Pulley Install (ZPI, Lightweight Crank)
#1
Pulley Install (ZPI, Lightweight Crank)
I know its ALOT, but READ EVERYTHING!
1st i would like to say, Sticky this to FAQs. YOU CANNOT DO THIS ALONE! GET A FRIEND OR SOMEONE TO HELP! It would be very hard to do alone.
this is not the easiest install for a noob to attempt.
it wasnt the hardest thing to install but it does take some know how and with this HOW TO, i hope people appreciate it and can use it to do the install theirselves.
2nd, thank you ZPI for being there to answer my calls and getting me this pulley so fast. I ordered late Friday afternoon and got it Tuesday before Noon.
HERE WE GO!
1st jack up the car! if you dont have Jack stands......GET THEM!! dont risk trying to hold the car up with a stock or aftermarket jack!.
the stock crank pulley is on the passenger side.
go ahead and take the passenger wheel off.
now you will see a small panel on the side wall. you must remove 2 Screws and like 4 caps. there are 2 of the caps that are hidden, if you dont want to get to them. you can just pull the plastic back. like shown
Now you can try to loosen the bolt on the stock pulley with hand tools but TRUST ME! they dont work out to well. put the car in gear to keep the pulley from spinning when trying to loosen.
HAND TOOLS DONT WORK WELL FOR THIS!
i recommend going to Autoparts store and getting a quick Impact set. or use a friends...or get in professionaly installed.
HERE IS WHAT I USED
Now most people dont have this, or dont wanna go out and spend this kinda money.
well i bought the Impact wrench in a set and borrowed the compressor from a nabor.
now it takes some work but i found that you should be able to get it off with about 135PSI.. also use a little bit of WD-40. spray around the back of the pulley and let set for a few minutes. it will work its way in.
dont try to pull it out just yet.
Now here is the part where you gonna need a friend.
Looking at the engine bay from the top you can see this part in the midst of the pulleys. you will need a 19mm socket head and wrench.
you will want to have your friend pull on the socket wrench as hard as he can towards the front of the vehicle. this is the tensioner bolt and will release the tension on the belts allowing you to remove the stock pulley.
Here is a side by side comparison. Holding the Stock in 1 hand and the ZPI in the other. is SIGNIFICANT!
Now, what you wanna do is place the new ZPI pulley into the belt and then have your friend pull on that tensioner bolt again so that you can get the new pulley into its place.
Keep in mind the position of the inlet where the pulley fits into the groove.
when you get it FULLY into position it will look Almost FLUSH.
make sure its straight with the rest of the pulleys aswell.
This may take some brute force because it will NOT be easy as just popping it in.
MAKE SURE ALL OF YOUR BELTS ARE ON, TIGHT , AND IN THE CORRECT POSITIONING....i cannot stress this enough.
once you are 100% sure, your ready to screw the bolt back on.
i recommend cleaning the threads 1st of any WD-40 or dirt and grime.
now, make sure you have done everything that should be done, removed and replaced before starting your car. I was not 100% about this but i did it anyways while i cleaned up the garage. Start your car and let it run about 5-10minutes before putting it all back together. make sure it runs and NO check engine light comes on.
after that time shut the car OFF. and put the plastic panel back on, then the wheels and and drop the car down from the stands. YOUR ALL DONE!
take it for a little test drive!
i take no blame for ANYTHING that you do to your vehicle, i am just helping you out!
REVIEW:
i was very excited about getting this Lightweight Crank Pulley.
ZPI has had nothing but AMAZING customer service and aftermarket parts for the Scion tC! 1st off, Thank you to Keisha who is the best person to ever have to talk to on the phone and order parts from. Kenny, Nester, Joey and Brian are all awsome!
good group of guys that will do anything they can to help a person out.
during the install it was a little hard with out having Impact tools
i would NOT attempt this without Impact tools.
should only take about 30 minutes TOPS if you have all the proper tools!
so plan ahead.
I was not expecting to get my head thrown back into my seat when accelerating but there is a noticable gain with this pulley that has a great feel to it.
from the start of 1st gear til you hit 4th gear you can feel and see the quicker acceleration on the RPMs and going down the road. im not sure of the % but it supposed to be right about 15-20% freed up acceleration. gets rid of that Parasitic drag on the car.
my friend that helped me install this has a tC also and in the passenger seat he noticed a difference, and decided he want one now.. lol
this pulley is worth the money! great product from ZPI, good quality and performance value.
thanks ZPI, look forward to more aftermarket parts from you!
1st i would like to say, Sticky this to FAQs. YOU CANNOT DO THIS ALONE! GET A FRIEND OR SOMEONE TO HELP! It would be very hard to do alone.
this is not the easiest install for a noob to attempt.
it wasnt the hardest thing to install but it does take some know how and with this HOW TO, i hope people appreciate it and can use it to do the install theirselves.
2nd, thank you ZPI for being there to answer my calls and getting me this pulley so fast. I ordered late Friday afternoon and got it Tuesday before Noon.
HERE WE GO!
1st jack up the car! if you dont have Jack stands......GET THEM!! dont risk trying to hold the car up with a stock or aftermarket jack!.
the stock crank pulley is on the passenger side.
go ahead and take the passenger wheel off.
now you will see a small panel on the side wall. you must remove 2 Screws and like 4 caps. there are 2 of the caps that are hidden, if you dont want to get to them. you can just pull the plastic back. like shown
Now you can try to loosen the bolt on the stock pulley with hand tools but TRUST ME! they dont work out to well. put the car in gear to keep the pulley from spinning when trying to loosen.
HAND TOOLS DONT WORK WELL FOR THIS!
i recommend going to Autoparts store and getting a quick Impact set. or use a friends...or get in professionaly installed.
HERE IS WHAT I USED
Now most people dont have this, or dont wanna go out and spend this kinda money.
well i bought the Impact wrench in a set and borrowed the compressor from a nabor.
now it takes some work but i found that you should be able to get it off with about 135PSI.. also use a little bit of WD-40. spray around the back of the pulley and let set for a few minutes. it will work its way in.
dont try to pull it out just yet.
Now here is the part where you gonna need a friend.
Looking at the engine bay from the top you can see this part in the midst of the pulleys. you will need a 19mm socket head and wrench.
you will want to have your friend pull on the socket wrench as hard as he can towards the front of the vehicle. this is the tensioner bolt and will release the tension on the belts allowing you to remove the stock pulley.
Here is a side by side comparison. Holding the Stock in 1 hand and the ZPI in the other. is SIGNIFICANT!
Now, what you wanna do is place the new ZPI pulley into the belt and then have your friend pull on that tensioner bolt again so that you can get the new pulley into its place.
Keep in mind the position of the inlet where the pulley fits into the groove.
when you get it FULLY into position it will look Almost FLUSH.
make sure its straight with the rest of the pulleys aswell.
This may take some brute force because it will NOT be easy as just popping it in.
MAKE SURE ALL OF YOUR BELTS ARE ON, TIGHT , AND IN THE CORRECT POSITIONING....i cannot stress this enough.
once you are 100% sure, your ready to screw the bolt back on.
i recommend cleaning the threads 1st of any WD-40 or dirt and grime.
now, make sure you have done everything that should be done, removed and replaced before starting your car. I was not 100% about this but i did it anyways while i cleaned up the garage. Start your car and let it run about 5-10minutes before putting it all back together. make sure it runs and NO check engine light comes on.
after that time shut the car OFF. and put the plastic panel back on, then the wheels and and drop the car down from the stands. YOUR ALL DONE!
take it for a little test drive!
i take no blame for ANYTHING that you do to your vehicle, i am just helping you out!
REVIEW:
i was very excited about getting this Lightweight Crank Pulley.
ZPI has had nothing but AMAZING customer service and aftermarket parts for the Scion tC! 1st off, Thank you to Keisha who is the best person to ever have to talk to on the phone and order parts from. Kenny, Nester, Joey and Brian are all awsome!
good group of guys that will do anything they can to help a person out.
during the install it was a little hard with out having Impact tools
i would NOT attempt this without Impact tools.
should only take about 30 minutes TOPS if you have all the proper tools!
so plan ahead.
I was not expecting to get my head thrown back into my seat when accelerating but there is a noticable gain with this pulley that has a great feel to it.
from the start of 1st gear til you hit 4th gear you can feel and see the quicker acceleration on the RPMs and going down the road. im not sure of the % but it supposed to be right about 15-20% freed up acceleration. gets rid of that Parasitic drag on the car.
my friend that helped me install this has a tC also and in the passenger seat he noticed a difference, and decided he want one now.. lol
this pulley is worth the money! great product from ZPI, good quality and performance value.
thanks ZPI, look forward to more aftermarket parts from you!
#4
hmm doesnt seem as hard as i thought it would be.
how much does this cost? doesnt it affect long term reliability?
edit: how much lighter is the zpi pulley compared to stock?
how much does this cost? doesnt it affect long term reliability?
edit: how much lighter is the zpi pulley compared to stock?
#5
i believe the weight for the stock pulley is 4.5 Pounds where the ZPI pulley is 1.1 Pounds.
holding 1 in each hand you feel a BIG difference.
as for pricing you should check out www.thescionstore.com
not sure if shipping is all the same or not.
as for long term. i dont think it affects it at all. unlike the NST pulley where it is actually smaller in size and you need to buy a new smaller belt. the ZPI pulley doesnt mess with the size...just weight. so it spins faster than stock, getting rid of "parasitic drag".
holding 1 in each hand you feel a BIG difference.
as for pricing you should check out www.thescionstore.com
not sure if shipping is all the same or not.
as for long term. i dont think it affects it at all. unlike the NST pulley where it is actually smaller in size and you need to buy a new smaller belt. the ZPI pulley doesnt mess with the size...just weight. so it spins faster than stock, getting rid of "parasitic drag".
#6
Originally Posted by LucidBD
i believe the weight for the stock pulley is 4.5 Pounds where the ZPI pulley is 1.1 Pounds.
holding 1 in each hand you feel a BIG difference.
as for pricing you should check out www.thescionstore.com
not sure if shipping is all the same or not.
as for long term. i dont think it affects it at all. unlike the NST pulley where it is actually smaller in size and you need to buy a new smaller belt. the ZPI pulley doesnt mess with the size...just weight. so it spins faster than stock, getting rid of "parasitic drag".
holding 1 in each hand you feel a BIG difference.
as for pricing you should check out www.thescionstore.com
not sure if shipping is all the same or not.
as for long term. i dont think it affects it at all. unlike the NST pulley where it is actually smaller in size and you need to buy a new smaller belt. the ZPI pulley doesnt mess with the size...just weight. so it spins faster than stock, getting rid of "parasitic drag".
#8
Very nice write up dude, well done
You should certainly feel faster acceleration from the new pulley,
almost everyone who installs one of these pulleys notices a difference.
Now as far as a comparison between this and the NST crank pulley from www.NonStopTuning.com here goes...
There are two benefits to aftermarket crank pulleys:
1. Light-weight aftermarket pulleys are often lighter than the stock pulley,
I believe both the NST and ZPI pulley weigh about 1lb. Less rotating mass leads to faster acceleration and better throttle responce.
2. Underdrive aftermarket pulleys slow down accessories,
By definition underdrive means to slow down. So underdrive pulleys send a little bit less HP to the accessories and more to the drive wheels.
So in theory, an underdrive crank pulley SHOULD put down more HP than just a light-weight pulley if put on a dyno.
It would be very nice to see some sort of comparison from a third party, but that will probably never happen because we probably have some
NST supporters and some ZPI supporters on this one. Doesnt really matter I guess, both are great options.
Last but not least, as far as I know both pulleys sell for under $150,
which leads to one of the best bang for the buck mods in the industry.
Best of luck to everyone
You should certainly feel faster acceleration from the new pulley,
almost everyone who installs one of these pulleys notices a difference.
Now as far as a comparison between this and the NST crank pulley from www.NonStopTuning.com here goes...
There are two benefits to aftermarket crank pulleys:
1. Light-weight aftermarket pulleys are often lighter than the stock pulley,
I believe both the NST and ZPI pulley weigh about 1lb. Less rotating mass leads to faster acceleration and better throttle responce.
2. Underdrive aftermarket pulleys slow down accessories,
By definition underdrive means to slow down. So underdrive pulleys send a little bit less HP to the accessories and more to the drive wheels.
So in theory, an underdrive crank pulley SHOULD put down more HP than just a light-weight pulley if put on a dyno.
It would be very nice to see some sort of comparison from a third party, but that will probably never happen because we probably have some
NST supporters and some ZPI supporters on this one. Doesnt really matter I guess, both are great options.
Last but not least, as far as I know both pulleys sell for under $150,
which leads to one of the best bang for the buck mods in the industry.
Best of luck to everyone
#9
Originally Posted by DuMa
i dont see pricing on scionstore.com. how much did you pay for em
It's theScionStore.com
The crank pulley is $135 + shipping. Since it's such a light package, shipping is pretty reasonable. ;)
LucidBD, great writeup.. :D
#15
Originally Posted by maximus96
excellent! what about this harmonic balancer thing and that the-lack-of-it-will-damange-the-engine-in-the-long-run business?
Paraphrasing....
"It probably won't do anything straight away to your car, but I wouldn't want to be the one buying it second hand from you in 3 years"
I won't be putting one on until someone brings out one with the harmonic balancing done correctly.
I'd rather spend an extra $100 and have something that won't destroy any and every engine part slowly.
#16
Do you mean this thread: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...87508&start=25
where he says this:
Here's the big deal if the oil pump chain breaks: the CEL lights up and you see you have no oil pressure. So you check the oil, and see it is full. So you figure, how could I have an oil pressure problem if the oil is full? Then you figure, ah! the sensor must be bad. No worries, I'll just drive over to the dealer and get a new sensor. With zero oil pressure.
Can this happen? You bet. Ever hear of the Mitsubishi Cordia? It has a rubber belt driving the oil pump. It breaks. Ever see the inside of a Cordia engine that's been driven 95 miles over winding mountain roads with no oil pressure? I have. There wasn't a single salvageable piece in that engine. After the driver arrived at her destination and shut it off, it would not restart (imagine that).
So if you lose oil pressure but your crankcase is full, don't be foolish. Shut it off, get a tow.
And 87NA, I know PLENTY of people who ran UR pulleys on their Supras and broke their engines. Wonderful to say you've not experienced it, but to say it doesn't happen is ignorance of the many failures experienced by members of the import communities.
where he says this:
Here's the big deal if the oil pump chain breaks: the CEL lights up and you see you have no oil pressure. So you check the oil, and see it is full. So you figure, how could I have an oil pressure problem if the oil is full? Then you figure, ah! the sensor must be bad. No worries, I'll just drive over to the dealer and get a new sensor. With zero oil pressure.
Can this happen? You bet. Ever hear of the Mitsubishi Cordia? It has a rubber belt driving the oil pump. It breaks. Ever see the inside of a Cordia engine that's been driven 95 miles over winding mountain roads with no oil pressure? I have. There wasn't a single salvageable piece in that engine. After the driver arrived at her destination and shut it off, it would not restart (imagine that).
So if you lose oil pressure but your crankcase is full, don't be foolish. Shut it off, get a tow.
And 87NA, I know PLENTY of people who ran UR pulleys on their Supras and broke their engines. Wonderful to say you've not experienced it, but to say it doesn't happen is ignorance of the many failures experienced by members of the import communities.
#17
Actually I'll take it back irt was Enginefier that I was paraphrasing.
For me, when two of the people who's opinions I most respect on these forums say they wouldn't touch this for a daily driver, I won't go near it.
But each to their own, you pays your money you makes your choices.
For me, when two of the people who's opinions I most respect on these forums say they wouldn't touch this for a daily driver, I won't go near it.
But each to their own, you pays your money you makes your choices.