got my box.
i know i want 18's not too big not too small .
Not a fan of the spacer deal so can i get an offset that will make even front and back.
From what i been reading the rear is 10mm diff so do i get like 25 offset in front tand 35 in rear? not really sure need help. never liked spacers i think they are dangerous.
18x7 18x8 18 x9 ??? 18.7.5

iheartzombies

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I just ordered my wheels today. I was gonna get 18, but I went 17 instead. I got 17x7 and plan on using these spacer shims, which are way safer than any others Ive seen.

http://www.onetongarage.com/products...him/index.html

TerribleTed

I have 18x7.5 42MM offset front and rear with 215/40R/18 tires. They fit everywhere "just" even with a 2" drop. You certainly can't have an offset further inside than this without spacers on the rear at least (clearance to the torque beam at the inner edge of the tire on mine is less than 1/8 inch). Outer clearance at the rear is fine but not big. The fronts will rub in full lock turns but otherwise are fine( I just don't turn the steering wheel that last 1", they rub tie down hooks in the inner front wheelhouse.. i bent the hokks inward just a touch to be sure that IF I rub them the tire can only contact the side and not the edge of these... very easy a couple blows with a carpenter hammer tweaked them just a little bit). I would not want any larger combo than this the clearances would just be too tight.

hotbox05

wow 42 offset? shizer that sucks.

and 215/40 tires? wow . majorly off offset/tire size. at least from optimal but gotta do what ya gotta do to get wheels you like to fit eh ?

TerribleTed

Drives great. Way smoother than the more common 215/35/18. I also don't personnaly like the rubber bandy look, the 215/40 looks no where near as rubber bandy as the 215/35. The 42 offset leaves a good 3/8 or so clearance on the outside with the 7.5 wide rim and minimal clearance inside (rear)(but then this dimension never changes either). It is way more connected with these wheels and tires than the stock 15s. Handles and rides even better after the addition of the 2" drop goldlines I am using.

iheartzombies

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Bigger offset is tucked in right?

hotbox05

true. but running oversized tires throw's you speedo off , raises the car up and imo looks like poo.

the smoother ride i believe .


the 42 offset bring your wheels in too close , so close so as that you can't turn lock to lock. that and the larger tires.

hotbox05

yes

iheartzombies

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What is the offset for 17 inch 006's? I think its around 30, I should be safe with 215/40/17's ?

hotbox05

215/40/17 is equivelent to stock diameter. 30 offset should work as long as the wheels are narrower than 9.5 in the rear and about 8 or 8.5 up front/

TerribleTed

The speedo is off. By less than .5 MPH at 60 MPH (not a big deal at all)( I have a gps that verifys this data). The 215/40/18 tire size is listed as an optional oversize on Scion's own site BTW, with a 40 offset (but that isn't lowered). The hitting when turned to full lock doesn't effect a dam thing unless you pull the wheel all the way to full lock and hold it there, literally as soon as you don't hold it against full lock it no longer hits. Even if you were to hold it rubbing and make many circles at full lock it would take a long time to hurt anything as the tire rubs about 1 inch up the side of the tiedown hook against flat smooth metal. I would much rather rub here than at the fender lip where if you rub and hit a bump you tear stuff up. If you were to space these 18x7.5 wheels at say 40 (or very close to there) you would start hitting the bolts by the fender front bumper joint ( I saw an xB with 18x7.5 40 offset the guy swore didnt rub (he was also on 215/40/18's and dropped 2 inches), yet the bolts in the wheel open lip at this joint were rubbed silver). the extra height from the tire is less than 3/8 inch...when your dropped 2" with lip kits that add another 1"+ drop an extra 3/8 inch isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I stand by my statement that I would certainly not go any larger in total overall diameter or width or offset for sure. Some one is braver than I and doesn't mind hearing crunch now and then, and doesn't mind rolling their wheel openings, they can put bigger tires than I

Looking like "poo" is certainly totally opinion. I am an old guy not a young guy. Rubber bands are a young guy thing. I think 215/35/18's look like a pooed on rubber band.

imboxtin

Looks good ted i still dont understand 35 or 40 is 40 a little beefyer than 35?

hotbox05

40 is more sidewall aka fattr tire. not width wise but sidewall height.

iheartzombies

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woulhotbox what size tires are on your 962's?

TerribleTed

a 40 series tire is a bit taller than a 35 series of the same width 215. The difference between a 35 series and a 45 series (of the same section width 215 say) is less than 1 inch in overall diameter or less than 1/2 inch ride height (since you can't ride on both the top and the bottom at the same time to get the whole inch the 35, 40,45 etc actually tells the ratio of height to width, the 215,225,235 etc is the width . a 225/35/18 would be roughly the same height as a 215/40/18 but wider, just as a 215/40/18 is the same width as a 215/35/18 just a bit taller.

hotbox05

18x7.5 with a 40mm offset will not rub at 2 inch drop.

changing from 42 offset to 40 offset is only 2MM difference. 7,5's are not that wide where they will rub that easily.

and yes the 40 series on an 18 looking like poo is an opinion. i gave it . yay

215/35/18's look like poo as well imo.

imboxtin

COOL SO IM GONNA GO WIDTH 18.75 215/40/18 NO RUB OR MINIMAL AT FULL LOCK CORRECT?

TerribleTed

Oh Hotbox I see you have 17's?? So you like more rubber on the side wall as well for look. I just couldn't find any 17 inch wheels that turned my crank so it hadda be 18's with ideally a little bit more rubber. The 215/35/18's really look like poo IMO. Too bad I can't stuff even taller tires on these 18's maybe they would be even less rubber bandy. And yeah I was surprised when I saw the rub evidence on that guys 215/40/18 40 offset setup but indeed it was there (more on the right than the left) Maybe he only rubs slamming thru a gutter at his driveway or something. ( I would have prefered a 40 offset but I wasn't going to spend the big $$$ for custom billets and found nothing that suited me in a 18 inch 38-40 offset...basically I fell in love with the Driv Royales which I then bought, guessing I could space then if I needed to. No need tho.

TerribleTed

imboxtin yes depending on what offset wheel you choose. 42's will rub at lock 40MM offset might not rub at all, dunno about any smaller, if you get much smaller an offset you will start hitting the fender in turns. I am not sure where this point of no return is 38MM 35MM??? Offset just to refresh is the amount of wheel that is inboard of the lugs with zero being lugs centered in the wheel. The higher the offset the more the mounting area of the wheel is moved out relative outer bead where the tire mounts. A zero offset wheel would have the lugnut mounting face centered in the wheel and a deep look from the ouside:0 From zero offset is measured in Minus numbers more minus sending the lugs farther in toward then inner wheel lip.

hotbox05

i just hate the look of 18's on xb's. to me xb's only look good on 17's or 19's. 19's cos a ton and are oversized but look much better than 20's to me.

18's just don't look right to me.

something about 17's have almost always worked for me.

when i get my truck it'll have billet 20's tho.