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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 03:49 AM
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I was under the impression that a rear strut bar was worthless. Can anyone give me a honest answer if this is true or not?
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 03:52 AM
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yea i'm kinda curious myself... and if not, where can i get one, ASAP!?
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 04:22 AM
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Look on the recent post on frame braces, Part shippers. com has them. Its made by GT Spec. I Also have heard that the rear strut brace is just for looks .
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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i't does a lil bit , kinda neutralizes the handling, tightens up the rear end , nothin like on a coil loaded strut type but it does actually serve a purpose.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Depends on how it's mounted. I had mine custom made. Where the bar bolts to the brackets, the bolt is vertical. Because of this the bar would have flex twisting from front to back not from side to side. Also mine bolts directly to the rear shock mounts, not the top of the shock. I did have to drill 4 holes, but mine is pretty solid. It did make a small difference. Now I need sways.
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I would love to see some pics of that set up.
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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I'll try to get some pics for ya.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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I would think that the rear strut brace would serve a bigger purpose because the engine is so close to the firewall, whereas the rear is open space. If it didn't help in handling, it would still help maintain frame integrity during a collision.
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Originally Posted by hongs66
Depends on how it's mounted. I had mine custom made. Where the bar bolts to the brackets, the bolt is vertical. Because of this the bar would have flex twisting from front to back not from side to side. Also mine bolts directly to the rear shock mounts, not the top of the shock. I did have to drill 4 holes, but mine is pretty solid. It did make a small difference. Now I need sways.
This would be the correct way for mounting a rea strut tower brace. It must be bolted to the strut toewers themsleves and not use the upper rear shock bolt. There will still be a small amount of play with the shocks, and will not be a "solid" mount.
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So once again, if used on top of the struts it will be just for looks. mmm i was hoping it would have served some greater purpose
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oh it does something just not much . i may fab up a drill n bolt. darn , lol i'll use both.
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Originally Posted by RageStevens
So once again, if used on top of the struts it will be just for looks. mmm i was hoping it would have served some greater purpose
Brian, I'll try and get pics of Dave Moulton's rear bar. He cut up a Hotchkis bar and bolted it to the rear towers. He'll be up for IM this saturday.
Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by squirrel
Originally Posted by RageStevens
So once again, if used on top of the struts it will be just for looks. mmm i was hoping it would have served some greater purpose
Brian, I'll try and get pics of Dave Moulton's rear bar. He cut up a Hotchkis bar and bolted it to the rear towers. He'll be up for IM this saturday.
Any chance you could make me one? I'd paypal you the cost. I saw one on ebay, was going to buy it, but it bolted only to the top of the shock. I was afraid there would be too much stress if only attatched to the top. The way you did it sounds alllloooott better.

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Brian, you got PM.
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bBist has a center brace, what about those?

my thinking is ..just like doing intake and not doin exhaust...same with braces/suspension...why do one part and not the whole thing?

im thinking its the whole package that will make a difference and not so much one piece...however....some ONE pieces make more difference than others

for example everything ive read says the bottom sway bars make a noticeable difference
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^ oh yea, times 11tybillion. The sways make this thing a carner carver lol
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Originally Posted by squirrel
Originally Posted by RageStevens
So once again, if used on top of the struts it will be just for looks. mmm i was hoping it would have served some greater purpose
Brian, I'll try and get pics of Dave Moulton's rear bar. He cut up a Hotchkis bar and bolted it to the rear towers. He'll be up for IM this saturday.
Here ya go I have more updates to this thread to do when I get some time but here are some pics of the strut bar in the cargo area...

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...999&highlight=

enjoy...
Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy_xbox
Originally Posted by squirrel
Originally Posted by RageStevens
So once again, if used on top of the struts it will be just for looks. mmm i was hoping it would have served some greater purpose
Brian, I'll try and get pics of Dave Moulton's rear bar. He cut up a Hotchkis bar and bolted it to the rear towers. He'll be up for IM this saturday.
Here ya go I have more updates to this thread to do when I get some time but here are some pics of the strut bar in the cargo area...

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...999&highlight=

enjoy...
^^^Ask, and you shall receive!^^^

THANKS Dave!
Old Nov 24, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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i would hate to say the rear sway bar does nothing, when installing my springs , i had only the left shock unbolted, and that connecting piece wobbled up and down a good foot while the right side stayed in place. i dont have one , but im going to get one because of what i saw.
Old Nov 24, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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Like wa ssaid, it all depends on the design.

A front strut bar works because it connects two point of the chassis together. That's the key.



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