NEW XB LETS GUESS THE MPG
04-02-2007, 11:51 PM
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NEW XB LETS GUESS THE MPG
I am hoping that there are some new headlines soon. I am especially curious to see the driver reviews. Especially gas mileage? I am thinking its going to be pretty poor. Probably like 23-24 mpg
04-03-2007, 12:49 AM
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Remember that the EPA is finally updating the mileage system so ALL 2008 cars will take a considerable hit, especially small and/or hybrid cars. With that in mind, I would imagine that it will be about 20city/28hwy or so. Something to keep in mind also is the gearing. If Scion goes with the Camry's taller gears instead of the tC's shorter gears, it'll get a little bit better mileage.
04-03-2007, 01:15 AM
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I would hope they go with the camry gears. I would be very dissapointed if they dropped the gas mileage for a little extra horsepower. Who needs that !
04-03-2007, 01:30 AM
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They could of just kept the same engine. With the price of gas soaring, and the success of the oirignal box, I'm surprised at them going bigger.
04-03-2007, 02:05 AM
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With its extra size (and weight) the 1.5L wouldn't have kept up with any of the competition, so a larger engine was needed. With that said, is the 2.4L a better choice than the 1.8L? Who knows. All I know is that it's going to be a fun box (albeit softer one) to drive. Anytime you give a vehicle 55% more power, there is a considerable difference, I just hope they kept the weight down.
04-03-2007, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dskinner
...I just hope they kept the weight down.
04-03-2007, 02:25 AM
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It went bigger because it's the American way. All our cars get bigger because we keep getting fatter and fatter.
04-03-2007, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Max
Originally Posted by dskinner
...I just hope they kept the weight down.
As for the weight, it's a bit high, but considering the Camry/RAV4/Highlander are all well over 3000lb, I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun to drive.
600 extra pounds to deal with
. Too bad, it was fun telling customers that the xB was lighter than a new Mazda MX-5. Toyota, I expect a 5-star rating out of this thing. Between the new safety features and larger size/added weight, it should excel in one of the only areas the last gen didn't.
04-03-2007, 03:26 AM
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safety!
04-03-2007, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by superboxcarxb
safety!
The new xB should be about as quick as the 1st gens. with all that extra weight added on.
04-03-2007, 04:53 AM
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sumo size weight!
04-03-2007, 10:11 AM
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yeah, it's too bad, it goes against the whole scion name and what you imagined when you heard the word scion...just my $0.02, i bought my box a month ago new, i wondered why there were only a handful on the lot...they were leftover 06 models.didn't even know until i signed the papers!lol.point is i'm glad i got a first and the last of a true "city car".If Honda brings a small box though I'm goin back home...
04-03-2007, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dskinner
Originally Posted by Max
Originally Posted by dskinner
...I just hope they kept the weight down.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=163737
Specifically, my post here:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...429108#2429108
Which was taken from the latest brochure.
04-03-2007, 11:52 AM
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Hopefully this link will help all of you out!
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=168678
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=168678
04-03-2007, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bB2NER
Originally Posted by superboxcarxb
safety!
The new xB should be about as quick as the 1st gens. with all that extra weight added on.
In terms of performance, it's getting a 20% bump in wieght, but a 55% increase in power. I love my 1st gen, but it will be nothing in comparison to the new model. Also, keep in mind that the Camry (3200lb+) RAV4 (3300lb+) and the Highlander (3500lb+) all have much better performance times than the 1st gen xB, so the car will perform with respect.
3000lb is not a bad thing by any means, it just won't have the tossable feel that we all loved about the 1st gen model.
04-03-2007, 05:09 PM
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Boomster and Max, thanks for the links!
04-03-2007, 05:33 PM
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Guess we will wait and see. It is true that every american car eventually gets bigger and fatter. I guess thats because like BB2NER said everyone in this country seems to be moving the same way.
04-03-2007, 11:07 PM
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Scion going the wrong direction
I like think I like the new body style.
But Toyota is really screwing up by going larger, heavier and less efficient.
New xB = Current Element
Just go to Honda and get their spec sheet on the Element, it will tell us all we need to know about the 08 xB
Expect real world sub 20 mpg from the 08.
It is unheard of in automotive history to take a wildly successful model and ruin it so completely. I don't think Honda would ruin the civic line by doubling the size of its engine and building next years model on the Accord frame.
Why not make the xB a 4x4 and totally make Scion like everything else
But Toyota is really screwing up by going larger, heavier and less efficient.
New xB = Current Element
Just go to Honda and get their spec sheet on the Element, it will tell us all we need to know about the 08 xB
Expect real world sub 20 mpg from the 08.
It is unheard of in automotive history to take a wildly successful model and ruin it so completely. I don't think Honda would ruin the civic line by doubling the size of its engine and building next years model on the Accord frame.
Why not make the xB a 4x4 and totally make Scion like everything else
04-03-2007, 11:10 PM
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Well, it uses the same engine as the tC so expect similar MPGs.. nuff said
04-03-2007, 11:33 PM
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I don't know what happened to the MPG "craze". I owned a 1992 Honda Civic CX and consistantly got mid 40's with it and on long trips i got over 50 MPG!!! Now we have "fuel efficient" hybrids costing twice as much and still not achieving 50 MPG. America needs to be marketing/making smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles. And we are certainly capable of winding up our own windows and dealing with a little extra road noise for even more miles per gallon. I'm a little disappointed in the American public for not DEMANDING these things from our automakers. Bigger is not always better, just glance down at our expanding waistlines. Ok, OK, rant over, resume daily grind.