I am buying a 05 XB that is is great shape except both front airbags have been deployed. they bags are stuffed into their recepticals but sticking out. Can I remove the airbags and and bypass the sensors, or what problems am I going to face if I purchase the car? If I have to replace the bags and sensors where and how should I do it to save money. How much should it cost?

thanks,

Jerry

 

Your airbag system is currently in the off mode. After they are deployed then on they are off. You can drive the car forever like this with no problems arising from this. In Texas it will still pass state inspection. You can remove the airbags but there is no way to by pass the sensors (to get the light out) that I know of. When you start your car the computer goes through a check of all sensors and airbags. If it finds that any or all airbags , sensors and seatbelts ( two front ) are not working properly then it tells the computer not to activate the airbag system and that is when it will not turn off the airbag light. Some people will just put black tape on the dash light and go down the road. If you want to repair your system the following steps need to be done. replace both airbags. They are available on e-bay for around $300 (Drivers) and $100 (pass) I am not fimilar with the 1st gen XB as far as if you have to replace the dash. I think you do but don't know , but look at the dash and if does not have a pass airbag cut out (door) where the airbag deployed then you will have to buy a dash also. next you will have to replace the air bag module under the console. you can buy a used one that has never been deployed, a new one from the dealer or have yours reset. There are people on E-bay that will reset these for around $40.00. Now the x factor, your seatbelts. In the past the rule of thumb was if the seatbelts still retracted and worked as suppose to then they were ok. Well it is a 50 / 50 chance they will need to be replaced. There are some sort of a sensor in them that will deploy when they lock out during a crash. I always replace mine just in case. As far as the sensors themselves there are two ,one on each side of the cores support and two in the b pillars(between the two doors). very seldom do these need replaced. ( on the XD's they is one more in the pass seat to sense if someone is sitting there but not sure if the 1st gen had this) Here's a recap of estimated cost to get your car back to specs.

Airbag drivers (used) $300
Airbag Pass (used) $100
Dash ??????? (used) $100
Seatbelts both( Used) $150
Module reset $50
total $700 (assuming you do all the work yourself)

The dash light will go out on its own when you replace everything needed to be replaced. next time you start any car watch the airbag light. It will come on and after about 5 seconds it will go out. This is the time it takes for the car to run the test. Good luck. it really is not a real hard thing to fix it just cost money. LOL
One last thing. sometimes when the airbags deploy the plastic connections to the airbags melt right on the airbag. you may have to replace these also. They are for sale on ebay for around $7 a pair.
If you take this to a dealer they will quote you $2000 or more as they will use all new parts. A local mom and pop mechcanic may or may not take on this job. Your best bet is a local body shop that buys and rebuilds wrecks. Good Luck.

 

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You can always just remove them add in an after market steering wheel and follow those DIYs to get rid of the lights. That may be a cheaper alternative? Unless you want factory airbags then yes the above post is correct.

Also, what caused the bags to deploy? If it was an accident I would make. Sure everything is functioning properly and all the work looks good.

 

THANK YOU!!!!

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If you can advise, you are very informative and I really appreciate the help..

 

oh man, i like those seats and door panels! good luck with the repairs, it seems like it would be worth it to me!

 

Two things I would advise with this car...

1.) you find exactly what that "minor" accident was. You don't want to but it and later find out he hit a deer or something a started replacing a bunch of components. That when you might run into some problems.

2.) test drive it if at all possible... If it doesn't feel right back out.

 

I got the car and I think I will go with an aftermarket steering wheel since when the airbags deployed there is no horn. I can't figure out how to deactivate the seat belt tensioners. I can live with no retraction if I could just get another inch or so to reach the buckle. It did have a front end collision as the bumper, grill and radiator have been replaced. It drives smooth,tight and straight at 85mph so I think it was a steal at $4800.

 

Once the seatbelt is deployed it is extremely tough to fix it. I have seen it done but it takes taking it completely apart and rebuilding it. You have three choices. Leave it as is. send it out to a company that rebuilds them (look on ebay ) or go to a junk yard and buy a used one. they sell for $50 -$75 . Good luck. If your horn is not working it is more then likely the clock spring in your steering column. It is right below the base of the steering wheel. You can run a different wheel and still have a horn of you replace the clock spring. good luck.

 

After airbag deployment, I fixed the seat belts even though they do not recoil. My next job is to get a working horn and filling the void left by the airbag by getting an aftermarket steering wheel. The connectors from the clock spring are melted, can I hard wire from them or do you have any ideas on reconnecting the steering wheel button to make the horn work.

Thanks for any advice...

 

I want to know the answer as well or can I just push mine back in I can’t find the answer anywhere

 

replacing airbags on a 05 is very simple. You can buy both bags on ebay. here is the challenge. To get them to work you will need to reset your airbag computer under the consol. Many Companys on ebay do this for around 40 dollars. Next your seat belts may or not need to be rebuilt. You have a good chance they do not. The other part that sometimes needs replaced is the steering wheel clock spring. Most of the time the wire plugs are all that need replaced. They are also available on ebay. Been a long time since I did these so I don't remember if the pass airbag is part of the dash. It may be 2 pieces' if so, you will need a new dash. One last thing. BE SURE TO BUY THE CORECT DRIVERS AIRBAG. There are 2 different types. They are noticeably different but make sure they match yours. As far as front sensors unless they are gone or cracked you will be ok.

 

There is no sensor in the seatbelt retractors.

A pre tensioner cartridge explodes within the seatbelt retractor mechanism which reels in a few inches of the seatbelt strap upon vehicle collision. Seatbelts in this condition are NOT useable, they are not rebuildable. The seatbelt retractors have to be replaced.

The dash board does not have to be replaced when replacing the airbag. The dash will not break when the airbag is deployed.

The steering wheel..........you will need the correct horn button for your car as well as a part called "clock-spring".........I don't know why this clock- spring part is called a clock-spring as it's not a clock nor is it a spring.

A local "Pull It Yourself" type salvage yard should have all these parts available for less than a hundred dollars. There are three xB's at my local salvage yard as of yesterday, none of them wrecked, no doubt all SRS parts are good.

There are unique ways that the airbag system electrical connectors attach onto airbags. All airbag connectors are yellow. The dash airbag connector needs to be pushed together and a spring will pop the connector off the bag.

The clock-spring connectors on the back of the horn airbag...........once the airbag is off the steering wheel, look behind the horn button. You will see the yellow connectors. In the middle of each connector is an orange tab. You will need a tiny pick tool to lift the orange tabs out of the yellow connectors before the connectors can be released & removed.

 

[QUOTE=18TTony;4311784]There is no sensor in the seatbelt retractors.

A pre tensioner cartridge explodes within the seatbelt retractor mechanism which reels in a few inches of the seatbelt strap upon vehicle collision. Seatbelts in this condition are NOT useable, they are not rebuildable. The seatbelt retractors have to be replaced.

The dash board does not have to be replaced when replacing the airbag. The dash will not break when the airbag is deployed.

The steering wheel..........you will need the correct horn button for your car as well as a part called "clock-spring".........I don't know why this clock- spring part is called a clock-spring as it's not a clock nor is it a spring.

A local "Pull It Yourself" type salvage yard should have all these parts available for less than a hundred dollars. There are three xB's at my local salvage yard as of yesterday, none of them wrecked, no doubt all SRS parts are good.

There are unique ways that the airbag system electrical connectors attach onto airbags. All airbag connectors are yellow. The dash airbag connector needs to be pushed together and a spring will pop the connector off the bag.

The clock-spring connectors on the back of the horn airbag...........once the airbag is off the steering wheel, look behind the horn button. You will see the yellow connectors. In the middle of each connector is an orange tab. You will need a tiny pick tool to lift the orange tabs out of the yellow connectors before the connectors can be released & removed.[/QUOTE can parts off of a xb work on an xa]

 

[QUOTE=Pambhunt;4311786]will parts off of an XB work on an XA and we’re is the salvage ones you mentioned located I’m in nc I’m wondering if they could ship me the parts needed

 

can XB parts able to work on an XA scion

 

Assuming the xA and xB cars are the same year..............The only parts that I know of that can fit both xB and xA cars are:

Impact sensors.

​​​​The steering wheel airbag......but the airbag has to come from an identical steering wheel.

The steering wheel clock-spring.......and the clock-spring has to come from a car with the same exact steering wheel.

The airbag control module located below the center console.

Other than those parts, I don't think anything else fits both xA and xB cars.

And again, this is only if the cars are the same year......the parts will fit and work properly......if the years are different, these parts might fit, but may not work properly due to different airbag system electrical aspects.

Example:

 

[QUOTE=18TTony;4311793]Assuming the xA and xB cars are the same year..............The only parts that I know of that can fit both xB and xA cars are:

Impact sensors.

​​​​The steering wheel airbag......but the airbag has to come from an identical steering wheel.

The steering wheel clock-spring.......and the clock-spring has to come from a car with the same exact steering wheel.

The airbag control module located below the center console.

Other than those parts, I don't think anything else fits both xA and xB cars.

And again, this is only if the cars are the same year......the parts will fit and work properly......if the years are different, these parts might fit, but may not work properly due to different airbag system electrical aspects.

Example:[/QUOTE Can anyone tell me where I can find parts for a 2004 Scion XA and I also want to know what do I do about my seatbelt because they are locked or I can’t pull them out so I guess they locked when the airbag deploy I’m a lady and I don’t have no one they can give me any answers and I thank you all For any and all help and leading me in the right direction

 

You have three choices. Leave it as is. send it out to a company that rebuilds them (look on ebay ) or go to a junk yard and buy a used one.