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paul_dezod 07-17-2012 04:11 PM

xB2 Green header now available...
 
http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsports_green_4-1.cfm

http://www.dezod.com/prod_images_blo...derquality.jpg

http://www.dezod.com/prod_images_blowup/TC1header.jpg


:icon_mrgreen:

Mikey_Boy 07-17-2012 08:34 PM

thats a work of art. great job guys at dezod!

TrevorS 07-18-2012 01:48 AM

However, this is a 4:1 header Vs. the compared against Weapon-R 4:2:1! It just so happens a 4:1 delivers max performance at high rpm (racing), whereas a 4:2:1 delivers max performance in the mid range (road driving). Kind of an apples to oranges comparison as far as I'm concerned :)! It's great there's another 4:1 option, but please don't automatically consider it superior to the Weapon-R, it's a different animal. Personally, I'd be very happy to be running a Weapon-R (I like mid-range torque), but I'm running a wrapped 4:1 instead (price worked and performance isn't half bad)! I don't question this may be a great product, I merely suggest looking closely at your needs and goals when making your choice :)!

Goodtimes197750 07-18-2012 01:53 AM

It's not 50 state legal is it?

VENisME 07-18-2012 05:40 AM

Looks good, but too expensive for me.

pyroman131 07-19-2012 04:51 AM

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Goodtimes197750 07-19-2012 05:01 AM

After reading up on it I still think I'd go with the weapon r, I don't race and I am automatic my car won't see revs high enough to justify this product. Looks sweet though.

paul_dezod 07-19-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by TrevorS (Post 4038017)
However, this is a 4:1 header Vs. the compared against Weapon-R 4:2:1! It just so happens a 4:1 delivers max performance at high rpm (racing), whereas a 4:2:1 delivers max performance in the mid range (road driving). Kind of an apples to oranges comparison as far as I'm concerned :)! It's great there's another 4:1 option, but please don't automatically consider it superior to the Weapon-R, it's a different animal. Personally, I'd be very happy to be running a Weapon-R (I like mid-range torque), but I'm running a wrapped 4:1 instead (price worked and performance isn't half bad)! I don't question this may be a great product, I merely suggest looking closely at your needs and goals when making your choice :)!


Originally Posted by VENisME (Post 4038076)
Looks good, but too expensive for me.



Originally Posted by Goodtimes197750 (Post 4038479)
After reading up on it I still think I'd go with the weapon r, I don't race and I am automatic my car won't see revs high enough to justify this product. Looks sweet though.

Our headers are hand crafted here in the USA and not made in China like Weapon R nor mass produced. Are headers are made to order and offer true American made craftsmanship that is unparalleled for the $ and for the application. So if you are serious about performance, don't want to pollute the environment, still want to remain legal, this header is the piece for you.

Our header has gains across the RPM band from 2000 RPMS on! It's not just redline gains like many other headers out there. We sought after a broader power band, which is what we achieved.


Originally Posted by Goodtimes197750 (Post 4038020)
It's not 50 state legal is it?

No. 49 state. Cali it's not legal.


Originally Posted by pyroman131 (Post 4038477)
"Green" nomenclature implies environmentally friendly, which would suggest that installing this product makes the xB "Green". :)

Correct.

xseveredveganx 07-19-2012 05:57 PM

So it has been confirmed that this fits the 2nd gen xB? The tC and xB2 do not share the same header. There are subtle differences. I'm willing to be a test fit guinea pig.

paul_dezod 07-19-2012 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by xseveredveganx (Post 4038661)
So it has been confirmed that this fits the 2nd gen xB? The tC and xB2 do not share the same header. There are subtle differences. I'm willing to be a test fit guinea pig.

Confirmed fitment with the xB2. Different part number as well.

pyroman131 07-20-2012 09:00 PM

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TrevorS 07-21-2012 01:03 AM

If it's 49 state legal, then it's ahead of my current 4:1 header :(! I'm expecting to be OK with my current setup at emissions inspection, but if I could be assured of that at a reasonable price, it would clearly be an advantage! Guess I'll find out come the 5yr inspection (winter coming). I'm hoping my test will be limited to an OBD II scan -- I know that passes :)!

In any case, it's clearly a flow improvement over the OE manifold and I'm presuming it doesn't require an elbow for the second O2 sensor (given it apparently includes a cat). Could well be a natural upgrade from OE for the more conservative amongst us :)!

GDubya 07-21-2012 02:49 PM

Paul,
This header looks to be a premium piece of workmanship and getting it green certainly has it's advantages.

Can you please post your dyno curve to redline on an xB?

I own a '12 and have just finished installing a K&N Typhoon SRI. I don't plan on FI or getting into the motor. But I am considering a true performance exhaust, and I believe you get what you pay for.

What/whose components would you recommend for the rest of the system?

paul_dezod 07-23-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by TrevorS (Post 4039091)
If it's 49 state legal, then it's ahead of my current 4:1 header :(! I'm expecting to be OK with my current setup at emissions inspection, but if I could be assured of that at a reasonable price, it would clearly be an advantage! Guess I'll find out come the 5yr inspection (winter coming). I'm hoping my test will be limited to an OBD II scan -- I know that passes :)!

In any case, it's clearly a flow improvement over the OE manifold and I'm presuming it doesn't require an elbow for the second O2 sensor (given it apparently includes a cat). Could well be a natural upgrade from OE for the more conservative amongst us :)!

No anti-fouler is needed due to a real cat being used.


Originally Posted by GDubya (Post 4039224)
Paul,
This header looks to be a premium piece of workmanship and getting it green certainly has it's advantages.

Can you please post your dyno curve to redline on an xB?

I own a '12 and have just finished installing a K&N Typhoon SRI. I don't plan on FI or getting into the motor. But I am considering a true performance exhaust, and I believe you get what you pay for.

What/whose components would you recommend for the rest of the system?

The engine is the same on the xB and the tC. The results would be near identical if not, the same. We just did test fitment, sound check and street impressions on the setup.

Well the further selection of components above and beyond this are going to be at the end user's discretion and contingent upon what sound levels and power levels they want to achieve overall.

TrevorS 07-25-2012 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by paul_dezod (Post 4039617)
No anti-fouler is needed due to a real cat being used.

The engine is the same on the xB and the tC. The results would be near identical if not, the same. We just did test fitment, sound check and street impressions on the setup.

Well the further selection of components above and beyond this are going to be at the end user's discretion and contingent upon what sound levels and power levels they want to achieve overall.

Sounds good to me dude :)! My Ebay Strup knock off works fine (took some effiort to bring the fit in :(, but I'd prefer a header that inherently did more to support the mid-range! Sounds to me this header deserves serious consideration.

Aged_xB_Guy 07-28-2012 02:07 PM

Does anybody have an idea about what would be an appropriate exhaust to go with this header on an '08 xB with TRD Supercharger? Hopefully not too loud, and all the way back from the header to the tailpipe. Must meet Texas emissions.:pray:

Mikey_Boy 01-13-2013 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Aged_xB_Guy (Post 4041329)
Does anybody have an idea about what would be an appropriate exhaust to go with this header on an '08 xB with TRD Supercharger? Hopefully not too loud, and all the way back from the header to the tailpipe. Must meet Texas emissions.:pray:

Try tsudo dual catback, great sounding exhuast, full catback. Strongly considering pairing this header with my tsudo duals and injen cai. wish i was supercharged like you lol.

I've been going back between header choices with the new tsudo, weapon r, but I think this ones my favorite because of the high flow cat, and I've always been a fan of dezod's work in the scion community.

paul_dezod 01-14-2013 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Mikey_Boy (Post 4081632)
Try tsudo dual catback, great sounding exhuast, full catback. Strongly considering pairing this header with my tsudo duals and injen cai. wish i was supercharged like you lol.

I've been going back between header choices with the new tsudo, weapon r, but I think this ones my favorite because of the high flow cat, and I've always been a fan of dezod's work in the scion community.

Thanks! Ours makes it truly bolt-on performance.

horsefeathers 01-10-2015 10:32 PM

Paul do you still make this header I didn't see it on your site? Is this made to order?

paul_dezod 01-10-2015 11:09 PM

No sir. Discontinued


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