I emailed Seibon about some carbon fiber doors for the xB. our doors may not weigh THAT much but having carbon fiber doors can help quite a bit on weight reduction.

Seibon Carbon will do it but they need atleast an order of 20 sets or pieces.

problem is, we have front and rear doors... so if you wanted both pair of doors, a group buy would be needed for both 20 pairs of front doors and 20 pairs of rear doors from what i'm gathering...

BUT, they were not completely specific on the 20 pieces part. they just said 20 pieces. so it may be possible that only 5 pairs of front doors and 5 pairs of rear doors are needed for a group buy.

each pair could range from $600-1,700 possibly because of the window frame our doors have. i'm not entirely sure, but i'll try checking on it.

anyone interested? i'm going to check to see if 5 pairs of both is enough or not.

 

How much would it be a person if they did the TC too? I am sure that 20 people on here want carbon fiber doors!!! I know our doors weigh a lot, too.

 

i'm sure you TC riders are probably looking at the 1,000-1,700 range because your doors are pretty hefty and long. thier size sort of reminds me of Supra doors which in general are anywhere from 1,200-1,600 on the prices i've seen.

 

I am fine with that

 

found soem interesting facts about CF doors too... and i somewhat would feel safer with them.

carbon fiber, when it breaks, basicly turns into a net which in this case, if you were to get T-boned in a situation where you WOULD survive, having crbon fiber doors are probably smarter to have then metal doors. metal can rip and make sharp and nastey points when it's been damaged and can rip you to shreads or stab the crap out of you while carbon fiber would simply turn into a net and would leave you with bumps and bruises and maybe at most a broke bone which is MUCH easier to manage then being gashed open...

 

carbon fiber door is not safer than the oem doors in a side impact...... cars are designed to have nothing sharp go into the car cabin for the mosr part. The metal also guides the impact to certain crush zones and reinforcements. I guarantee you that if you had cf doors and got side swiped your insurance would say they were for off road use only and not cover you.

 

seems rather pricey

 

i only need the front doors but i am down for some!

 

wow, that would be awesome need to see em first though

 

in most cases, yes you ae correct, but... ever had a look inside of the xB's doors?... you'll notice one thing... a couple of purposeless ribs made of sheet metal. some car's doors supply absolutly ZERO safety agenst damage because the added weight is not neccessary for eco cars because the designers don't see the car having much problems being they are meant for eco driving, not spirited drive, but guess what... the import tuner world... just about every car that is normaly used is an eco car. think a Honda crx is any worse then an xB? HAH! think again. i've seen wrecks with hondas, both with and without carbon fiber doors and i will tell you right now that aftermath with the carbon fiber doors was much more desireable then stock doors.

Carbon Fiber doors are infact safer then then an xB's stock doors. also know that carbon fiber doors are also eant to be used in a vehicle that also has a roll cage. stock doors DO hold purpose for roll overs. they help give stability to the roof so that is doesn't crush like a can, a roll cage counters the stability loss with added stiffening and strength. as for our doors though... CF ould be better. those of you who have gone through and sound deaden'ed your internior, you know first hand just what makes up our doors... which is almost nothing other then sheet metal...


"seems rather pricey" - thats carbon fiber doors for ya...

"wow, that would be awesome, need to see'em first though" - can't... really... see them first. there is no carbon fiber doors for the xB available. i supose you COULD see them if someone were to buy all 20pcs and install a set for them self's. problem is... buying 20 carbon fiber doors is a big chunk of change for one person alone. thats why it's gota be a group buy thing. i'd gladly fork over the some 10 or 20 thousand to buy all 20 doors if i had it... but sadly, i'm not that rich

 

could do a photoshop'ed pic if you wanted an example... or just find images of other cars with CF doors. Seibon makes CF doors for lots of cars.

 

Winter, I come from 10 years working in computer aided engineering and many of my projects were crash testing for front, side, rear and roof crush impact. Every new car sold on the road has to meet the same standards for side impact some do it better than others obviously. When you mention that most cars that have cf doors usually have roll cages in them, they are obviously usually not daily driven cars. This means the doors are there for the complete look of a car rather than a Jeep wrangler with the doors off.

Hey if you want them go for it but they will probably be heavier than the OEM doors from what i have read the Carbon Fiber pieces on our cars are often the same in weight or pretty close to them. $2000 or more to save 20-50 pounds is a lot of money.

Will these doors be finished on the inside or will you also have to spend another $1500 on carbon fiber interior door panels.

That puts your carbon fiber doors about the same money as a turbo. My money is on more hp rather than saving 20-50 pounds.

I hope you do it because it would look sick to see cf hood hatch fenders and doors on our cars.

Your posts led me to want me to share my experience and make sure you were thinking about safety. Hate to see a fellow xb owner lost for the look of carbon fiber.

 

I could shed more weight by having lipo, and still be money ahead if I keep my stockers!

 

Seibon would be matching the skeletol structure of the door. stock interior door panels would pop right back on like they were before.

i'm not doubting your experties, but from what i've seen from cars with simular doors to our xB's, i would rather get in a wreck with CF doors.

as for weight reduction, if all 4 doors are replaced, theres a reduction of about 80lbs. hatch = about 30lbs, fenders... maybe 10lbs, hood = 25lbs or a little more. our doors would probably only weigh around 8lbs a piece without guts, hatch maybe around 12-15lbs without guts and hood about 10lbs if all in CF. one of the real wieght killers ofcourse is the rear seat back rest, i'm replacing the internal metal with carbon fiber my self and i may end up just redoing the entire rear seat so that the back rest area is all one piece like the butt cussion piece.

 

some saddening news...

seems that 20pcs means 20 sets of each specific item. for example, 20 pairs of front doors and 20 pairs of rear doors... SUPER...

 

wow that sucks, yea I'd like to see the quality, I've got a cf hood and its nice and all but its aftermarket and aftermarket is never the same as stock, I get in a wreck and I might be one to jump on this, because a stock door is several hundred bucks for one

 

well from what i've read and been told is that one a custom order is done from Seibon Carbon, they then add what was custom ordered to thier availability list of CF parts. now that they have molds, might aswell use them for the market and sense there was atleast 20 sets ordered, that means theres some sort of demand.

the few pieces i feel that would be worth getting would be the hood and rear hatch. but if we can get the doors going, they will be available to buy at any time instead of having to do custom order.

 

also a full dash, center console, center stereo surround, the plastic peices on the column, and the door panels wouldn't be bad ideas, theres been demand in the past for the dash, and door panels

 

jdmcarboy.com has both front and rear door interior panels in both fiberglass and carbon fiber. front panels have a 6.5" component set pre-cut for speakers. rear panels have an 8" cuttout for an 8" sub or you could make an adapter piece for 6.5" component set.