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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Once again thnx for guinea pigging these springs, I just installed mine & love them.







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The more aggressive rear drop is perfect for getting rid of that rear fender gap without going too low in the front, just the right balance between the DF's & NF's.
I will be posting my drop measurements once they settle fully, about a tank of gas worth of miles.

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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Nice! How's the ride compared to stock with those wheels? What's next? 5 axis kit? I'd like to get the kit but I don't think I can get it to work with my trailer hitch.
Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rockthebeef
Nice! How's the ride compared to stock with those wheels? What's next? 5 axis kit? I'd like to get the kit but I don't think I can get it to work with my trailer hitch.
Ride quality was a minimal sacrifice to have the look of these sized wheel/tires. It does get a little bit rough around the more ghetto side of town where the roads looks like the surface of the moon but I'm in So-Cal so most of the roads are of good quality. But on smooth roads past 25 mph, they feel & sound like stock rims. But I will say that these springs definetly improve the ride quality + the handling over stock by a significant amount IMO.

Lol, Five Axis kit is just a dream right now, this car is draining my bank account faster than the lady . I might just stray from the pack & get a different style body kit, but I think the car looks good enough for now w/o it especially after lowering it. My next step would probably be to change out the HU w/ an in dash gps, and replace all the speakers, then the clazzio seat covers.

I have a thread dedicated to my suspension setup here https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=262567 it includes my full setup and more pics if you wanna check it out.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 04:35 AM
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Okay,

So I am looking at getting the S-tech springs, and most likely the tokico shocks. I am sure these next questions I could probably answer myself, but here it goes. 1. I plan on doing the install myself, and for those who did their own: did you use a spring compressor for removal and install of the stock and new springs in the front? 2. Was that the same for the rear or does the rear just drop out once you unbolt the shocks?
In the past on some of my old cars it was different of course cause my old truck that I lowered had leaf springs in the rear. And on my other car that had struts up front I already knew I needed a spring compressor.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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Fronts: yes, you need a spring compressor.
Rears: No spring compressor needed; jack it up, unbolt the shocks, and the springs will drop right out.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rockthebeef
Originally Posted by kostonjohn
rockthebeef, did you have to cut your bump stops in the front?
Well, I don't know if I had to but after I saw how much shorter the front springs were I went ahead and cut off one section off the front bumpstops (probably about an inch). I left the rear ones alone.

Dont want to be rude...I dont understand what was written here.

rockthe beef or kostonjohn did any of you have to cut your bump stops?

Why would you cut the front bump stop if the springs were shorter and shorter to what? I just ordered some and want some knowlegde. thanks
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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It wasn't really rude man. Any good question here usually elicits a good answer. A couple things I have read are:

- You can cut the bumpstops to get back some of the suspension travel that you lost when lowering the car.

-You can keep the bumpstops the way they are in order to protect the shocks from bottoming out.

I would assume there is a balancing act between those two points that you have to deal with. I hope somebody more qualified can set this straight. Most people here are not mechanics (myself included) let alone good mechanics. But most people here are pretty handy. Take what you read here and use good judgement when deciding whether or not to do it.
Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rockthebeef
It wasn't really rude man. Any good question here usually elicits a good answer. A couple things I have read are:

- You can cut the bumpstops to get back some of the suspension travel that you lost when lowering the car.

-You can keep the bumpstops the way they are in order to protect the shocks from bottoming out.

I would assume there is a balancing act between those two points that you have to deal with. I hope somebody more qualified can set this straight. Most people here are not mechanics (myself included) let alone good mechanics. But most people here are pretty handy. Take what you read here and use good judgement when deciding whether or not to do it.
Ok I understand your logic, the strut movement.
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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For some reason I ended up ordering the H Techs last night, even though I've had my eye on the NF210s for a long time now due to their prestigious ride quality characteristics. I didn't think the spring rates would be that different from the two (and forgot to check), but apparently they are! I don't end up regretting it.
Old Aug 4, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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Just curious...how bad does it throw off the camber?
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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My best guess is not that bad since the front end can be adjusted back to spec. To the naked eye, there might be a bit of negative camber in the back, but not enough to wear out tires very rapidly.

Truth be told, I have not gotten a realignment since I switched over to the H Techs. The car tracks straighter than it ever did now. But I should really get that done someday...
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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I just got a set of H-Tech.
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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Is the general consensus that one should wait until the springs settle before getting an alignment done?
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 03:09 AM
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That is the general consensus. Most springs are advertised not to settle, but it won't hurt to wait a week or two before you get an alignment.
Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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so did you guy cut bump stops? by how many inch? I read through the paper from Tein, xB2 has to cut out 1 inch on both front.
Old Aug 8, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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Just cut off the first (smallest) nub; it will make complete sense when you see the bump stops after they come out.

End of story.
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Thanks!
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Just finished installing my H-Techs and the Hotchkis sway bars, but the gas station mechanic with the spring compressor put the Tein springs with the logo facing upside down He was being annoying and wouldn't change it around. He also cut the bump stops in half instead of cutting off the first nub.

My right rear is also a quarter inch higher at 26.5" now, so I'll see about twisting that spring around in a week or so.
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by XIII
Just finished installing my H-Techs and the Hotchkis sway bars, but the gas station mechanic with the spring compressor put the Tein springs with the logo facing upside down He was being annoying and wouldn't change it around. He also cut the bump stops in half instead of cutting off the first nub.

My right rear is also a quarter inch higher at 26.5" now, so I'll see about twisting that spring around in a week or so.
That's a bummer about the upside-down springs! Did he do it that way front and rear? It would be a pain to have to do it all over again, but if you paid for a competent job they should fix it on their dime (I would hope). I'm not sure how bad it would be to use 1/2 of the bumpstops, but if you're going to flip the springs over anyway, you might as well order a new set of bumpstops from Toyota. Did he cut the rear bumpstops too? The rear shocks don't even have to come out to install springs and sways so I'm wondering if he cut the rear too. I don't know, you might be OK...

I occasionally still measure my ride height when parked in my garage, which should be completely level. Sometimes everything's level, and sometimes I still am 1/8" higher on the rear passenger side. At least it's not 1/4" anymore - 1/8" is easier to live with. You really have to get up close to the car and give it the finger test before you notice it. From a distance it all looks good. I just don't worry about it anymore. Hopefully you have the same results.

Good luck with everything.
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rockthebeef
That's a bummer about the upside-down springs! Did he do it that way front and rear? It would be a pain to have to do it all over again, but if you paid for a competent job they should fix it on their dime (I would hope). I'm not sure how bad it would be to use 1/2 of the bumpstops, but if you're going to flip the springs over anyway, you might as well order a new set of bumpstops from Toyota. Did he cut the rear bumpstops too? The rear shocks don't even have to come out to install springs and sways so I'm wondering if he cut the rear too. I don't know, you might be OK...

I occasionally still measure my ride height when parked in my garage, which should be completely level. Sometimes everything's level, and sometimes I still am 1/8" higher on the rear passenger side. At least it's not 1/4" anymore - 1/8" is easier to live with. You really have to get up close to the car and give it the finger test before you notice it. From a distance it all looks good. I just don't worry about it anymore. Hopefully you have the same results.

Good luck with everything.
It was a disappointing $30 spent! He didn't touch the back since I did that own my own. I didn't cut anything as instructed.

I'm just going to leave the springs as they are. As long as the springs are symmetric, it's just a cosmetic thing that only I would probably notice. Plus it was somewhat of a pain in the ___ to remove. So far it handles beautifully through the corners and it's not a rough ride at all on the straightaways. I wouldn't say it feels better than stock. Just different. I'll post up a pic soon with my stock wheels.



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