TrevorS

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Weird, Progressive defines my xB as a micro wagon -- personally, I agree !

vedlinyrim

Whats the news on the outcome? I believe it makes no difference. MPV, Wagon, Truck, Van all should hold the same law where you can black out the rear glass in most states as a utility vehicle.

Tomas

For New York state, the fact that the vehicle is classed officially and federally as an MPV should exempt it from the tint laws for windows behind the "B" pillar (behind the driver), as MPVs are specifically exempted by NYS law.

Since this is a state-by-state thing, there MAY be another state out there that does not exempt MPVs, but I do not know of any.

(As to how this individual ticket came out, I do not know. Hopefully Schmohey will let us know how he fared...)

Tom

hollywoodjdub

Fight it ! if you can prove that there is no tint ..Then you win .. No matter what the law is .. Its the dealer that gets ticketed for selling illegal equipment..Just like its illegal for a tint shop to do limo tint on your windows.So fight the tickit. have another officer sign your tickit in the daytime that says there is no tint on my car.

HATEnFATE

But it IS tinted...

gs_aristo

True but I think he was implying that there is no film on either side of the glass rather the back window is technically "stained" from the factory. I'm so glad TX has no BS laws like this.

elsenordave

I got 5% on the rear windows and the hatch glass, 5% strip over the uv clear on the front windshield & 30% on the front windows. Never been bothered & I have the same set up on my Tacoma.

blawruk

"Never been bothered" - LOLOL!

I'll give you $5 if you go up to a random police officer and be like "Excuse my, but I was wondering if you could look at the tint on my car and tell me if it's legal? I don't want to break any laws....".

elsenordave

My tint setup
I think the key to avoiding the popo is to befriend them.

I have multiple friends on the force and in traffic enforcement...I have asked and the only risk I take is no front plate on my taco

But was told I wouldn't get pulled over for no plate...something more egregious would precipitate the pull over so I drive with relative confidence...

xb2owner

F'ing _____! They'll do anything to get money from our broke ____. Atleast here in NC the xB is considered an SUV so the back glass and rear doors are allowed dark tint.

*edited for language by moderator

Tomas

Both the xB Classic and the xB2 are officially imported and documented as "Multi-Purpose Vehicle" by the federal government, and that is reflected on the federally required information placard attached to each one on the driver's door post...

xB Classic:


xB2:


A picture of that label from one's xB should end the court's interest in pursuing a fine, as that means the vehicle is allowed tinted windows behind the "B" pillar per both federal and NY law.

greathelmet

People can get ticketed for observations by the officer. The "tools" are there to verify, or "backup" the officers' observations. Officer sees a car going about 70 mph. Then uses radar or lidar to verify actual speed of 68.
Visuals. Audios. Drunk. The tools are there to dial in the details of what was seen/heard first.
Convictions have been handed out without the "tools" in a few cases.

Schmohey

It has been a couple of month since I went to court for this issue. I was ____ed off so I didn't get a chance to get back to you guys. I showed the judge all the documentations but he didn't care much and had me pay the fine. I could appeal but it would cost an additional $60 on top of my $180 tint tickets. I didn't want to risk losing another $60 so I just paid it and left it as is.

salgadoimages

I don't understand the law, what about vans and delivery trucks with no rear window? I see them every day.What about wraps with signage? Had one on my Tacoma with a shell, had my co. logo on it. This is what they call law enforcement ? What a wast of our tax dollars IMO.

XBrent_

NYS allows tint behind the B pillar on these vehicles, not sure why they would ticket you. I would fight it till the bitter end just out of the principal of it. I drive my Corvette around with 20% tint with no issues, same with my Jeep, my neighbor moved here from LasVegas and has lived here for 3 years and his truck WINDSHIELD is tinted, the entire thing, along with the rest of the glass and he has not gotten stopped either and he's a young guy who they like to stop. I suppose it largely depends on where you live in NY.

marcusjdm

I was once stopped for tints on my xB2. The cop asked why I had tints. I told him I bought the vehicle this way and that's how Scion built the car.

The cop said he stopped me because he couldn't see if I was wearing my seat belt. BTW, I live in NJ.

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x2x3

Fight it, but be cautious.