xB windshield
I'm on my third windshield in less than 2 months with my xB. Is there a specific type of glass or something that is better than the crap my insurance company keeps putting back on?
I drive a ton (already 6500 miles in 2 months) so granted, I'm going to have more problems than most people. But it seems like I could save some cash by putting something in that is a little more rockproof.
Any ideas?
I drive a ton (already 6500 miles in 2 months) so granted, I'm going to have more problems than most people. But it seems like I could save some cash by putting something in that is a little more rockproof.
Any ideas?
My Fuyao was very tough and stood up to a lot of hits until it took a rock that broke BOTH layers of glass... I have a PPG in there right now, which seems more like the original - not quite as heavy and solid seeming.
(IMHO, stay away from Pilkington - I had problems with one, and I've heard of others having fit problems with them, too.)
Most recent windshield and trim-strip was ~$200.
(IMHO, stay away from Pilkington - I had problems with one, and I've heard of others having fit problems with them, too.)
Most recent windshield and trim-strip was ~$200.
Senior Member



Strictly Scionized
SL Member
DelMarVa
Scion Tuners
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 154
From: Wilmington, DE
I went through 2 very quickly also... and yes my xB decimates entire bug populations on roadtrips... but the only real solution to save the approx. $200 per windshield... keep more of a distance behind the other cars.
Believe me, I know how hard that is to do but with a giant rectangular almost vertical windshield, we don't have a lot of other options.
You could get one of those bug deflectors which is supposed to help a bit also.
Believe me, I know how hard that is to do but with a giant rectangular almost vertical windshield, we don't have a lot of other options.
You could get one of those bug deflectors which is supposed to help a bit also.
I have had My XB for about 6 months now and My windshield had a crack that I didnt know about and crack with in the 3 week of me owning it. It also doesn't help I live in the mountains in colorado.
Originally Posted by Tomas
My Fuyao was very tough and stood up to a lot of hits until it took a rock that broke BOTH layers of glass... I have a PPG in there right now, which seems more like the original - not quite as heavy and solid seeming.
(IMHO, stay away from Pilkington - I had problems with one, and I've heard of others having fit problems with them, too.)
Most recent windshield and trim-strip was ~$200.
(IMHO, stay away from Pilkington - I had problems with one, and I've heard of others having fit problems with them, too.)
Most recent windshield and trim-strip was ~$200.
Originally Posted by Tomas
My Fuyao was very tough and stood up to a lot of hits until it took a rock that broke BOTH layers of glass... I have a PPG in there right now, which seems more like the original - not quite as heavy and solid seeming.
(IMHO, stay away from Pilkington - I had problems with one, and I've heard of others having fit problems with them, too.)
Most recent windshield and trim-strip was ~$200.
(IMHO, stay away from Pilkington - I had problems with one, and I've heard of others having fit problems with them, too.)
Most recent windshield and trim-strip was ~$200.
My dealer had Genuine Auto Glass in Tacoma replace a windshield for me, their first try with a Pilkington was lousy glass and not installed correctly. I refused to accept it and they replaced it with glass by Fuyao which was excellent (seemed heavier than OEM - less rain noise on glass and took a number of hits without damage).
When the Fuyao finally had a rock shatter BOTH layers (!) Safelite (who does most glass work for my insurance company) did a good replacement using PPG glass. The PPG looks good, and is essentially identical to the OEM.
My preference is Fuyao for the actual glass and of the two outfits doing installation, Safelite was the most competent. (Safelite has a number of glass sources, one of which is Fuyao. I do not know if they will spec Fuyao if requested, but...)
(Some detail on the Genuine Auto Glass "quality" in in my blog...)
The third, the PPG installed by SafeLite, was the least expensive install, and most similar to OEM.
Take care,
Tom
When the Fuyao finally had a rock shatter BOTH layers (!) Safelite (who does most glass work for my insurance company) did a good replacement using PPG glass. The PPG looks good, and is essentially identical to the OEM.
My preference is Fuyao for the actual glass and of the two outfits doing installation, Safelite was the most competent. (Safelite has a number of glass sources, one of which is Fuyao. I do not know if they will spec Fuyao if requested, but...)
(Some detail on the Genuine Auto Glass "quality" in in my blog...)
The third, the PPG installed by SafeLite, was the least expensive install, and most similar to OEM.
Take care,
Tom
Senior Member



Music City Scions
SL Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,808
From: West TN - Land of twisty roads
26K and still on the original with only one small chip.
Just gotta stay back from vehicles ahead of you like Jugglar said! Plus it will also help with the rock chips in the front paint also!
Just gotta stay back from vehicles ahead of you like Jugglar said! Plus it will also help with the rock chips in the front paint also!
Heheheh... Well, Jethro, the first windshield got taken out by vandalism when someone tossed four chunks of concrete over a 10 foot Cyclone fence onto my poor defenseless box parked in it's carport. (I hadn't even put 500 miles on it yet.)
The most recent one was a pickup truck that zoomed by me and cut in front to get to an exit in a construction zone on the freeway. That was about a 2 1/2 inch rock that took out all layers of the windshield.
I generally give a three second folowing distance - 2 seconds if I'm pushed.
The most recent one was a pickup truck that zoomed by me and cut in front to get to an exit in a construction zone on the freeway. That was about a 2 1/2 inch rock that took out all layers of the windshield.
I generally give a three second folowing distance - 2 seconds if I'm pushed.
Senior Member



Music City Scions
SL Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11,808
From: West TN - Land of twisty roads
Wow that really sucks Thomas. All the windshield damage I've ever recieved was from following to closely and having it kicked up right into the windshield. This is why I stay far back from everything while in the box.
It seems like people like to blame the driver for the rock chips in thier car.I say BS..... I have owned many cars and trucks and have never had a problem like this and I still drive the same.I think my problem is the roads that I drive.I work construction so I drive many different roads and highways to work.It all depends on where the work is.Maybe I picked the wrong car for commuting.Or maybe just maybe there is something wrong with the design or quality of the orignal glass in the xB.I will be keeping the cracked glass on the car for awhile as its not in my line of site (yet).I will try to take the advise and give as much room as posible in the traffic I drive in.I will see what happens.
The basic problem boils down to a quite large, very vertical plate of glass whizzing down the highway at high speed with only a super-short hood to shield it from stuff kicked up from the road.
If any of those changed (windshield mounted higher, less vertical, smaller, longer hood, lower speeds) we would have less potential for damage, but we wouldn't be driving an xB...
(I've owned 28 vehicles, and the xB windshield is more prone to damage than any of the others.)
If any of those changed (windshield mounted higher, less vertical, smaller, longer hood, lower speeds) we would have less potential for damage, but we wouldn't be driving an xB...
(I've owned 28 vehicles, and the xB windshield is more prone to damage than any of the others.)


