NEED TO BE SAID VERSION 2!!
I have to bring my past up to make sure everybody sees clear on who I am. In the past few days I have tried and contact a friend that I let down when he need me the most. And truly in my heart I didn't think I was that type of person. Apparently I was. He was there when a car hit me driving from Vallejo all the way to Hayward just to see that I was O.K. He was there when I needed someone to talk to and just a great friend all around. This friend of mine was or is Chad (Krzd1)! I have never apologized to anyone or said sorry about ____ that I have done. I have always just went my way! Chad truly is one person that I have ever done this for.
So here it is in a nut shell: Myself and Chad always met up early in Concord and we would always talk before the meet. Usaully it was about daily bull____, but on occasions it would be about the club. Chad had said on several occasions that we need to organize the club smaller and that we need smaller chapters. I always said that we shouldn't do that and that we should just leave it as is. Eventually I saw that the club was getting larger then most can handle.
Myself and Chad went to Dave and Tim that we need to split up NorCal, because we couldn't give everybody the right amount attention. Myself and Chad did tell Dave and Tim that they were still head of NorCal and then there were subdivisions. Unfortunately this was never going to work. It would've of been a club with in a club. A few things were said in the back though, since I'm coming all clean. FrankenScion did want Chad to take over NorCal, and Chad personally told me this and I told him that this would divide NorCal and he said he knows. I told him if divided, he knew which way I was going. Chad knew and never did anything, because he was loyal to NorCal and didn't want the rupture. Well guess I had to open my big mouth and finally said that NorCal had to breakdown in sub chapters. At Scion Night we decided to break the chapters into counties and choose those peeps that have worked hard and participated in the clubs well being.
Now things get really interesting! We have everything seperated and then titles are thrown around and who does what and who is where. This is where I see everything from different point of views. FrankenScion wanted a more spread out head of the counties and that was it. No head of NorCal, just head of Chapters. Though one thing he didn't do was call Evidave and Tim and let him on his idea. He just expected Chad to tell them. If you ask someone to come join a club and start a chapter in your area, you should also give them the same respect that if you wanted to change something, you called them. Talk to everybody with respect and as it should be given. Now point of views could have been mistrued and as a person should do is call those individuals and get there opinions on all that is going on. Still not faulting any individuals. I'll take the blame for breaking up our happy family. Sometimes I just don't know when to shut up!! It's me, go figure!
So now that all the stuff is layed out there. Unfortunately all of us are to blame. If we stood by our words we would still all be Norcal Scikotics through and through. You never really think you would get all caught in all this bull____, drama, fubar mentality. I am the one to blame that NorCal Scikotics split as it did. Somehow I thought I could of buried it all and deep down it was eating at me constantly. I apologize to everybody!
To: Chad
I really do appreciate our friendship in the past and would like to stay that way. Layed it all out for everybody to see!!
To: Keith that I still respect to this day who I see that work hard supporting your family is a god given talent, day after day.
To: EvilDave
Thank you for the support. Never doubting my intentions
To: Tim & Quinn
Thank you for being a couple with a gracious heart.
To:Brad
For showing what friends should for one another.
I chose to put it on ScionLife where all clubs are on equal ground. Feedback whether positive or negative would be appreciated!!
On a last note FrankenScion did asked me to stay 5 months ago and I didn't read till now. Thank you for the email. I guess reading now hurt me more after I did let quite a few friends down. I also apologize for that!
So here it is in a nut shell: Myself and Chad always met up early in Concord and we would always talk before the meet. Usaully it was about daily bull____, but on occasions it would be about the club. Chad had said on several occasions that we need to organize the club smaller and that we need smaller chapters. I always said that we shouldn't do that and that we should just leave it as is. Eventually I saw that the club was getting larger then most can handle.
Myself and Chad went to Dave and Tim that we need to split up NorCal, because we couldn't give everybody the right amount attention. Myself and Chad did tell Dave and Tim that they were still head of NorCal and then there were subdivisions. Unfortunately this was never going to work. It would've of been a club with in a club. A few things were said in the back though, since I'm coming all clean. FrankenScion did want Chad to take over NorCal, and Chad personally told me this and I told him that this would divide NorCal and he said he knows. I told him if divided, he knew which way I was going. Chad knew and never did anything, because he was loyal to NorCal and didn't want the rupture. Well guess I had to open my big mouth and finally said that NorCal had to breakdown in sub chapters. At Scion Night we decided to break the chapters into counties and choose those peeps that have worked hard and participated in the clubs well being.
Now things get really interesting! We have everything seperated and then titles are thrown around and who does what and who is where. This is where I see everything from different point of views. FrankenScion wanted a more spread out head of the counties and that was it. No head of NorCal, just head of Chapters. Though one thing he didn't do was call Evidave and Tim and let him on his idea. He just expected Chad to tell them. If you ask someone to come join a club and start a chapter in your area, you should also give them the same respect that if you wanted to change something, you called them. Talk to everybody with respect and as it should be given. Now point of views could have been mistrued and as a person should do is call those individuals and get there opinions on all that is going on. Still not faulting any individuals. I'll take the blame for breaking up our happy family. Sometimes I just don't know when to shut up!! It's me, go figure!
So now that all the stuff is layed out there. Unfortunately all of us are to blame. If we stood by our words we would still all be Norcal Scikotics through and through. You never really think you would get all caught in all this bull____, drama, fubar mentality. I am the one to blame that NorCal Scikotics split as it did. Somehow I thought I could of buried it all and deep down it was eating at me constantly. I apologize to everybody!
To: Chad
I really do appreciate our friendship in the past and would like to stay that way. Layed it all out for everybody to see!!
To: Keith that I still respect to this day who I see that work hard supporting your family is a god given talent, day after day.
To: EvilDave
Thank you for the support. Never doubting my intentions
To: Tim & Quinn
Thank you for being a couple with a gracious heart.
To:Brad
For showing what friends should for one another.
I chose to put it on ScionLife where all clubs are on equal ground. Feedback whether positive or negative would be appreciated!!
On a last note FrankenScion did asked me to stay 5 months ago and I didn't read till now. Thank you for the email. I guess reading now hurt me more after I did let quite a few friends down. I also apologize for that!
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Bamm, I hope that things between you and your friends are amended. I already know that you are a cool guy, because you would come over to my shop just to talk with me while your car was getting worked on. Even though you were told other things about me, I know that you wanted to see for yourself how I really was. I read your new years topic and right away removed all of my signature for a clean start. Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials and may you have a lovely wedding. You are always welcomed back to my shop any time you like, just to talk about whatever or here more history about Nor*Cal Scions. PM me anytime,
-Gabe
-Gabe
Bamm, I should be the one thanking you. You have always been there for me and all our family. You have given me suport when I really needed a friend. Allot of us owe you and I just hope we can all be there for you again if you ever need it. You never need to thank me ,I know that you always have my back and you know I will always have yours.
Love ya brother!
Love ya brother!
Brother Bamm, I think out of all of us I hold a grudge more then anyone. And to this, I say, you have NOTHING to thank me for. If there is one thing that I have learned being a military brat, and serving myself. It is Honor, I respect those with it and that understand the true meaning of FAMILY.
To all of that, I want you to know that you of anyone will never have to thank me for anything! Your a great man and a loving person. Those of us that do have the ability to call you a brother should be thanking you!
So, thank you for being who you are. It takes a lot to type up what you have here and to say what you have.
It is my pleasure and honor to call you family, and that is not a term I use lightly.
So, take care and see you later today.
To all of that, I want you to know that you of anyone will never have to thank me for anything! Your a great man and a loving person. Those of us that do have the ability to call you a brother should be thanking you!
So, thank you for being who you are. It takes a lot to type up what you have here and to say what you have.
It is my pleasure and honor to call you family, and that is not a term I use lightly.
So, take care and see you later today.
Bamm, bro! Wasup? You know, things happen! There is no point in going back and thinking about how things were. I thank you and the rest of the guys/gals who were once scikotics. You guys did show me what a car club should be all about. It's not easy to run a chapter . . let alone the entire car club! I fully support you guys (N.C.I.S)! Love seeing a couple of you guys at our weekly hang-outs from time to time. Dont' feel bad about anything. . . like you said yourself . .. you're a grown up. As long as you've learned from it . . man. . that shows you ARE a grown up. Hope to see you around Bamm . . . take care for now.
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Originally Posted by chefbamm
Thanks for your reply. I would love to hear from other peeps as well. Good or bad doesn't matter. I'm a grown up sometimes!!
All I can offer, is time to kick back and have some lunch with me. Always nice to have a conversation with ya Bamm!
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well Bamm... my position on this matter along with pretty much everything that has ever happened up here in norcal has and will be pretty much be the same....
i know of it... and i cannot and refuse to take sides...
everyone that i know, have met, and had the pleasure to spend time with i get along well with.. (afaik)... and despite the fact that certain individuals may or may not get along with each other... i still hang out with either party.
Bamm... you are an awesome person... period. and i hope through all of these troubles you still remain that way.
see ya around.
i know of it... and i cannot and refuse to take sides...
everyone that i know, have met, and had the pleasure to spend time with i get along well with.. (afaik)... and despite the fact that certain individuals may or may not get along with each other... i still hang out with either party.
Bamm... you are an awesome person... period. and i hope through all of these troubles you still remain that way.
see ya around.
Bamm I have the utmost respect for you. Bamm you are not too blame for the breakup of Norcal Scikotics. This needed to be put out in the open for everyone to see. Bamm i thank you for all the help promoting Weapon-R and everything you have done to support the Scion name. Me and Margie appreciate all that you have done as well. I do hear from many of my Scikotics friends that they do miss the BLG events. I just wish the breakdown of chapters was voted on by Norcal as a whole, and communicated better and Words were not broken!
Thats the way i see it.
Also to those that heard me say something recently at a show, and blew it out of proportion well more power to you. At the time i said it i ment everybit of it, and i dont regret it!
Bamm you ever need anything don't hesitate to ask.
Thats the way i see it.
Also to those that heard me say something recently at a show, and blew it out of proportion well more power to you. At the time i said it i ment everybit of it, and i dont regret it!
Bamm you ever need anything don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks to all, yet there is many more that need to speak. I welcome everybody's thoughts. Wheteher it's negative or not. I heard Krispulo had written something and it was gone. Please repost the comment up. Positive or negative comments, all are welcomed. It's the only way to clean the slate and progress. If people that don't want my friendship and don't think that I'm a good can say so. I'll have no ill feelings towards that person. I'll respect your words and leave it there. You'll have no more on this from me. My promise! And once again, thank you for your thoughts and messages!!
Now that I have some time to think and not make things all stupid, cuz I just don't care and have moved on.....
I hold no grudges to anyone. I may not hang out with everyone anymore but that's my choice.
I don't have the time to worry about what other people think of me. Your not gonna hurt my feelings if you don't like me or if you talk bad about me. I DON'T NEED FRIENDS. I know who my friends are. I'm an a$$hole, plain and simple but people have fun hanging out with me and just eating cheese and drinking wine.
To Bamm, what's done is done. I forgive you man. Brat may not, but I do. I hold no grudges.....
Dave & Tim (and Brad since he's not on here you can post it on your board) - I'm not starting anything here and just giving my 2 cents since I have kept my mouth shut from the get go. I think it is funny how you say that you forgive Bamm for what he did and you all ripped me a new _______ for being a part of it....Did you guys read in between the lines??? HE SAID HE WAS INVOLVED WITH IT TOO....... Did you turn your back on him...nah.........................but you know what, I forgive you. I have moved on. I was cool with you at San Ramon and will continue to be. We don't have to be friends but we don't have to be enemies either. We don't have to all hang out together but when we are all around each other, keep the past the past........it's so tiring.
Clubs do not pay for both my kids private schools, mortgage, child support, or even my car note. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!!!!!
Last but not least Cee-dub.....Man Chris, there is just so much I could say but you are to ignorant to see past what you want to see.
Yes Chris, Bamm was just as much to blame as me for splitting up NorCal....Plain and simple..... Go ahead and keep popping off with your snide remarks because it just doesn't make you look bad, it makes Weapon-R look bad. You are the face of Weapon-R, your actions reflect the company. I have always supported Weapon-R products and continue to do so..... So next time we are at a meet, if you want to shake my hand, be real about it. Don't shake my hand and then go walking off laughing about it.
Other than that................PEACE. I will not be answering any rebuttals about this on the boards. If you have something to say, shoot me a p-mail.
Hi Pulo
I hold no grudges to anyone. I may not hang out with everyone anymore but that's my choice.
I don't have the time to worry about what other people think of me. Your not gonna hurt my feelings if you don't like me or if you talk bad about me. I DON'T NEED FRIENDS. I know who my friends are. I'm an a$$hole, plain and simple but people have fun hanging out with me and just eating cheese and drinking wine.
To Bamm, what's done is done. I forgive you man. Brat may not, but I do. I hold no grudges.....
Dave & Tim (and Brad since he's not on here you can post it on your board) - I'm not starting anything here and just giving my 2 cents since I have kept my mouth shut from the get go. I think it is funny how you say that you forgive Bamm for what he did and you all ripped me a new _______ for being a part of it....Did you guys read in between the lines??? HE SAID HE WAS INVOLVED WITH IT TOO....... Did you turn your back on him...nah.........................but you know what, I forgive you. I have moved on. I was cool with you at San Ramon and will continue to be. We don't have to be friends but we don't have to be enemies either. We don't have to all hang out together but when we are all around each other, keep the past the past........it's so tiring.
Clubs do not pay for both my kids private schools, mortgage, child support, or even my car note. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!!!!!
Last but not least Cee-dub.....Man Chris, there is just so much I could say but you are to ignorant to see past what you want to see.
Yes Chris, Bamm was just as much to blame as me for splitting up NorCal....Plain and simple..... Go ahead and keep popping off with your snide remarks because it just doesn't make you look bad, it makes Weapon-R look bad. You are the face of Weapon-R, your actions reflect the company. I have always supported Weapon-R products and continue to do so..... So next time we are at a meet, if you want to shake my hand, be real about it. Don't shake my hand and then go walking off laughing about it.
Other than that................PEACE. I will not be answering any rebuttals about this on the boards. If you have something to say, shoot me a p-mail.
Hi Pulo
Yes Chad I know you were just a pawn in this. I wish this all would have been handled alot differant. But it came from above all of us and you were just doing what was asked of you. I fully understand this now. I have no bad feelings towerds you even though I took alot out on you when it happend. If the one person who made the choice to do what happend would have just said something himself ,I think things would have been alot differant.
Wow! I just read this. Thanks Brad for pointing this out for me. Yes Brad has read the commnets. He wanted me to let you all know.
Chad- You are right I am the face for Weapon-R. Thats why i put my opinions towards a club aside and sponsored it. Even though I did not agree with how and what went down, i seen the club was growing. Also if you thought I was laughing after i shook your hand then thats how you felt i wont challenge that. But i did mean the jester. If you do read this I would like to next time we are at a meet/show or anything just go aside and talk and put stuff behind us, if thats ok.
I will send you the P-mail as well.
Chad- You are right I am the face for Weapon-R. Thats why i put my opinions towards a club aside and sponsored it. Even though I did not agree with how and what went down, i seen the club was growing. Also if you thought I was laughing after i shook your hand then thats how you felt i wont challenge that. But i did mean the jester. If you do read this I would like to next time we are at a meet/show or anything just go aside and talk and put stuff behind us, if thats ok.
I will send you the P-mail as well.
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