Ok I want your opinions on which spring you would choose between Eibach Sportlines or Tein S-techs.

Let me just mention that Eibach Sportlines drop the box between 1.75" to 2.3" both front and rear & Tein S-Techs drop the box 1.7" in the front and 1.5" in the rear.

Thanks for your help.

 

tein.

how many times will this be done?

 

We sell both product lines... Both are inspired from track testing and use, both are reasonably priced. However on most cars despite what Eibach says their rear drop height is it always seems to look lower in the rear than the front which gives the impression of a loaded car. WE used the TEINS on our xB and i don't have anything but good to say about them.

BTW TEINs drop on the S-tech is 1.8 front and 1.6 in the rear as its written in their 05 catalog, however their site states your drop dimensions.

 

i don't think you can go wrong with either one. just buy the cheaper one. they're both good brands.

 

Thanks hnefrdo, I think you are right. I was a little concerned about the Teins not sitting completly level since the drop in the front and rear are different. But I have a guy in town that can give me a killer Deal on the Tein S-techs which would bet $80.00 to $100.00 cheaper than the Eibach's. On the other hand I really wanted a 2" drop and not really sure how green springs would go with a yellow box....

 

A 2" in drop your not gonna really see the springs less you look in the rear. if your just trying to make a driveway grader out of it look up the HKS spring kit.. i think its 2.3 front and 2.0 rear.

The reason why the drops aren't the same is because there differant heights in the original springs as wel;las the Spring perches themselves. so theres less coils and a higher perch in the rear than in the front. seeing the front is what ideally takes the abuse and needs the increased spring and strut travel for both weight and road conditions.

 

I'm not really wanting to go with the Rake look. I was wanting it to be level all around. Last night I measured the height of the wheel wells to the highest point from the ground and both front and rear measured at 26-1/4". I would like for it to sit level regarless what springs I go with. Now I am just curious how the performace differs between the two. The only thing I can go by is what is in that sticky thread on the info of all the springs with the spring rates. knowing that the higher the spring rate the stiffer the ride. I have taken a ride in a couple friends boxes, one had tein and the other had Goldlines. They both seemed to feel good. Granted I was just riding as a passenger and the ride was a lot better than stock.

 

While driving as a passenger is kinda nice, its not the same as driving yourself. A spring can dramatically effect not only the way the vehicle handles but the confidence of the driver and his abilities as well. Unless you have the wheel and control its really hard to judge that.
As far as measuring the ground clearence which is what you did. to check the actual drop of the vehicle itself you would want to measure from the center of the wheel to the lip of the fender. this will give you the accurate drop because the car is designed to sit level regardless of body cladding lines or height differances in the Spring perch areas. despite the look of a raked vehicle you have to remeber that the rear right side is what helps stabalize the front dr side. + payload increase is neccisary so again the extra 1/2 coil and 200lbs more weight ability comes into play. also think about weight transfer. everytime you get a spirited driving moment the high spring rate will help keep the front wheels down giving you better traction and less weight transfer to the rear. theres more than just looks involved with a Price tag attached.
Although not possible with just progressive rate springs but with adj.perches or coilovers corner weighting a vehicle to the driver shows alot of differances in how the vehicle sits, drives, and corners. 108 hp or 480 hp... if you can't keep it to the ground its worth Nothing!

Just somethings to think about during your purchase. I'm sure you'll get whats important to you.

 

Totally agree.

I have yet to see Eibach's on any car that doesn't look like it is trying to take off into the sky (if you've got pictures that show otherwise, by all means share them. I am just telling you what I've sen on Jettas, Civics, Accords, S-10s, blahblahblah....although I haven't seen them on any Scions, yet).

So, if you want to avoid the raked look--and I assume that means ESPECIALLY the reverse raked look--I'd say delete Eibach from the consideration list.

 

TEIN S-techs. I had EiBachs on my Matrix and hated them. This was when I first started modding again back in 2002. I switched to TEINs and regretted buying the EiBachs.

 

Yea that Reversed raked look is definetly not what I'm looking for. Plus I have never seen a box with Eibach Sportlines on it. I really wouldn't want to order Eibach's if I couldn't see them on a box before hand anyway.

 

i'd say go with Tein S... people who've had them like them (the same can't be said for the eibachs)... but most importantly, they're just cheaper overall by about 70-80$. A slight rake shouldn't be too bad... when the car is loaded it should even out no?

Oh also I don't know about the discrepency between the catalog and the website. However, if you go by website stats... the drop difference between the two springs isn't very great at all. TEIN actually measures in mm, and then converted the numbers to inches. the actual drop is difference is only 4 mm (42mm front, 38 mm back). if you do the conversion yourself.. it works out to
1.65" front and 1.50" rear. so the actual difference is only .15" not .2"