How's this for brakes?
the above is at http://www.sciongeneration.com/
the only thing iffy is do i want the Axxis Ultimate pads which are kinda dusty, or Hawk HPS pads. And i would like Stop-Tech rotors instead of powerslot rotors also.
the only thing iffy is do i want the Axxis Ultimate pads which are kinda dusty, or Hawk HPS pads. And i would like Stop-Tech rotors instead of powerslot rotors also.
I personally am not a fan of stainless steel lines. They only improve brake pedal feel, not stopping distance or brake fade. The fact that the tC has a brake booster I think takes the essential purpose out of the steel lines as they would be used to modulate brake feel in the pedal, yet with a booster, you can't do much modulation. As long as you know that, go for em.
Also, the ultimate pads are pretty harsh on the rotors. They will put major stress on the rotors and be very dusty. Really only necessary on the track IMO. BUT, you will like the setup that you have above regardless of what I have mentioned.
Also, the ultimate pads are pretty harsh on the rotors. They will put major stress on the rotors and be very dusty. Really only necessary on the track IMO. BUT, you will like the setup that you have above regardless of what I have mentioned.
Axxis Ultimates are NOT harsh on rotors and are NOT to be used on track. They are a high performance street pad that relies mostly on adherent friction as opposed to abraisive friction which is why a thorough bed-in procedure is imperative to their optimal performance.
For the brake lines, they will still help modulation and feel even with a booster since the issue is flex in the factory rubber lines. Decreasing the amount of compliance in the system will help to improve responsiveness and redue the time it takes for the pressure from the booster to the calipers themselves. Just about every car on the road these days uses a booster and most see improvements from SS lines, especially as the car gets older and the rubber lines deteriorate.
For the brake lines, they will still help modulation and feel even with a booster since the issue is flex in the factory rubber lines. Decreasing the amount of compliance in the system will help to improve responsiveness and redue the time it takes for the pressure from the booster to the calipers themselves. Just about every car on the road these days uses a booster and most see improvements from SS lines, especially as the car gets older and the rubber lines deteriorate.
thanks Instigator! your name has come up a lot on SL as a very knowledgable guy. So i might as well ask you for your recommendations.
what would you do (as in brands) for rotors/pads/fluids, and would you do ss lines also?
what would you do (as in brands) for rotors/pads/fluids, and would you do ss lines also?
Well, I will always recommend StopTech since its where I work but after using most of our prodcuts myself I do have good knowledge of them.
For a daily driven car, dont worry about spending extra on the Motul brake fluid. Something like Valvoline SynPower will hande aggressive street driving and still be resistant to boiling and cost much less. For pads, the Axxis Ultimates are great but can be a little noisy and dusty. Recently we installed new lines and pads on KINGxOFxSKA's tC. We used StopTech lines, Valvoline SynPower and pads offered by our parent company Centric Parts called PosiQuiet Ceramic. Pedal feel improved noticeably and bite was better than stock with a higher temperature range. I dont remember what my tC felt like with stock pads or Axxis Ultimates in the stock calipers but I was impressed with the feel of the PosiQuiets after a bed in cycle.
Im sure if you PM KINGxOFxSKA, he will let you know how its all working out since he has had the parts on for a few weeks now.
For a daily driven car, dont worry about spending extra on the Motul brake fluid. Something like Valvoline SynPower will hande aggressive street driving and still be resistant to boiling and cost much less. For pads, the Axxis Ultimates are great but can be a little noisy and dusty. Recently we installed new lines and pads on KINGxOFxSKA's tC. We used StopTech lines, Valvoline SynPower and pads offered by our parent company Centric Parts called PosiQuiet Ceramic. Pedal feel improved noticeably and bite was better than stock with a higher temperature range. I dont remember what my tC felt like with stock pads or Axxis Ultimates in the stock calipers but I was impressed with the feel of the PosiQuiets after a bed in cycle.
Im sure if you PM KINGxOFxSKA, he will let you know how its all working out since he has had the parts on for a few weeks now.
Just to let you know hawk brake pads aren't really good to the ears.....they will make a lot of noise when your stopping but then again they stop you pretty much on a dime. IMO the noise just shows how good of a brake pad it is and how well it's stopping you.
erik FTW with brake knowledge. he helped me alot with my rotora bbk install. so take his advise, he wont steer ya wrong.
erik... my brakes are bitting good, but i think i need to re-bed them. is it ok do do that after ive been driving on them for a few thousand miles now? i dont see why it would hurt... but would it help?
erik... my brakes are bitting good, but i think i need to re-bed them. is it ok do do that after ive been driving on them for a few thousand miles now? i dont see why it would hurt... but would it help?
Originally Posted by amdforever
Sry, brake noob here, what do you guys mean by "bed-in" on the brakes? Is that similar to the breakin period or something?
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