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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:56 AM
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im gettin my tC in early november w/ the supercharger and exhaust and some of the other options that come with it and i would like to know if there is any way that i can get my supercharged tC to have the turbo shifting sound.. i love that sound...so if any1 could help me i would appreciate it thanx.


so.... does is the trd supercharger a centrifugal supercharger and the blowoff valve can make it have the turbo sound while shifting?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 03:27 AM
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im gettin my tC in early november w/ the supercharger and exhaust and some of the other options that come with it and i would like to know if there is any way that i can get my supercharged tC to have the turbo shifting sound.. i love that sound...so if any1 could help me i would appreciate it thanx.
uh isnt that site that some1 posted only for honda civics?
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depends on what kind of supercharger. if you are talking about the trd one then know.
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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yea youwould need to find one that canuse a blow off valve to make that sound. At least i think thats what you are refering to.
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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superchargers make a whining noise which i think is cool ....constant when you are accelerating...
and turbos just make that pssst after shifting.....
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Centrifugal superchargers can use a blow-off or recirc valve just like a turbo to make the popular "blow off" sound. Recirc valves have a slightly different noise (sometimes no noise at all depending on the manufacturer) because it recirculates the air back into the induction sysem. These are required with many cars using a MAF because losing metered air will cause an enriched state causing stalling when you come off boost and sometimes poor performance.

The "gobble" sound produced by the compressor surge of a turbo which doesn't use some sort of pressure relief valve is unique to the turbo. I'm guessing this isn't the sound you were looking for.
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Originally Posted by datrickster24
Originally Posted by datrickster24
im gettin my tC in early november w/ the supercharger and exhaust and some of the other options that come with it and i would like to know if there is any way that i can get my supercharged tC to have the turbo shifting sound.. i love that sound...so if any1 could help me i would appreciate it thanx.
uh isnt that site that some1 posted only for honda civics?
its just advertsed for civics...the actual piece is universal...the free gift that they are offering is just for honda civics but i wouldnt suggest using those anyway...if your that worried about it you can get ones that are advertised for scions...just search on ebay
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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That's awesome! I have the fake vis intercooler too!
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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I know that the trd supercharger is a centrifugal supercharger but why do you not need a BOV for a roots type sc. You still need to vent the built up pressure right? someone please enlighten me.
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Originally Posted by Clayton
I know that the trd supercharger is a centrifugal supercharger but why do you not need a BOV for a roots type sc. You still need to vent the built up pressure right? someone please enlighten me.
Taken from Summit Racing

Roots Vs. Centrifugal
Before we proceed, it is important to understand the different styles of superchargers that are available. There are basically three types: centrifugal, Roots, and screw-type. We’ll concentrate on the most popular, which are the centrifugal and Roots-style blowers.


Centrifugal superchargers are similar to turbochargers in many ways. However, centrifugal superchargers are actually driven by a belt off the engine, while a turbocharger is exhaust driven. Centrifugal superchargers rely on an internal impeller to step up boost. Because boost depends on how fast the impeller spins, these units generally do not create as much boost at low rpms, because the impeller is not spinning fast enough. However, if your vehicle already produces good low-end power and torque, a centrifugal blower is the best choice for maximizing high rpm power.

Roots-type superchargers, like the ones offered by Jackson Racing, are simply large air pumps. A Roots-type blower pulls in air and compresses it in the engine's cylinders. The speed at which the supercharger fills the cylinders depends on how quickly it is driven by a pulley and drive belt. The main drawback to Root-style superchargers is the consistency of the air charge. While centrifugal superchargers provide smooth, continuous airflow, the Roots blowers feed air into the engine in lumpier, inconsistent bursts, thereby slightly reducing efficiency. However, Roots-type blowers produce a flatter torque curve with linear power across the rpm range, making it the ideal choice for adding throttle response and streetable low-end power. Roots-style superchargers are also generally less expensive than their centrifugal counterparts.

Boost Review
Boost is the amount of air pressure created by the supercharger and is mainly the function of engine displacement and blower drive speed.

Because higher boost means more power, many enthusiasts look for ways to bump up their boost levels. You can increase boost by swapping out the existing supercharger pulley for a smaller pulley, which drives the supercharger faster. It is important to remember, though, that the amount of boost that you can safely run is limited by the compression ratio of your engine. Too much boost can lead to detonation, which can destroy your motor.

Many supercharger manufacturers give their unit a boost range. This is a ballpark figure of the amount of boost you can expect using the standard pulley included with the supercharger. By making some engine modifications you can assure yourself that your boost level will land on the high end of this scale—or higher.
*Cliff Notes:
Centrifugal=Boost increases with RPMs -- Roots=Boost stays the same across RPMs.
When you let off the throttle with a centrifugal charged engine, the supercharger is still making more boost, so the boost spikes. A Roots charged engine will not spike when you let off the throttle.
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by uncompiled
That's awesome! I have the fake vis intercooler too!
___, and lemme guess, you have the blow off valve shaped intake too.

save up and get a turbo kit, quit making yourself look dumb.
Old Sep 24, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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the blow off witll sound different. for example while working at axis i had the pleasure of driving some very nice cars take our scc street car challenge 350 z...it has a procharger supercharger, with a tial bov, and the mr2 which is turbo also with a tial bov. the difference in these cars is this, when letting off the gas on the z the bov stays open making a gushing noise until throttle is re-applied. on the other side of the spectrum is the mr2 it releases quickly almost sounding like a whip cracking...it is open and then shut almost imediatly.....so anyway after my rambles similar bov's will not make the same noise due to their application....i say you pass on the trd kit and go big....but thats just me

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