I know many of you feel the stock brakes are just fine for this car, but believe me, once you drive a car with a bigger and better set up, you will more than appreciate it. Besides all the gains in the aesthetic department, the increase in stopping power and reduction of unsprung weight is well worth the price of admission alone.

As some of you already have seen my xB, its already adorned with 18" wheels and a 6 piston 13" brake set up. After spending some time at D1 on Saturday and speaking with my buddies over at Mackin, I have decided to downsize both the wheels and the brakes and put a lightweight and more performance oriented set up in.

Basically, what I am asking here is if there would be any interest in the system I designing for my own car. Its going to consist of a huge forged 4 piston caliper mated to a 12.2" 2 piece rotor. The rotor is still considerably larger than the OEM rotor. The caliper is also much larger and 4 piston but because its forged, weighs practically nothing. The total package will drop about 8-10 pounds from each side!!! This set up will fit under a 16" wheel!!!!

If I can get about 4 or 5 people in on this, I can get the entire package which includes calipers, rotors, hats, brackets steel braided lines, pads and all the hardware for about $900. I can also offer the rotors in any pattern as well. As always, with all my stuff, the rotors are plated too to resist corrosion. As well as the hats and the brackets.

Here is a link to what the kit will look exactly like. Same style rotors and exactly the same calipers. Yes, they are that big.

Let me know what you guys think as well as any concerns or information you need.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288962011

 

 

 

I'd be interested in some 11-11.75" brakes to fit under some 15" wheels
I don't really want to go 16" wheels on my xB because I want to keep the rim weight low (8-12lbs per wheel)

Any chance of offering a kit like that?


Jason

 

to me the brake works fine....i meant its not a fast car....
lets when u hit traffic, even u can brake in a short distance, but people behind you CANT...

dont flame me...its just what i thought...

some guy rear-ended my eclipse two years ago, cost $9500 damage to fix it... :twisted:

 

Nice stuff, and extra-nice that they'll fit within 16s...but now for the $1 Million Question: Where's the uprated master cylinder to handle the additional pistons, surface area, hydraulic requirements of these larger, higher-performance parts,, etcetera?
All components/aspects of brake systems being so intertwined, the stock master cylinder will obviously be made inadequate in the face of such hi-spec companion pieces (or in the best case scenario, certainly not capable of delivering performance on par with the calipers posted here).
Also might wanna consider an adjustable bias to further compensate for differences in system and allow for track-style fine-tuning of such a track-based mod...

All of that said, I think if you hook up a nice master cylinder that'll work with the rest of the parts you described, you could definitely move some units.

 

The scion is actually a pretty quick car. I plan to prove that as well. One of the reasons i am going this route is to start autocrossing the car. I already have an s2000 that i road race so i thought this would something to do with the box.

Regardless of what you think or how you feel about being rear ended, I would still like to be the one who decides how short of a distance I can stop in. I can tell you that in the wet weather or in emergency situations, there is no comparison

But hey, to each their own. For me, brakes and suspension are something that get done on every car i own

 

Slow down

Everything is accounted for. You dont need to upgrade the master or add any type of additional proportioning tool to the system. I have already done the math. Im currently running a 6 piston caliper from Wilwood with a 13" rotor...





I know what the stock system is capable of pushing out. This isnt the first kit I have out together. I know a lil about brakes ;)

 

900 for 4 or 5 people but how much for 1 person if it was in the next few months?

thanks!

 

I believe you that you've done a few brake kits - your connections (Mackin, Wilwood) are impeccable...

But I too have some familiarity with brake systems and you can't really be suspicious of my master cylinder Q's & concerns...the stock Scion system's understandably small and the system you're selling is, well, not. I was just inquiring as to the sitch with the master cylinder. I'm curious/interested...can you please PM me the "math" or any other research/release info you've got on this set-up? Thanks!

 

You are right. I cant blame you for being suspicious. Believe it or not, the stock master is not as small as you think. As well, the piston diameters in the calipers that I use are not that large either ;)

Shoot me a phone call at the shop when you are free and I ll gladly fill you in on all the info and specs you need. If you want, give me your email address and I ll show you some of my other work.

Sherwin
Brake Zone
818 781 7777

 

i would love to see more people join in and if they did push down the price, thatd be awesome ,id liek soem hardcore brakes, but the lower the price th ebetter ya know?!

 

maybe i missed something :oops:

what brand parts are we talking about???
rotors, calipers, pads, brackets

 

Big break setups are great.... When theres a purpose. I would see spending the money If I had some huge rims, or too much power, or had 2g's burnin a whole in my pocket. I just can't justify it for myself, but for those of you that do it, and do it right-- Much Props.

 

Are you planning to also make a 5 lug conversion?

 

a larger braking system would help if the car had more power, but as of right now its not nessacery. it would be a waste of money right now until or when your car has at least 50% more power.if you ad the turbo it wouldnt be a bad idea but how many peolple actually have it on there car?

 

Yeah, I have a set of nice 15 inch wheels and now that I can see the brakes they do look small. Do you know if your kit will work on 15's? I'd love a little more power in the brakes but, I also think the direction you are headed in might be overkill for the general populace. Any chance of just a bigger/lighter set-up for a daily driver, I would think that might be pretty popular...just a thought.

Al.Truistic
aB

 

is it just the front brakes or all of them...switching the drums would look nice...and the wilwoods i know you cant use the ebrake anymore. but im down for an upgrade....its hard to stop with 19's on but if it is a smaller rotor its time for some lightweight volk TE-37s 17 inch

 

Really, does the addition of a bigger brake kit keep the emergency brake from working and how so? Does this mod void the warranty?

Al.Truistic
aB

 

Just adding larger wheels hurts your braking performance drastically. The extra rotational mass is a killer. Take a look at those stupid H2s on 24s. They cant stop worth a crap. Talk about a safety hazard. So its not only about the power your pushing. You can never be too safe.

We are going to be doing a street version rear kit also meaning that it will retain e brake function. The kit available right now from wilwood, which actually isnt available anymore, loses e brake capability.