xB2 Green header now available...
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thats a work of art. great job guys at dezod!
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However, this is a 4:1 header Vs. the compared against Weapon-R 4:2:1! It just so happens a 4:1 delivers max performance at high rpm (racing), whereas a 4:2:1 delivers max performance in the mid range (road driving). Kind of an apples to oranges comparison as far as I'm concerned :)! It's great there's another 4:1 option, but please don't automatically consider it superior to the Weapon-R, it's a different animal. Personally, I'd be very happy to be running a Weapon-R (I like mid-range torque), but I'm running a wrapped 4:1 instead (price worked and performance isn't half bad)! I don't question this may be a great product, I merely suggest looking closely at your needs and goals when making your choice :)!
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It's not 50 state legal is it?
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Looks good, but too expensive for me.
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After reading up on it I still think I'd go with the weapon r, I don't race and I am automatic my car won't see revs high enough to justify this product. Looks sweet though.
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Originally Posted by TrevorS
(Post 4038017)
However, this is a 4:1 header Vs. the compared against Weapon-R 4:2:1! It just so happens a 4:1 delivers max performance at high rpm (racing), whereas a 4:2:1 delivers max performance in the mid range (road driving). Kind of an apples to oranges comparison as far as I'm concerned :)! It's great there's another 4:1 option, but please don't automatically consider it superior to the Weapon-R, it's a different animal. Personally, I'd be very happy to be running a Weapon-R (I like mid-range torque), but I'm running a wrapped 4:1 instead (price worked and performance isn't half bad)! I don't question this may be a great product, I merely suggest looking closely at your needs and goals when making your choice :)!
Originally Posted by VENisME
(Post 4038076)
Looks good, but too expensive for me.
Originally Posted by Goodtimes197750
(Post 4038479)
After reading up on it I still think I'd go with the weapon r, I don't race and I am automatic my car won't see revs high enough to justify this product. Looks sweet though.
Our header has gains across the RPM band from 2000 RPMS on! It's not just redline gains like many other headers out there. We sought after a broader power band, which is what we achieved.
Originally Posted by Goodtimes197750
(Post 4038020)
It's not 50 state legal is it?
Originally Posted by pyroman131
(Post 4038477)
"Green" nomenclature implies environmentally friendly, which would suggest that installing this product makes the xB "Green". :)
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So it has been confirmed that this fits the 2nd gen xB? The tC and xB2 do not share the same header. There are subtle differences. I'm willing to be a test fit guinea pig.
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Originally Posted by xseveredveganx
(Post 4038661)
So it has been confirmed that this fits the 2nd gen xB? The tC and xB2 do not share the same header. There are subtle differences. I'm willing to be a test fit guinea pig.
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If it's 49 state legal, then it's ahead of my current 4:1 header :(! I'm expecting to be OK with my current setup at emissions inspection, but if I could be assured of that at a reasonable price, it would clearly be an advantage! Guess I'll find out come the 5yr inspection (winter coming). I'm hoping my test will be limited to an OBD II scan -- I know that passes :)!
In any case, it's clearly a flow improvement over the OE manifold and I'm presuming it doesn't require an elbow for the second O2 sensor (given it apparently includes a cat). Could well be a natural upgrade from OE for the more conservative amongst us :)! |
Paul,
This header looks to be a premium piece of workmanship and getting it green certainly has it's advantages. Can you please post your dyno curve to redline on an xB? I own a '12 and have just finished installing a K&N Typhoon SRI. I don't plan on FI or getting into the motor. But I am considering a true performance exhaust, and I believe you get what you pay for. What/whose components would you recommend for the rest of the system? |
Originally Posted by TrevorS
(Post 4039091)
If it's 49 state legal, then it's ahead of my current 4:1 header :(! I'm expecting to be OK with my current setup at emissions inspection, but if I could be assured of that at a reasonable price, it would clearly be an advantage! Guess I'll find out come the 5yr inspection (winter coming). I'm hoping my test will be limited to an OBD II scan -- I know that passes :)!
In any case, it's clearly a flow improvement over the OE manifold and I'm presuming it doesn't require an elbow for the second O2 sensor (given it apparently includes a cat). Could well be a natural upgrade from OE for the more conservative amongst us :)!
Originally Posted by GDubya
(Post 4039224)
Paul,
This header looks to be a premium piece of workmanship and getting it green certainly has it's advantages. Can you please post your dyno curve to redline on an xB? I own a '12 and have just finished installing a K&N Typhoon SRI. I don't plan on FI or getting into the motor. But I am considering a true performance exhaust, and I believe you get what you pay for. What/whose components would you recommend for the rest of the system? Well the further selection of components above and beyond this are going to be at the end user's discretion and contingent upon what sound levels and power levels they want to achieve overall. |
Originally Posted by paul_dezod
(Post 4039617)
No anti-fouler is needed due to a real cat being used.
The engine is the same on the xB and the tC. The results would be near identical if not, the same. We just did test fitment, sound check and street impressions on the setup. Well the further selection of components above and beyond this are going to be at the end user's discretion and contingent upon what sound levels and power levels they want to achieve overall. |
Does anybody have an idea about what would be an appropriate exhaust to go with this header on an '08 xB with TRD Supercharger? Hopefully not too loud, and all the way back from the header to the tailpipe. Must meet Texas emissions.:pray:
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Originally Posted by Aged_xB_Guy
(Post 4041329)
Does anybody have an idea about what would be an appropriate exhaust to go with this header on an '08 xB with TRD Supercharger? Hopefully not too loud, and all the way back from the header to the tailpipe. Must meet Texas emissions.:pray:
I've been going back between header choices with the new tsudo, weapon r, but I think this ones my favorite because of the high flow cat, and I've always been a fan of dezod's work in the scion community. |
Originally Posted by Mikey_Boy
(Post 4081632)
Try tsudo dual catback, great sounding exhuast, full catback. Strongly considering pairing this header with my tsudo duals and injen cai. wish i was supercharged like you lol.
I've been going back between header choices with the new tsudo, weapon r, but I think this ones my favorite because of the high flow cat, and I've always been a fan of dezod's work in the scion community. |
Paul do you still make this header I didn't see it on your site? Is this made to order?
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No sir. Discontinued
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