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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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Ex-Toyota boss charged in F1 spy scandal

In addition to reports that Gustav Brunner is implicated in the Toyota-Ferrari spy scandal, it has been confirmed that former F1 principal Ove Andersson has also been charged.

Prosecutors in Cologne, home of Toyota's F1 team, contend that former aerodynamics boss Rene Hilhorst is also involved, as well as ousted chief designer Brunner.

All three no longer work at Toyota.

The case, which dates back several years, hinges around ex-Ferrari workers who allegedly stole software from the Maranello team and used it to test aerodynamic data for the 2003 and 2004 Toyota single seaters.

"Toyota Motorsport has not been formally notified of the matter and does not have full knowledge of the specific issues," a team spokeswoman explained.

It is expected that a German court will hear the charges some time this year, while the former Ferrari workers in question will be tried under Italian law.

The team spokeswoman added: "Toyota Motorsport would like to stress that the charges have not been brought against the company."

Andersson led Toyota into F1 in 2002, and remained in charge in '03.
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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BAN TOYOTA IN F1!!!! Like they did in rally

they stole software from the Maranello team and used it to test aerodynamic data for the 2003 and 2004 Toyota single seaters....Cheaters
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Who cares..what's important here is that Fernando Alonso has one the first win in the first race of the year. ALONSOMANIA BABY !!!!!!!!
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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like biggie said mo money mo problems...
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Man, Toyota has a history of cheating in motor sports. Dirty cheaters.
Old Mar 13, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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Where is this so called "technology" in the xB? lol
Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Torsion beam rear suspension. Straight from the F1 cars!
Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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They should void all Toyota results 03 and 04.......oh wait......

Just goes to show that money isn't everything in F1.
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Originally Posted by wibblywobbly
They should void all Toyota results 03 and 04.......oh wait......

Just goes to show that money isn't everything in F1.
LOL! Money and Cheating can't buy you points! oh well.
Old Mar 13, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Caught with their hands in the cookie jar...
I guess they figured if you hire the people, "their" figures out should be included in the hired/purchase price. Guess not...
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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You guys all diss Toyota yet we all own one
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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I think they are against cheating......
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Pardon me for asking,but whatever happened to "innocent untill proven guilty"?
Also,one must keep in mind that there are a lot of political and legal games played in the world of F1 racing and these accuastions should be taken with a grain of salt.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Yeah, I doubt the guys working with the F1 cars aren't the guys pumping out Corollas and Camrys. They definitely aren't the guys selilng them, I can vouch for that!
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Toyota has a history of cheating and "influencing rules" to their benefit in motorsports though. Even though I own them, I have a hard time being a fan. At some point one has to wonder, if this is their motorsport culture, "how much of this comes from corporate?" Is this how they do business in their company? Is the tC technology stolen from the Colbalt?!
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But now they are in NASCAR... they will need to find new ways to cheat.....
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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LOL. At least there's no technology used in NASCAR.
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Originally Posted by superjeer
LOL. At least there's no technology used in NASCAR.
wtf
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Is this how they do business in their company? Is the tC technology stolen from the Colbalt?!
The Scion tC is based on the made for and in Europe Toyota Avensis.
http://www.toyota-europe.com/cars/ne...nsis/index.asp
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Cheating in F1?! Impossible!

Ok, if you believe Toyota's the only one cheating you're nuts. They just got caught. Which means one thing: they're crappy at hiding their tracks. I'm not say it's right, but I'm also saying racing isn't as squeaky clean as FIA would have you believe.

I wonder if that aero software can determine if the 248's rear wing deflects or not? Or at least tell you what it all it's effects are? Hmm...

Regardless, it was still a bad move.



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