Have any of you bought that $500 paint treatment option offered by the dealer. I was told that Scions had no clear coat as part of thier paint job.

Should I just give the thing a few coats of wax. or should I pay them $500 for that teflon thing

Scions come with clearcoat. All cars do. Who told you? The dealer? $$$

It only cost the dealer $10-15 for that "teflon" "clearcoat." Dont do it!!

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It was the finance lady. She might not even know what a clear coat is.
So Scions are the same kind of paint application as a normal Toyota then?

yes

Don't know for sure about the clearcoat, but I know there is no wax. I mean NO WAX, NO BEADING NO WATER REPELLING COATING AT ALL. In fact I think they put bug attracting coating on my PW XB. And Them suckers embedded themselves into the windowshield. had to use some good glass cleaner tonight, the stuff in the squirters didn't help. And while I'm thinking about it, Aren't those squirters the coolest!
Try them for the first time in the middle of the night half asleep going down a dark road. WOW!
Agent Orange in the Space Box

So should I just give this a couple health coats of wax then. Fresh from the dealer.

yes

i got it for my xb, but because it warranties the stuff scion doesnt warranty, like fading of paint and stuff and industrial fallout. i work at a foundry and another is a block or so from my place. so it covers the crap in the air from the foundry

Is all it basically is is a wax. I got it when I bought my Type-R and they gave me the bottle, all it was was a wax. Save the money and buy Zaino. You'd be better off in the long run. Just my $.02.

she is on crack...if it had no clear coat it would look like those old dull muscle cars.

i got it for my xb, but because it warranties the stuff scion doesnt warranty, like fading of paint and stuff and industrial fallout. i work at a foundry and another is a block or so from my place. so it covers the crap in the air from the foundry

I can't vouch for it covering industrial fallout, but anytime you got fading paint within 5 years/60 miles on your box (or any toyota) it's covered by the manufacturer under the anti-perforation warranty that comes with each of the vehicles...That warranty includes fading/oxidized paint, rust, and any cracking or bubbling one might encounter in their paint as well :D

DAN

In the long run, you are likely to be unhappy with any dealer-applied clear-coat. For a coating to be effective, it must be applied to a _very_ clean and dry surface that has been prepared properly. What are the chances of an average dealer employee making sure that every single surface on the car is clean and dry before proceeding? Cars generally arrive at the dealership rather dirty after their long trip from Aichin. All they have to do is miss one spot and the coating (if it is like clearcoat) will start to peel from that spot.

Luckily, most of the dealer-applied coatings are little more than wax. They don't do anything more than wax, but at least they won't get cloudy and peel, and empty the customer's wallet.

i got it for my xb, but because it warranties the stuff scion doesnt warranty, like fading of paint and stuff and industrial fallout. i work at a foundry and another is a block or so from my place. so it covers the crap in the air from the foundry

I can't vouch for it covering industrial fallout, but anytime you got fading paint within 5 years/60 miles on your box (or any toyota) it's covered by the manufacturer under the anti-perforation warranty that comes with each of the vehicles...That warranty includes fading/oxidized paint, rust, and any cracking or bubbling one might encounter in their paint as well :D

DAN

I don't know if your talking about buying an additional clearcoat/warranty package but I understood the corrosion/preforation warranty to mean rust that penetrates the metal and not fading paint. I don't think that paint deterioration is covered would be covered unless you purchase a sealant package which is usually a polymer or acrylic coating. I have also never heard of a dealer offering just a wax protection and if they are, that is a huge rip-off.

They said the coating was a teflon. not sure what catagory that would go in.

They said the coating was a teflon. not sure what catagory that would go in.

Probably "snake oil!" Teflon is a great anti-friction material for sliding surfaces, but it isn't all that good at taking UV exposure.

Don't do it! That Teflon coating is a load of crap. All they do is wax your car.

When I bought my Matrix they told me they would "throw in" the teflon coating, but when I checked my final paperwork, sure enough $499 was on there. And when I took delivery, I could still see some of the left over wax on my bumper!

I didn't fall for it when I got my xB. Besides, DuPont sells Teflon wax now. You can find it at Pep Boys, and Wal-Mart. It's really thick wax and takes some elbow grease to buff off, but I'm sure you could do a better job applying it than some guy that works at the dealership.

Trust me, it's not paint, or coating, or any special chemical... It's just wax. You're better off waxing it yourself.

best types of wax? and where to buy for a good deal

Just got the armor all paint sealant put on my xB. Several people told me I should get this it was about $800.00. Person at the dealer said would never have to was the car and be careful not put any wax on the car. What does everyone think? I think I got ripped

I say stay far away from any of these deals from the dealers. I believe they are just doing a crappy job of waxing your car and changing you hundreds for it. I highly doubt they prep the surface of the paint properly to do a good wax job.

Just got the armor all paint sealant put on my xB. Several people told me I should get this it was about $800.00. Person at the dealer said would never have to was the car and be careful not put any wax on the car. What does everyone think? I think I got ripped

How long is the warranty? It should cost approximately $100 per year of warranty. IMO. Did they give you anything else included like Undercoating or a Fabric Protectant?

My "clear coat" came free with maintenance package my dealer offered. Got it for the unlimited unscheduled oil changes baby, yeah.

I got that dealer protectant thing...
It was more of an extended warranty i think. If the paint fades, naturally chips(?), and rusts, it is covered for as long as i own the car.
Plus, it is transfered to any other Toyota i buy
For example, i have the dealer protectant now, if i were to trade in my tC for a new Toyota, they would put the "protectant" on my new car for "free".
So it cant be THAT much of a rip-off if they gaurentee that for life. right?

It's NOT a clearcoat, but a clearcoat sealer. It goes on just like wax, so just seeing waxlike residue on your car doesn't mean they only waxed it.

I used to apply these packages when I worked at a dealer. The full package was Paint sealant, scotchguarding the interior and undercoating. When I did your package, you got a good job, but it's only as thorough as the person doing it.

The paint sealant worked very well. Of course you still have to wash it and it's not inpenetrable. It definitely lasts longer than wax, I know our guy that did in-house body work hated it cuz it took extra effort to strip it when painting over a surface that had been treated.

The reason you are paying so much is
1) its almost pure profit for the dealer and the dealer usually sets the price
2) THE WARRANTY!

If you're not a take it to the dealer type of person, don't get it. If you don't mind giving up your car, dealing with the hassles, keeping on their case to get what you paid for, etc. then it may be worth your while. Something looks bad and doesn't wash off - take it in. I would never exercise the warranty unless it was major so it isn't worth it to me. And you can get similar products on the market, but you're on your own...

The guarantee is for the life of the car, and I was told by other people that it was high for the price but it should be good in the long run. Who knows