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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Default Downgrading from Air to Springs.

I am looking to take my air suspension off my car and just wanted to throw some drop springs for a daily comfy ride. I have 19x7 wheels with +45offset. I figured 1.5" would be a good enuf drop? What is everyone using and liking? Let me know! Thanks!

I'll be posting a thing later if anyone wants to buy my front air struts and valves later, or PM me for details!
Old May 1, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Tein S techs, TRD, Hotchkis. Top 3 choices if I were you.
Old May 1, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Tein S techs, TRD, Hotchkis. Top 3 choices if I were you.
hmmm ok. I will look into the Tein S Techs. Thanks
Old May 1, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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i had s techs and they were nice.

i just took out my air and am riding on tein basics....
Old May 1, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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I helped a friend put on some tanabes df210s this weekend, they rode very nice.
Old May 1, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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That's funny. I'm going from springs to air while you're going opposite.
Old May 1, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hayalex6
That's funny. I'm going from springs to air while you're going opposite.
im getting tired of my scion really. Getting tired of showing it. I don't really want it anymore. I can't sell it, so I am just gonna throw springs on it and leave it as a daily now. Gonna scrape my club logo and start working on my 2000 Tacoma now. I want to go extreme, and with the xB as my daily, I am not gonna shave, paint, and go all crazy with something that i drive daily.
Old May 1, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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df210's x2...

may i ask why you're lettin the air out?

(edit: uh, I guess that got answered before I could hit submit, huh?)
Old May 1, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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sounds more like upgrading to me.... you will actually have a solid suspension carrying you!!! and if you later decide to go crazy with it, there is far more research and far better overall ride and performance without air..... air may be fun but if you look at it in a practical sense, air is one of the worst things you can spend your money on compared to full performance suspension......

anyway good choice man..... i have had df210's and now have the s-techs with Tokico HTS adjustables and you will be far more pleased with the s-techs
Old May 1, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by superfreestyle
sounds more like upgrading to me.... you will actually have a solid suspension carrying you!!! and if you later decide to go crazy with it, there is far more research and far better overall ride and performance without air..... air may be fun but if you look at it in a practical sense, air is one of the worst things you can spend your money on compared to full performance suspension......

anyway good choice man..... i have had df210's and now have the s-techs with Tokico HTS adjustables and you will be far more pleased with the s-techs
I am not looking for the best performance. Its a scion. haha. I prefer air. but since i want this is as a daily and not my show car anymore, I could care less. Air is the best thing to have in my book when it comes to all show and no go with me. If I wanted to spend my money on a full performance suspension, I wouldn't have boughten a scion in the first place, haha.

My air rode very nice actually. Once I changed the shocks in the rear of my car, it felt like a dream.
Old May 1, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sittin_Pretti_Box
Getting tired of showing it. I don't really want it anymore.
i so feel ya there i kind of feel like that about every once a 3-4 weeks

want a better car some times better as in older and a bigger engine and 3 spd auto it aint a ford or gm... amc would be nice
Old May 1, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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I hear alot of good stuff about Goldlines (2" drop) too. I will be getting these once i get my box.
Old May 1, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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Getting tired of showing it. I don't really want it anymore.
i so feel ya there i kind of feel like that about every once a 3-4 weeks

want a better car some times better as in older and a bigger engine and 3 spd auto it aint a ford or gm... amc would be nice
yeah i hear ya. i'm a minitrucker, so i can't do much else to this scion. I don't want to paint it or shave it.

I got a 2000 Tacoma that I got for free that needs to be fixed up. So I plan to get that running, bag it, body drop, shave, and paint. I want a truck i can lay out and drag and throw sparks. I just miss having a pick up.
Old May 1, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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I know how you feel. I wish I would have never gotten rid of my bagged s10. I am searching for a Taco to buy and go crazy with. Good luck.
Old May 1, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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To Sittin Pretti...

Go with the DF210s. I just installed a set on my wife's box last Friday and they ride great. She said the only time she could tell a difference was when rolling over speed bumps.

To Superfreestyle...

You are absolutely clueless. A properly engineered and implemented pneumatic suspension system can and will outperform anything else on the road. The problem is very few people look at pneumatic suspension that way. There are too may hacks out there today that treat it just like hydraulics. A simple method to raise and lower a car. And unfortunately none of the good air suspension companies have been willing to invest the time and money to develop a high end air suspension for this $15k box of ours.

When I finally get the money up to develop the custom air suspension on my wife's xB I will gladly put it up against any other suspension on the market.
Old May 1, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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^^^^woot woot
Old May 1, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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ok so I got 19x7 wheels. How much of a drop will I want? I saw that the one of the springs recommend has a 2" drop. Sounds good, but any worries about clearance with turning and such? Just let me know, thanks.
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with 19's I'm betting that lowering 2" will make you rub unless you run camber or roll the fenders.

I'd go with something around a 1.25"-1.5" drop. Maybe the Tein H-techs, or Tanabe NF210's
Old May 1, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hayalex6
with 19's I'm betting that lowering 2" will make you rub unless you run camber or roll the fenders.

I'd go with something around a 1.25"-1.5" drop. Maybe the Tein H-techs, or Tanabe NF210's
ok sounds good. i am going to a shop today to ask about springs. i think an 1.25" should be good. thanks.
Old May 1, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Sittin_Pretti_Box I have the NF210's on my box and with the monroe struts, and koni shocks it rides great.



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