GREAT IDEA for Stock Steelie PEOPLE!!!
I desperately need the following measurements for making custom chrome center caps for my stock steelies (with chrome rings and chrome bolts already)....I like the simple "old school" look......and saving money and softer ride with stock set up......
a) the diameter of the center hole opening of the wheel
b) the distance of the top of the protruding axle from the surface of the wheel
c) the distance (through the center of the wheel) between the center of two opposite facing bolts
I will make in effect a "top hat" type of cap that goes behind the wheel (and fits over the bolts before placing the wheel on) and sticks out through the center after mounting the wheel- hiding the ugle axle.....
Planning on making a few sets if anyone is interested....with a simple 3 ring bulle eye design on the top (acid etched into the chrome plated brass sheet metal that the caps are to be made in and then th rings are painted with black enamel - clean)
SO....please please get me those measurements immediately...GREATLY appreciate it.....Bradford
a) the diameter of the center hole opening of the wheel
b) the distance of the top of the protruding axle from the surface of the wheel
c) the distance (through the center of the wheel) between the center of two opposite facing bolts
I will make in effect a "top hat" type of cap that goes behind the wheel (and fits over the bolts before placing the wheel on) and sticks out through the center after mounting the wheel- hiding the ugle axle.....
Planning on making a few sets if anyone is interested....with a simple 3 ring bulle eye design on the top (acid etched into the chrome plated brass sheet metal that the caps are to be made in and then th rings are painted with black enamel - clean)
SO....please please get me those measurements immediately...GREATLY appreciate it.....Bradford
I see a problem...
With older wheel/hub designs this was a fairly common application. The Scion's, however, are "hubcentric" designs as opposed to, for example, the Land Cruisers which are "lugcentric."
This means that while the Land Cruiser (I choose them 'cause I've had a few) allows that quite easily, a properly fitted Scion wheel (like the stock steelies) fits the center hub very closely and will not allow anything else placed around the hub projection through the hole.
The hub is 54.06 mm outside diameter, and the centerhole in the wheel is allegedly 54.10 mm diameter. That's a two-hundredths clearance all the way around...could be less with standard tolerances...
Something to fit a Scion's stock wheels would have to fit the front of the wheel and not go through its center hole. Perhaps a tophat designed to fit in front of the wheel and held on by the 4 x 100 spaced lug nuts could be designed, but then one is getting into the proper fit and function of the lug nuts against the wheel...
A pretty problem...
With older wheel/hub designs this was a fairly common application. The Scion's, however, are "hubcentric" designs as opposed to, for example, the Land Cruisers which are "lugcentric."
This means that while the Land Cruiser (I choose them 'cause I've had a few) allows that quite easily, a properly fitted Scion wheel (like the stock steelies) fits the center hub very closely and will not allow anything else placed around the hub projection through the hole.
The hub is 54.06 mm outside diameter, and the centerhole in the wheel is allegedly 54.10 mm diameter. That's a two-hundredths clearance all the way around...could be less with standard tolerances...
Something to fit a Scion's stock wheels would have to fit the front of the wheel and not go through its center hole. Perhaps a tophat designed to fit in front of the wheel and held on by the 4 x 100 spaced lug nuts could be designed, but then one is getting into the proper fit and function of the lug nuts against the wheel...
A pretty problem...
Tomas is right...and I don't have the wheel in front of me.....the last post was something about 2 screw holes by the lug nuts? Where are they exactly? I am now in a place where I can fabricate these caps cheaply and with high quality....if I could come up with a working design....
always could tap 2 screw holeson the face of the wheel, but that aint that easy (to attach the caps).....
so....any concrete suggestions would be great and helpful and result in a few sets for everybody....maybe a few designs on the top of the cap....plain, bulls eye...Japanese characters???
Help me solve this problem and we all could benefit (Steelie Peeps anyway....)....thanks, Bradford
always could tap 2 screw holeson the face of the wheel, but that aint that easy (to attach the caps).....
so....any concrete suggestions would be great and helpful and result in a few sets for everybody....maybe a few designs on the top of the cap....plain, bulls eye...Japanese characters???
Help me solve this problem and we all could benefit (Steelie Peeps anyway....)....thanks, Bradford
Well, for at least right now I'm a 'steelie peep' so it would be to my advantage to see something like this work.
IIRC there have been some '4 x 100' Toyota cars that HAVE had factory center caps - some of the 'hubcap' places on-line have replacement OEM caps for them.
Thing is I have NO idea how Toyota went about attaching them.
Whatever Toyota did was probably the easiest solution...
For example scroll down on this page...
http://www.hubcaps.org/corolla.html
I really don't have a whole lot I can add.
Heck, if *I* were to "design" it, the solution would probably involve copious amounts of epoxy somewhere along the line.
(BTW, I don't know what happened to Sid's pics, but this was a nice solution, too [later in thread]).
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ight=fence+cap
IIRC there have been some '4 x 100' Toyota cars that HAVE had factory center caps - some of the 'hubcap' places on-line have replacement OEM caps for them.
Thing is I have NO idea how Toyota went about attaching them.
Whatever Toyota did was probably the easiest solution...
For example scroll down on this page...
http://www.hubcaps.org/corolla.html
I really don't have a whole lot I can add.
Heck, if *I* were to "design" it, the solution would probably involve copious amounts of epoxy somewhere along the line.
(BTW, I don't know what happened to Sid's pics, but this was a nice solution, too [later in thread]).
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ight=fence+cap
great response....any other ideas? Speciifc solutions? I can fabriacate most anything right now over here with a clear plan.....talk to me.....Steelie Peeps!!
If Toyota can do it in Celicas, we should be able to do it on Scions.
Here's a Scion xB wheel with Celica hubs Photoshopped on...

(Not saying these are especially nice looking, but...)
Here's a Scion xB wheel with Celica hubs Photoshopped on...

(Not saying these are especially nice looking, but...)
Originally Posted by Tomas
If Toyota can do it in Celicas, we should be able to do it on Scions.
Here's a Scion xB wheel with Celica hubs Photoshopped on...

(Not saying these are especially nice looking, but...)
Here's a Scion xB wheel with Celica hubs Photoshopped on...

(Not saying these are especially nice looking, but...)









