Info about Goldlines and Shocks
I just ordered a set of 2" goldlines for my xB and was curious about something. Will installing them cause my stock shocks to blow under normal driving conditions? I called Toyota, and they said no, but I wanted to get your opinion since you guys own the cars too. Also, how much of a factor is scraping? I'll only have about 4" of clearance and was wondering if that's a problem for you folks too.
I agree with Tamago, lowered springs will decrease the life of your shocks/struts to about a year (if you're lucky). Although I have heard many stories of people blowing a shock or strut in the first month after lowering, so have some cash ready for the TRDs. You will know you need new struts if you begin to hear a hollow sounding rattle coming from one of your front wheels. You can tell when the rear shocks are blown when you hear your bump stops being hit when you hit big bumps or when you have a lot of weight in the rear. Just for safe measure, unless you're really strapped for cash, I would replace the shocks/struts immediately after you install the springs (doing both at once will save you labor time). That's my experience.
Originally Posted by pdrizzle
I agree with Tamago, lowered springs will decrease the life of your shocks/struts to about a year (if you're lucky). Although I have heard many stories of people blowing a shock or strut in the first month after lowering, so have some cash ready for the TRDs. You will know you need new struts if you begin to hear a hollow sounding rattle coming from one of your front wheels. You can tell when the rear shocks are blown when you hear your bump stops being hit when you hit big bumps or when you have a lot of weight in the rear. Just for safe measure, unless you're really strapped for cash, I would replace the shocks/struts immediately after you install the springs (doing both at once will save you labor time). That's my experience.
Originally Posted by scionspecialistvegas
I have had my car, since june of 03, lowered it in july of 03, got 28,000 plus on her right now, and I am still running stock struts and springs, one of my customers, has 56,000 miles and is still running his stock springs and struts. Too many urban mythes runnig around out there. If can't speak from experiance, hold it in. The I heard from a friend who had a friend gets old. Bill
my last car's shocks lasted all of 4 months after lowering. i am speaking from personal experience. i have also replaced stock struts with KYB's on several cars after the struts went out.
oh, on that note, did you know that struts/shocks are covered under warranty FOR THE LIFE OF YOUR SCION ? (barring any modification, of course)
I have had my car, since june of 03, lowered it in july of 03, got 28,000 plus on her right now, and I am still running stock struts and springs, one of my customers, has 56,000 miles and is still running his stock springs and struts. Too many urban mythes runnig around out there. If can't speak from experiance, hold it in. The I heard from a friend who had a friend gets old. Bill
I live in vegas,where every street except las vegas blvd sucks,full of expansion joints , an hole covers, and potholes. I also have goldlines with a 2" drop. it does take some practice, and some slowing down, you cannot hit speed bumps at full speeds.
Pheonix,I a fro cochise county oringinally, lived in douglas for a long time, we used to lower cars there by cuuting springs back in the day, I am talking early '80's.
S.Florida, I also was stationed in Savana,GA where we had cobblestone streets andi had corrolla sr-5 I lowered by cutting the springs drove it for three years back forth to FT Bragg andupanddown the east coast on stock struts. I apologizefor coming off as a jerk. But i here the same stories here in vegas, maybe I hold my outh in right position to have the luck I do with struts and shocks. Bill
Pheonix,I a fro cochise county oringinally, lived in douglas for a long time, we used to lower cars there by cuuting springs back in the day, I am talking early '80's.
S.Florida, I also was stationed in Savana,GA where we had cobblestone streets andi had corrolla sr-5 I lowered by cutting the springs drove it for three years back forth to FT Bragg andupanddown the east coast on stock struts. I apologizefor coming off as a jerk. But i here the same stories here in vegas, maybe I hold my outh in right position to have the luck I do with struts and shocks. Bill
Too many urban mythes runnig around out there. If can't speak from experiance, hold it in. The I heard from a friend who had a friend gets old.
I don't like being told I don't know what I'm talking about when I do, so please, keep your comments to yourself. A sponsor should be humble and informative, not speaking down to people.
I was wrong about the off candor comment, and i apologize, my car is always loaded, I go 280 and I am the smallest in possey. I have light wieght 17" with no profiles 40's. I cut my rubber snubber down when I installed my springs and I have lowered about 20 scions andso far not a single blown strut. I guess I just have good luck then. Bill
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Worst case scenario, you can swap your springs to stockers or pay for it ($60 if you shop around), and have the factory replace the shocks under warrantee. Pay another $60 and you are back to being lowered. Cheating? Yes, but $120 is cheaper than a new set of shocks/struts. If you swap the spring yourself, it will be free. I'm not sure if you'll need to realign the wheels again. . . probably. . . tack on $40. . . not expensive by any means (considering the alternative).
I wrote to GoldLine and asked them about this.
Here's the response I got from Jeff at GoldLine:
Here's the response I got from Jeff at GoldLine:
Gold Line (along with most other spring companies) design their product to
work with factory shocks/struts. Not to say that overall ride/handling
quality cant be improved by going to an aftermarket shock/strut.
work with factory shocks/struts. Not to say that overall ride/handling
quality cant be improved by going to an aftermarket shock/strut.
Unless the aftermarkets are guaranteeing a certain lifespan, who's to say they won't blow out as well. I don't see the logic of taking out perfectly good shocks and struts to replace with ones that may not last any longer. Are the aftermarket shocks and struts designed to work with a drop?




