Where is the best place to buy TRD springs for my 08 Xb? I found this place on the internet TRDsparks.com they are 205.00 there, but my only concern is that i want to make sure they are real TDR's and not fakes. I am having my dealership install them so they fall under warranty so they need to be authentic TRD's, and I would buy them from the dealer but they want 425.00 for the springs plus install.

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trdsparks is legit. they're a dealership themselves actually.

TRDsparks is probably the most well known and one of the most respected, but these guys are legit too, $192.50

http://www.scionpartspeople.com/SearchProduct.asp?Model=xB&catid=3394961687549679&year=08&productdesc=TRD+%2D+Lowering+Springs

Where is the best place to buy TRD springs for my 08 Xb? I found this place on the internet TRDsparks.com they are 205.00 there, but my only concern is that i want to make sure they are real TDR's and not fakes. I am having my dealership install them so they fall under warranty so they need to be authentic TRD's, and I would buy them from the dealer but they want 425.00 for the springs plus install.

What makes you think the after-sale dealer installation of TRD springs would be covered by warranty?

Dealer installed accessory warranty (by Toyota's warranty specification) will include and extend to all dealer installed Toyota approved accessories until the end of the original 3 year/36,000 mile new purchase warranty.
The accessories don't have to be purchased and installed when the vehicle is new, but the warranty period ends with the expiration of the new car warranty.

Dealer installed accessory warranty (by Toyota's warranty specification) will include and extend to all dealer installed Toyota approved accessories until the end of the original 3 year/36,000 mile new purchase warranty.
The accessories don't have to be purchased and installed when the vehicle is new, but the warranty period ends with the expiration of the new car warranty.

Sure, that makes sense that dealer installed TRD accesories would be covered by the warranty, but why would the cost of dealer installation be covered by warranty on newly added accessories -- makes no sense to me! (And that appears to be what the OP is saying!)

If they're TRD parts, and installed by the dealership, they will extend the new car warranty to those parts and their installation until the original warranty expires as a courtesy. If they didn't, nobody would have any incentive to buy Toyota parts and have them installed at the dealership unless they could afford to put them on at the time of purchase.

When it comes to financing, most lenders won't finance more than 10-20% over M.S.R.P., and if you've seen everything that Toyota offers in the way of accessories for the Scion brand few of us could afford to put on everything we want on day one anyway.

It's just another way for the manufacturer and dealership to make a buck, while giving "added value" in the way of the warranty to their customers.

Personally, I didn't see the need for a warranty on my springs, which is why I went with the Tanabe's and had them installed by a reputable suspension place with no affiliation to Toyota.

To each his/her own, the question becomes: do you sleep well at night with the decisions you have made.

As I said, I'm not suggesting the additional TRD parts wouldn't be covered by warranty, but I'm definitely suggesting their original INSTALLATION wouldn't be covered by warranty. Regardless of the part's source, the original installation would be out of the customer's pocket!

I think you mistook the original posters words out of context. It is evident that the charge for installation is there, as


"and I would buy them from the dealer but they want 425.00 for the springs plus install."


He knows there's a charge for install even when buying the part from the dealership itself. The original poster is just worried about the cost of the parts, period.

Sorry Trevor, I misunderstood your statement... of course the cost of the parts and the cost of the installation are paid for by the customer. What I meant regarding the installation is that if anything goes wrong during the warranty period that was the fault of the installer/installation procedure, any damages or necessary repair would be covered under the original new car warranty. I think this is why the OP is willing to pay a little more to have the installation done by Toyota/Scion instead of an aftermarket shop.

Thanks for yelling at me, it did get my attention. :doh:

I think you mistook the original posters words out of context. It is evident that the charge for installation is there, as


"and I would buy them from the dealer but they want 425.00 for the springs plus install."


He knows there's a charge for install even when buying the part from the dealership itself. The original poster is just worried about the cost of the parts, period.

Ok! I just checked my local dealer accessory costs and the TRD springs are $550 installed! I wonder how much it will cost him to have those same spings installed by his dealer if he supplies them himself?

Thanks for yelling at me, it did get my attention. :doh:
Didn't mean to "yell", sorry it came across that way! My interpretation was he was expecting the installation to be free, perhaps I misunderstood.

Beyond that, I'm really not expecting him to actually save any coin by supplying the parts himself, rather than having the dealer take care of it. The dealer will probably structure the installation cost as discounted when the parts are purchased from them. It's hard to imagine they would provide beneficial pricing if the parts were purchased elsewhere.

No problem, I took advantage of INSTALLATION in all caps to make a joke, that's just my sarcastic appreciation for you striking the cord that made me understand. I really did appreciate it. I think that sarcasm of mine may have gotten me in trouble with you in the past also, sorry man... we're all here to help each other out.

Ancient history -- I'm just really curious as to how this works out!

(Regarding springs, I got Eibach Pro-Kit for about $206 shipped and installed them myself -- took time and head-scratching, but that's my idea of a reasonable deal :)!)

Ok wow I was not expecting to cause all this. Ok I will try to explain and answer everybody’s questions. Ok the main reason why I am having the dealer install the springs is not for the warranty on the springs, it's that if something were to happen to the car while on the road to any other suspension part and the dealer could prove it was because of the springs and they were not install at the dealership and they are not a Toyota product (TRD) but at a random shop and non TRD product your warranty on your suspension is voided. So by having them be TRD spring and install at the dealer everything is covered. I am not buying them at the dealership because they want 425.00+tax for the springs and 325+tax to install so call it 800.00 for everything or I buy them at TRDsparks.com for 200.00 and have them installed at dealer for 325.00 for a total of 525.00 saving 275.00 I just think it is better to have the dealer install and not void anything. Plus I am saving some cash and yes I have talk to the dealer and they will install any TRD product even if it is not bought from the dealership.

I completely understand your warranty concerns, and that's all fine; however, front and rear spring install takes 1.5 hours, 2 hours if you're slow. (It took my non-Toyota mechanic 1 hour and 15 minutes working all by himself. Ask what their hourly labor rate is, because $325 for the install is a hose job.

Ok wow I was not expecting to cause all this. Ok I will try to explain and answer everybody’s questions. Ok the main reason why I am having the dealer install the springs is not for the warranty on the springs, it's that if something were to happen to the car while on the road to any other suspension part and the dealer could prove it was because of the springs and they were not install at the dealership and they are not a Toyota product (TRD) but at a random shop and non TRD product your warranty on your suspension is voided. So by having them be TRD spring and install at the dealer everything is covered. I am not buying them at the dealership because they want 425.00+tax for the springs and 325+tax to install so call it 800.00 for everything or I buy them at TRDsparks.com for 200.00 and have them installed at dealer for 325.00 for a total of 525.00 saving 275.00 I just think it is better to have the dealer install and not void anything. Plus I am saving some cash and yes I have talk to the dealer and they will install any TRD product even if it is not bought from the dealership.

Are you certain the dealer would actually charge $750 to supply and install the springs? My dealer posts $550 for the total cost and there shouldn't be much difference between dealers (a little maybe, but nothing like what you're quoting.) I just think you should verify that would be his charge for both springs and install as one job.

Ok boys I just got off the phone with the dealer and I was telling him about everything about your guys dealerships and they told me because they wanted to keep as a customer and sense I bought the car from them they would give me a discount on springs but not the labor so now it will cost me 575.00 foe everything 250.00 for the springs and 325.00 for labor which is closer to what your guys say your dealers will charge so that's a little better plus they have a set in stock right now and could install them tomorrow. So thanks for all you guys help sorry I stir up so much heat but at least it's good to know that we are here to help each other.

that's a LOT of money to install springs... if you're talking 80 bucks per hour to do springs, that's 4 hours. wayyyy too much in my opinion. negotiate more?

that's a LOT of money to install springs... if you're talking 80 bucks per hour to do springs, that's 4 hours. wayyyy too much in my opinion. negotiate more?

Dealers have the right to set whatever price they want for their services. Given that figure is at least in line with other SCION dealers for the same service, I would say there's little point in making further fuss.

Trevor, I respect your input about dealer pricing, but $325 for a spring install is BS at any dealership. I would say blow off this dealership, and go somewhere that is reasonable. This ISN'T (yell!, yell!, yell!) :shock:

That's all very well, but how the SCION dealer "divides" the accessory/install cost between the part and installation can be very flexible. And the typical posted total price appears to be in the neighborhood of $550. So if a split out labor was $200, one could then complain about the cost of the part at $375, or in this split, one can complain about the labor at $325. It would be simpler to just complain about the typical accessory/install cost charged by any SCION dealer, but then you're basically running into "pure pricing" (how much were you able to shave off the purchase price of your Scion?)

The solution is obvious -- don't have the dealer do the install! However, dealer installation is the specifc goal in this case! No problem, he can try ten different SCION dealers, but I doubt the total accessory/install cost will vary much.

Trevor, I respect your input about dealer pricing, but $325 for a spring install is BS at any dealership. I would say blow off this dealership, and go somewhere that is reasonable. This ISN'T (yell!, yell!, yell!) :shock:

No offense, but I'm noticing you keep coming back to this "yell" thing. I trust you appreciate there is a difference between keyboard yellng such as "I DID NOT!" and the normal use of caps simply to provide an emphasis. Highlighting a word CAN be helpful in getting a message understood -- but that doesn't make it "yelling". Capitalized, bold or italic letters can all be used for highlighting/emphasizing.

Sheesh, I was just having fun with you... or so I thought; sorry, I'll go away now.