Questions about TRD and the 15 xB
Ok guys so i been on here for a bit but haven't done much since i got the '10 xB to my liking.
90k miles later from starting at 300 im Looking for a new one. Was looking at the Mazda 3 and GTI but honestly I just like the box. (its also cheaper) So I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the factory TRD options. This time around I'm not really doing much to the vehicle besides just driving it. No more laying on the ground in the middle of winter fixing something i broke. Im planning on loading it. TRD shocks Springs Rear sway ( I will take my Tanabe tower strut off my current xB.) Quick Shifter Clutch Kit TRD Exhaust (even though its stupid expensive) Tenzo CAI (cause im not paying 400 for a K&n filter box with a TRD Logo) and Strup header and Trevors throttle body mod will follow on to the new one. So anyone have any experience with the bigger items like the shocks/shifter. I have ridden on the TRD springs for years. I like it but i was wondering if it would be even more comfortable and stable with the matching TRD shocks. The other two vehicles i was looking at come with better components out the box than the xB, so i figure with these Add ons performance and comfort ability should be raised to their level. Also whats the difference between Bespoke and Bespoke Premium don't really understand what the extra grand is for. Thanks guys! __________________ |
The TRD parts work quite well together as a package. The problem is once you spend all that money, you can have a much better car like a Civic Si, Fiesta/Focus ST, etc.
If you do plan on going that route though, do not cheap out and skip the TRD shocks. Biggest mistake I made when I originally had my TRD lowering springs on stock shocks. My xb was a blast to drive with full TRD suspension (sway bar, strut bar, springs, shocks) and the 17 in oem wheels. I just wished I had the money for the LSD and BBK (but would need larger wheels). |
Now why was that a mistake? I have the TRD springs on stock. Had em for the last 40k or so. I planned on having the full TRD setup.
You say better car but no. I will never drive a civic. also fiesta,focus,GTI,mazda 3 are all too small. Sure some are faster but overall enjoyment is higher in the box. |
I moved (gave it to my son) from an '06 xB to a '15 xB. Loved the '06 and I'm really liking the '15 so far. I opted to get the TRD short shifter, the springs (stock shocks) and a strut bar. Now I can't pretend to be a connoisseur of fine performance but I think the changes I made gave the box better handling and a higher fun factor. I decided to keep the stock shocks because I read somewhere that the TRD shocks didn't offer a drastic difference over the stock ones. I might switch if/when I where these out. Surely there are parts out there that are better than TRD but there's a strong comfort factor with having the dealership add factory warranted parts.
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Just remember that the toe in the rear is out with those TRD springs or any springs. There is no adjustment either.
Only way to remedy it is with shims. Going to have to find the page about it. ____ |
Originally Posted by bond007
(Post 4163690)
I moved (gave it to my son) from an '06 xB to a '15 xB. Loved the '06 and I'm really liking the '15 so far. I opted to get the TRD short shifter, the springs (stock shocks) and a strut bar. Now I can't pretend to be a connoisseur of fine performance but I think the changes I made gave the box better handling and a higher fun factor. I decided to keep the stock shocks because I read somewhere that the TRD shocks didn't offer a drastic difference over the stock ones. I might switch if/when I where these out. Surely there are parts out there that are better than TRD but there's a strong comfort factor with having the dealership add factory warranted parts.
Originally Posted by Chance12XB
(Post 4163736)
Just remember that the toe in the rear is out with those trd springs or any springs. There is no adjustment either.
Only way to remedy it is with shims. Going to have to find the page about it. |
Originally Posted by DJ_FroZone
(Post 4163752)
huh? i dont follow
What he is talking about is since we have a solid beam axle with built in camber when you lower the car the axle rotates forward and what was camber starts to become toe. Just hold your hands up in an inverted V shape and twist them forward to see what happens. It's not a ton since the stock camber is between 1-1.5* and you won't be rotating the tires forward too much, but it is there. |
Originally Posted by Greg S
(Post 4163834)
What he is talking about is since we have a solid beam axle with built in camber when you lower the car the axle rotates forward and what was camber starts to become toe. Just hold your hands up in an inverted V shape and twist them forward to see what happens. It's not a ton since the stock camber is between 1-1.5* and you won't be rotating the tires forward too much, but it is there.
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Originally Posted by DJ_FroZone
(Post 4163610)
Now why was that a mistake? I have the TRD springs on stock. Had em for the last 40k or so. I planned on having the full TRD setup.
You say better car but no. I will never drive a civic. also fiesta,focus,GTI,mazda 3 are all too small. Sure some are faster but overall enjoyment is higher in the box. Minus cabin space, every car I mentioned is a much better performance oriented vehicle that will put our xb to shame, its the sad truth. If you want a vehicle that is cheap to purchase, cheap to own, and can make it a some what decent handling car, it's a great option though. |
Originally Posted by AAG
(Post 4163905)
For me it was a mistake because the TRD springs are too stiff for the soft oem dampers, TRD dampers are just better. Had I done it together, I wouldnt have had to take apart the suspension twice. The full TRD suspension is very nice. I put it on piece by piece over the span of 2 years and together, it does transform the xB it to a much more capable vehicle.
Minus cabin space, every car I mentioned is a much better performance oriented vehicle that will put our xB to shame, its the sad truth. If you want a vehicle that is cheap to purchase, cheap to own, and can make it a some what decent handling car, it's a great option though. Maybe it will be my new winter car :icon_mrgreen: __________________ |
I have also been looking for a new car and considered all of the ones you did and felt cramped. I am now thinking about the Forester XT.
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Originally Posted by jthistle
(Post 4164229)
I have also been looking for a new car and considered all of the ones you did and felt cramped. I am now thinking about the Forester XT.
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The ONE upgrade I will suggest time and time again is the TRD / Quaife LSD.
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That's a pretty serious mod. I agree LSD's are awesome. I like the stock one in my FRS. Do you track yours? Do you think that's a worthwhile mod for just modest to spirited street use?
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i got no idea abt parts or any of this but i do want to make my ride feel better i already have the front upper TRD strut bar and trd lower springs stock shocks but i was looking for something to make my ride feel better
the Hotchkis tubular steel front sway bar and tubular steel rear sway bar or just the TRD rear sway bar |
Originally Posted by RayScionXB
(Post 4164310)
i got no idea abt parts or any of this but i do want to make my ride feel better i already have the front upper TRD strut bar and TRD lower springs stock shocks but i was looking for something to make my ride feel better
the Hotchkis tubular steel front sway bar and tubular steel rear sway bar or just the TRD rear sway bar __________________ |
Originally Posted by bond007
(Post 4164302)
That's a pretty serious mod. I agree LSD's are awesome. I like the stock one in my FRS. Do you track yours? Do you think that's a worthwhile mod for just modest to spirited street use?
Plus, with the weather we have (random Ice/snowstorms), its to have when the weather really dumps. Even if I wasn't going to boost it, I'd still have it for sure. |
what is LSD's ?
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Limited Slip Differential
This link may help Link https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sci...26/?styleid=14 |
lsd=sex
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