We know our image is not as good as we were before, but we have taken steps to improve our products and re-structured our program, people please leave the old images of Weapon*R behind and give us a chance to show you the New Weapon*R Team.

We have developed an intake pipe that will put out some real good numbers..
I just wanted to know if anyone is intrested in a intake system that will give you more
HP than any other intake out there on the market now..

Money back guarntee...
All of these new Race intakes are Hand made..

We will post dyno results in the next few days..

We can only show the difference between stock and out new race intake..

Im not here to flame anyone.. just wanted to notify people of our new products..

Next on the list is a Billet Aluminum Oil Catch Tank.
Engine Damper Kit.
Here is the engine damper kit : Becoming available in the next few months..
www.weapon-r.com/images/enginedamper.jpg


thank you,
Leo
Weapon*R R&D Team



The Billet Throttle Rotor was a mistake.. the retailer that was selling them mis-takenly sold them as XB throttle rotors..

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Money back guarntee...

The Billet Throttle Rotor was a mistake.. the retailer that was selling them mis-takenly sold them as XB throttle rotors..

i think im interested. how long is the money back gaurentee good for?

The money back guarantee sounds good. Any pics of the intake pipe..and will it fit the xA???

Money back for 15 days after reciept..

And we havent tried an XA but im sure it will fit..

Leo

Pictures of the pipe later today..

I don't know about these other guys but I have never had a problem with Weapon R in the past. My prelude runs their intake, headers, and muffler.

WEAPONRLEO, will the products work and be dyno'd on an auto xB?

you know what i did say something else but it is not even worth it!

Why don't you guys just change your name... If you start fresh and come out with good stuff, you'll do good. I don't know why people started hating on you guys but I do know they now use your name to degrade and make fun of things...It became an icon kinda like a Pinto. Let me know if you need an example of what I'm talking about 8)

Well we have intentions of changin our name..

The intake has been tested for fitment on an 5spd and an automatic XB and they both fit properly.

We just finished a Oil catch can today and i will be taking pictures tommorrow..

Has anyone anything to say about the engine damper?

Im looking at getting a dyno test on the intake in the next few days..
Hopefully next week.

thanks,
Leo

I think the Dampener looks great....do you have any better pictures of it located with the engine.......based on the pictures of it were exactly is that were its mounted...I dont own a Scion yet......but the quality looks good......are you going for more of a actual racing type parts for cars now??? Is that your focus and not just misc. stuff???

Why was my post deleted? Is it because you dont want people to know what the truth is?

Let the truth be known. HAHa i dunno! j/k I just thought it was appropriate to say that. HAHA!! :)

That engine dampener looks interesting, but hte link is dead. I'd like to see it. :)

Why was my post deleted? Is it because you dont want people to know what the truth is?

What is the truth?

The truth is.....frankly Scarlet I dont give a damn.......yea what is the truth?

I got a dead link also on the engine dampner.

Why was my post deleted? Is it because you dont want people to know what the truth is?

What is the truth?

THE THRUTH......You can't handle the truth...hehehe :lol:

We have developed an intake pipe that will put out some real good numbers..
I just wanted to know if anyone is intrested in a intake system that will give you more
HP than any other intake out there on the market now..


I am willing to install one of your products on my xB for your promotion..

Yup link is dead :roll:

I'd also be willing to slap on your intake or perhaps any other mods on my XB for your promotion as well

If I can make a small suggestion......which I think will help instill more confidence. A money back guarantee sounds really nice.............but 15 days? I know some people are really gung-ho about getting their new parts installed. But others are too busy to have their stuff installed right away....work.......school.....what have you. Sometimes it takes us two weeks to get a new part on our car finally. I think a 30 day guarantee wouldn't be out of line. It gives people a little wiggle room for getting the product installed........and a decent amount of time for evaluation. 15 days just seems to be cutting it a little close. With good dyno numbers.....and a 30 day guarantee........I'd definitely be interested.

KiL

If I can make a small suggestion......which I think will help instill more confidence. A money back guarantee sounds really nice.............but 15 days? I know some people are really gung-ho about getting their new parts installed. But others are too busy to have their stuff installed right away....work.......school.....what have you. Sometimes it takes us two weeks to get a new part on our car finally. I think a 30 day guarantee wouldn't be out of line. It gives people a little wiggle room for getting the product installed........and a decent amount of time for evaluation. 15 days just seems to be cutting it a little close. With good dyno numbers.....and a 30 day guarantee........I'd definitely be interested.

KiL this is how they get you too, i am willing to bet that the 15 days starts when you order it, depending on where you live it could take up to a week to get it and then by the time you test it- another week to make sure all is good or get into a dyno to see if it really makes power and then you have passed the 15 day money back garrantee grace period.
Now i don' t like Weapon-R (had a bad experience once where i lost 500.00 buying products, and never recieved them, or a refund,But that is another story. ) but if you guys really changed things around for the better, and offer a 30 day money back guarantee i would be interested too. people do deserve a second chance.

If I can make a small suggestion......which I think will help instill more confidence. A money back guarantee sounds really nice.............but 15 days? I know some people are really gung-ho about getting their new parts installed. But others are too busy to have their stuff installed right away....work.......school.....what have you. Sometimes it takes us two weeks to get a new part on our car finally. I think a 30 day guarantee wouldn't be out of line. It gives people a little wiggle room for getting the product installed........and a decent amount of time for evaluation. 15 days just seems to be cutting it a little close. With good dyno numbers.....and a 30 day guarantee........I'd definitely be interested.

KiL this is how they get you too, i am willing to bet that the 15 days starts when you order it, depending on where you live it could take up to a week to get it and then by the time you test it- another week to make sure all is good or get into a dyno to see if it really makes power and then you have passed the 15 day money back garrantee grace period.
Now i don' t like Weapon-R (had a bad experience once where i lost 500.00 buying products, and never recieved them, or a refund,But that is another story. ) but if you guys really changed things around for the better, and offer a 30 day money back guarantee i would be interested too. people do deserve a second chance.

haha 2nd chance my ___. i dont wanna be down in the dumps.. its still just an intake
i rahter roll stock then to take a gamble with a shady company.

i'll just sit back and wait till a few guys rock that stuff and see how it is.
i can't afford to take a gamble knowing this company has had
bad experiences with pleasing the customer.

i'll just sit back and wait till a few guys rock that stuff and see how it is.
i can't afford to take a gamble knowing this company has had
bad experiences with pleasing the customer.

I've been running their intake for weeks. It's been great so far. Filter didn't get suck in, water didn't get into the pipe even after all these rain in the bay area, etc.....

same here and i drove through that crazy ___ storm last month, you know the one joey. didn't have any probs. i'd like to have that dyno tested and then we'll see if i get my 2nd weapon R intake

now i do not want to start sh*t again about weapon-r but this guy has not been here for a few days and the website suddenly disappeared! either they are revamping or the went bankrupt. or they all read my story and said 500.00 that is all the profit we made 4yrs ago if he wants it , we will go bankrupt, lets get out of here!! j/k but it is fishy!

We have developed an intake pipe that will put out some real good numbers..
I just wanted to know if anyone is intrested in a intake system that will give you more
HP than any other intake out there on the market now..

We will post dyno results in the next few days..

We can only show the difference between stock and out new race intake..



Interesting how he states you will get more HP than any other intake but he doesn't have the dyno results yet?

Ok.. i think thats fair.. 30 days from date of ordered..
I have a Regular Dragon INtake that goes for $160 retail..
Im willing to let people try it out for $130+ $10 shipping.
This is an Cold Air intake.

But our race pipe is going for $200 + $10 Shipping.
The difference is that you will feel more torque and power in the lower end of the powerband. What i have noticed in other intakes is that the Xb being that it has a smaller engine, has a hesitaition in the lower end of the powerband , due to the sudden gulp of fresh air, it looses lower end power, but the higher end powerband is greatly increased. What our race pipe does is increase the lower & higher end powerband, due to our patent pending dual intake path design.

What that does is that it has 2 intake paths of airspeed.
1 pathway having an airspeed faster than the other, therefore creating a velocitizing effect when the 2 different airspeeds meet together. It's like a drafting effect .
The end result is more Airspeed and More Air Volume.
The increased Airspeed helps with your low end power, whereas the increased Air Volume gives you more hig end power.

Like i said i will honor the 30 day money back guarntee.
Intake has to be given back with no scratches or dents.
Intake has to be in re-sellable condition.
Air Filter cannot be dirty.
If any of these are not met, a 25% restocking charged will be de-ducted from your refund.

I think that is a Fair Deal.

Call me at 650-877-8280 Ext #2
Ask for Leo.
If anyone is intrested in this deal.

And about our website..
We re-designing it.. and moving servers..
sorry about the in-conviences..

Leo

sounds like a good deal with the 30 day money back, i will even go for the 25% restocking fee, when i get my xb i will try out your race division one, and if you have not dynoed it i will and send you the results. i have your number it will be a couple months though, BTW what happened to the web-site?

Im willing to let people try it out for $130+ $10 shipping.


Try it out?

I think with the bad reputation i read on this thread. I believe its in your best interest to invest a few of your NEW intakes and allow select members of scionlife to TRY your intakes at no charge.
It will look good on your part by showing us you highly recommend them.
At the same time they can be dyno tested. Maybe you can type out a questionaire for these members to fill out and return to you.

If these members like the intake after say a 30 day trial, you can give it to them as a gift for helping you out or sell it to them at a generous discount.

Anyone else agree with me??

I am willing to try one of your intakes.

i'm with that too. i plan on getting one reguardless, if the dyno numbers are not there i will return it. but free does sound better. all you really need is one or two to test it and it is all good from there(as long as the numbers are on the dyno)

Anyone else agree with me??

Yep....At this point, that's what it would take. It would'nt hurt the company, only help...

sorry cant do freebies..

i think the money back is a good deal already..
Management will not allow me to do a freebie.

leo

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I would be interested in participating in this test!

It would be reward indefinatley if WeaponR needs a couple of Guinnie pigs.

Of course I will be happy to provide some true results and suggestions for exchange -

sorry cant do freebies..

i think the money back is a good deal already..
Management will not allow me to do a freebie.

leo

Sponsership, with stickers, etc.. I would if i owned an accessory company.

Its a small investment in the beginning for more returns.

Anyways, it was worth a try...Just trying to help since your product is *new*

i never have used a weapon type-r i mean weapon-r type intake
or anyting like that.

but can someone show me how to install, and USE an intake
for a trial of 30 days without scracthing it, denting it, or
getting the filter dirty?(those are the terms of the 30 day bull____)

Let me use the product for thirty days and then bill me if I like it!!

I don't know if I missed it but about the race intake, what does it look like? How are there 2 paths for the air to go thru? Are there 2 seperate filters/tubes that meet before they go into the engine? Do you have any pics of it on another type of car or just the design? Also dyno's would be cool and a side to side shot of each intake design.

I purchased a weapon r throttle rotor....i purchased from PPR audio...

I sent it back, and they never returned my money, and will not return my emails

I dont think that weapon R as a company is ghetto....I think that the people who SELL and carry weapon R products are GHETTO... :lol:

did you ever install it?

no, it was a mistake....was sold as a scion rotor, and was labeled as a celica rotor or something like that. It didnt fit....

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5006&highlight=

this post came up last week. :? thats why i ask

wow looking at the reactions from the first page to the second page it took a 180, what the hell? now all the sudden weapon-r sucks huh! well i have put my purposal out there for you leo, hit me back if you want to do buisness.

here is a dyno test we did against the AEM V2 Intake..
It was done on a 1997 Civic EX 1.6L.

The runs include:
Stock intake.
AEM V2 Cold Air Intake.
Weapon*R Race Pipe.
www.weapon-r.com/images/racepipe.jpg
Stock HP & TQ. = 100.91HP 84.12TQ
AEM V2 : 105.72HP 88.13TQ
WR Race Pipe: 108.28HP 90.27TQ.

Will it look like the aem cold air and then will the race type look like the spfr/injen ones were it goes straight down instead of looping on top like aem?

Sorry i forgot to bring my camera today but i promise i will have a picture up tommorrow.. Also.the pipe comes straight off the throttlebody and over to the fenderwell just right of the headlight and then 90 degrees downwards into the fenderwell.

I will also take pictures of our Newly developed Oil catch tank for the XB tommorrow..

thanks,
Leo

Since your filters look a bit too fancy...Would it be bad if I changed the filter to a more...Normal one?

Well the filter is in the fenderwell.. you cant see it anyhow..
But i do not guarntee Simular HP results with a different filter..

I will get dyno results ASAP..
People in the bay area are invited to check the dyno testing out.. when we figure out the date of the dyno test.

Leo

Sorry it took so long for the pictures..
Here is the intake..
www.weapon-r.com/images/intake_system_picture_small.jpg

Here is the Oil Catch Tank..
www.weapon-r.com/images/xb_oil_catch_tank_small.jpg

that tank is in prototype stages.. everything fits.. It's just not as pretty as we would like .. But the productions ones will be..

i may be a complete retard but, what is the purpose of the oil catch tank?

Spawn.........dude are you all there?

You are quite the instagator and definatley not a buisness man- :roll:

Damn, not to be mean but that oil catch can looks F*kd up. Is that how the real thing will look like or will those corners be smoothed out somehow? I was planning on getting the Greddy one just for looks cuz that one is clean looking but if yours is somehow better, then we'll see. Do you know where to mount that so it can be visible cuz I want it mounted where people can see it but I have a strut bar and wanted it to sit on top but now I can't figure out another place.

i may be a complete retard but, what is the purpose of the oil catch tank?

Just like a breather filter..except nicer. Any oil that would go through there would just drop into the can...

Is it just me? I though the intake was suppose to have to pipes? or something like that..

If you read the reply.. IT SAYS.. It's a prototype.. and it will not look like this.. it's justa mock-up. It will have smooth edges. Etc and it will be polished..


I already gave everybody a link to dyno's and hoe the tube looks inside..
This is a picture of the entire kit..

If you just read < ABOVE > you would see the previous links..

Spawn.........dude are you all there?

You are quite the instagator and definatley not a buisness man- :roll: you all are the ones that say "i never had a problem with weapon-r!!!they seem like a good company to me" and "what the hell Spawn weapon-r sucks" when you all make up your mind then have the right to say something to me, until then GFY ! i had a bad view of weapon-r , it changed because someone decided to be a man and step up , and i respect that. now i am giving weapon-r a second chance, BECAUSE I CAN!!!! sorry froto... i mean proto i am a instagator(i'll admit that) but guess what... this is a forum, get over it, there is nothing you are going to do except come back (on the forum) and cry about how i am a jerk, and how you don't like my posts, boohoo. and as far as the buisnessman crap , you are right i am NOT a buisnessman, i am a United States Marine 0311 Grunt, i go to war so you can enjoy the finer things like freedom, if it wasn"t for INSTAGATORS like me, you wouldn't be here.

Spawn.........dude are you all there?

You are quite the instagator and definatley not a buisness man- :roll: you all are the ones that say "i never had a problem with weapon-r!!!they seem like a good company to me" and "what the hell Spawn weapon-r sucks" when you all make up your mind then have the right to say something to me, until then GFY ! i had a bad view of weapon-r , it changed because someone decided to be a man and step up , and i respect that. now i am giving weapon-r a second chance, BECAUSE I CAN!!!! sorry froto... i mean proto i am a instagator(i'll admit that) but guess what... this is a forum, get over it, there is nothing you are going to do except come back (on the forum) and cry about how i am a jerk, and how you don't like my posts, boohoo. and as far as the buisnessman crap , you are right i am NOT a buisnessman, i am a United States Marine 0311 Grunt, i go to war so you can enjoy the finer things like freedom, if it wasn"t for INSTAGATORS like me, you wouldn't be here.

Are you whining? I don't like that!!!


Doc

yup definitely some whinning. 'i can say whatever i want' 'but if you say anything about what im saying then you suck because i can say whatever i want' :roll:

yup definitely some whinning. 'i can say whatever i want' 'but if you say anything about what im saying then you suck because i can say whatever i want' :roll:
:shock: :lol: :lol: How did a new intake discussion turn into this

Spawn.........dude are you all there?

You are quite the instagator and definatley not a buisness man- :roll: you all are the ones that say "i never had a problem with weapon-r!!!they seem like a good company to me" and "what the hell Spawn weapon-r sucks" when you all make up your mind then have the right to say something to me, until then GFY ! i had a bad view of weapon-r , it changed because someone decided to be a man and step up , and i respect that. now i am giving weapon-r a second chance, BECAUSE I CAN!!!! sorry froto... i mean proto i am a instagator(i'll admit that) but guess what... this is a forum, get over it, there is nothing you are going to do except come back (on the forum) and cry about how i am a jerk, and how you don't like my posts, boohoo. and as far as the buisnessman crap , you are right i am NOT a buisnessman, i am a United States Marine 0311 Grunt, i go to war so you can enjoy the finer things like freedom, if it wasn"t for INSTAGATORS like me, you wouldn't be here.

Are you whining? I don't like that!!!


Doc yes i am whining you know me i am never happy.

I have to be on WeaponRLeo's side about selling product and offer certain warranty
A filter pipe is can be re-sale once its been reconditioned, but not the filter itself... Any return is company’s lost. Plus people now days do take advantages of the warranty...

For example:
Performance part is very very hard to do... There is really no "standard" standard... People can buy a intake for the that dyno proven to add 15whp... But still want to return it after week of abuse simply because they expected more... And that is just what humans are...

I really appreciated companies like SPFR and WeaponR for give certain warranty period for fellow scion owners. Red Genie itself gives 1 year limited warranty on our body kit too against our own mistakes. Hopefully you guys will keep supporting us.

But I also have one thing to say to companies that try to make sales here... I am not the admin of this forum, but I am a gold sponsor who paid to advertise here... Hope you guys will support the site if you wish to make the money here... Thanks

Ok we got a date for next week at Modacar to dyno test the Race Intake..

Anyone who is intrested please do come by..

I will re-port the date of the dyno day..

Sorry for the long delay, had to find a good XB to dyno off of and a good day that would work with everyone..

Leo..

I work 10 mins from modacar. Let me know!!

Spawn-

Its ok I see that you are an angry person, I will sit back and relax for now and wait for your head to pop-


No beef yall- just entertainment!

I would like to swing by with my Xa. I'll take the day off as soon as you tell us the date and address.
ken

Ok we are going to dyno on Tuesday at 2:00.

Address:
MODACAR
6583 Las Positas Road Livermore, CA 94550

See you guys there..
Leo..

EVERYONE IS INVITED..

My feedback regarding Weapon-R:

I ordered some things from them a few years ago (in my ricer days) thru a third party (their online vendor). Service was always top notch. I even had a rep call me after I ordered my intake to make sure I rec'd it. Free cheesey gifts were always provided with purchases, and even more upon request if there was a delivery delay, etc. Never had a problem with their customer service.

Their dragon intake was effective, and of no lesser quality than their competitors. On small 4cyl N/A motors, an aftermarket intake is NOT going to make a large improvement. If you actually net a 3-4hp gain, that's not bad. In these circumstances, there is really no advantage to using a CAI vs a "short-ram"...I don't care what anybody says. I prefer the short rams because the filter is not located at the bottom of the car collecting rainy slush. It is much easier to remove/clean/replace the filter if it is located at the top of the engine bay. For such a small improvement, it is not worth getting a CAI. Find intakes made of quality parts and construction, and pick the one that looks best. Sine the difference between major brand intakes is almost indiscernable, why not make its appearance the deciding factor?
Based on experience, I doubt that the W-R filter will outperform the Blitz SUS filter. Although the W-R filters are very thin and will probably provide more airflow than most other filters.
The one thing I don't like is that W-R bases their intakes' superiority on one dyno test on one vehicle. They then make intakes to fit other vehicles, without providing proof that they have been tested to make a significant difference on each vehicle. What will work on one car well, will not always work for another. However, I can't slam W-R because most companies are guilty of the same.

Weapon-R products I did not like:
- Billet Throttle Rotor - we could not get this to fit any of the civics we tried to install on. I was unable to GIVE this thing away. I think it's still in my garage somewhere.
- Catch Tanks / Reservoirs - were not impervious to leakage; not a problem you want associated with your power steering or radiator fluid tanks! I ended up dismantling the outlets and wrapping the threads with nylon for better sealing.
- Silicon hose - was pretty weak and easy to tear, but so is most silicon hose. Word of caution to all (not related to W-R products): DO NOT use silicon hose to replace high pressure hoses. I have seen many people replace high-press hoses to make their engine bays pretty. People like that should have their license revoked.


Weapon-R has received a reputation for making mickey mouse products. While it won't be easy to accomplish, a comeback is not impossible. You just have to ditch the ricer image and make high-power products, while showing proof of how they outperform the competition. Best of luck.

BTW, those butterfly knife keys were pretty damn cool.

Leo, one question that I haven't seen posted yet. What is that engine damper supposed to accomplish?

Skywalker..
We are Re-vamping the whole company here WR..
Thanks for your constructive suggestions.
You WILL see more New changes here at WR and some of our Newer products to be " NON-RICE".

The engine damper helps in SHifting , by restrictiing the engine from large movements, also helps put more power to the ground. it's kinda like getting stiffer motor mounts..

Leo

Leo,
I'll be there at 2:00 to watch the dyno run's. See you then...
Ken

I'm thinking of buying a Dragon intake off ebay, but considering what i've read here, I'm having second thoughts. Also the last posting was last Januray so I was wondering if anyone still cares about this intake and what happened to the dyno testing (saw the results on the website). :) Due for my third oil change so I was considering spending what I saved on an intake system.

:?: :?: Question to Leo:
Where can we buy and how much is the replacement oil for the filter if you need to clean it? This is very important because customer support doesn't stop at the purchase of the Intake itself. :?: :?:

Thanks.

Ok we are going to dyno on Tuesday at 2:00.

Address:
MODACAR
6583 Las Positas Road Livermore, CA 94550

See you guys there..
Leo..

EVERYONE IS INVITED..

Ok, did I miss something here? This was back in January and the post is dead since. You gotta be kidding me here guys, all this _____ing, and then nothing. I ordered a Weapon-R intake and it is supposed to come in today. I've got half a mind to just send it back without installing it after all this crap.

The testing was discussed in another thread.

I was there, other than the foam/K&N discussion- I would run the Weapon R if I was buying an intake. I will fab my own to test my own theories soon. Been too busy with work and other projects but soon.

ken

Well my Weapon-R intake did show up today. Missing parts. Took it back to the place that ordered it for me and had them order an Injen. Oh well. I guess they still haven't gotten their act together yet.