UnFocused

Ok, im inching up in the next few weeks to buy an xB. I realize that the 2005 xB's have only minor differences to the 2004's. My question is this: do the 2005 xB have all the 2004 TSB's performed on them already? i know their were some minor problems with the a/c and with some rattling. I already made the mistake of purchacing a first year Ford Focus, and i dont want to repeat buying a first year model again. also- with the key fobs: do they come black, or do you get a color choice? i know with the "security" system they do, but its a minor detail i cant find...
any positive help is appreciated.

Matt

Max2k

Scion security sucks, get an aftermarket one. The key fob comes only in black.

its_ikon

typically the 04 tsb's should be taken care of for the 05's. if it is not, just take it in and it will be fixed. the only big i can think of is the rattles.

UnFocused

well, thats what im trying to avoid- buying a brand new car and having to have warrenty work performed right away. Im asumming that toyota will have the new procedures in effect to elimnate the 04 tsb's on the 05's. but im asking on here if anyone knew specifically. the key fob issue in not a big deal, i thought it was cool to get something other than black......

the_saint

comparing ford to toyota...that's like apples to oranges. besides, the "xB" has been around in japan for a couple of years now so i would imagine IF there were any serious bugs, they should have been fixed already

George

TSBs are generally taken care of at the factory from the date of the TSB. The TSB generally has an "production change effective VIN" after which the TSB has been applied at the factory.

It isn't like Microsoft, where they sell the same buggy product forever and expect the buyer to download 50M of security hole fixes right away.

George

mikochu

you mean service packs?