Does anyone know how I can wire the foglights so that they are operable when the parking lights are on?

Also how can I wire the sidemarker lights to be on all the time when the parking lights are on?

Thank you very much.

The side marker reference is my project for the weekend. If I get through it, I'll post pics and write some instructions. It should only take about 10 minutes per side.

Alright cool. Thanks.

I'm about to do this myself - I'm gonna set it up so I can switch back to stock pretty easily.

I was going to run a write-up too but I'll see how etarui does first, maybe I can save some time not having to take pics :P

Does anyone know how I can wire the foglights so that they are operable when the parking lights are on?

Also how can I wire the sidemarker lights to be on all the time when the parking lights are on?

Thank you very much.

you can pm G-Nizzle and ask him about the fog lights...as for the side markers he sells a kit that allows the sidemarkers to run with the parking lights and it still flashes with the turn signals...

Ok...I did it last night. Here are the steps needed...and not kit required :lol:

1. Jack up the front (I did one side at a time)
2. Remove the 2 snaps and 1 bolt holding the fender liner in place
3. Pull the fender liner down enough to reach behind the side marker (from the inside) and twist off the light socket
4. Cut the negative wire completely
5. Strip the Negative wire on the end that is connected to the light socket
6. Solder a new wire to the negative that you just stripped
7. Run the wire through the fender well, up to the engine compartment by the headlight on the respective side you are working on
8. Remove the light socket from the turn signal
9. Strip (DO NOT CUT) the wire that sends power to the parking light (There are 3 wires: 1. Negative 2. Signal Power 3. Parking Light Power). I believe the wire was green with a red stripe. Use a Circuit Tester to confirm.
10. Solder the new wire you just brought to the engine bay to the stripped Parking Power wire
11. Replace everything back just as you took it apart.

So here's how it works:

When parking/head lights are off - There is no power to the side marker, so they stay off. When you signal, the new wire you ran to the parking lights acts as the negative since they are off, and power comes through the normal positive connection on the side marker, so they signal as normal.

When parking/head lights are on - The new wire you ran to the negative on the side marker acts as the positive, and the original positive wire acts as a negative since there is no power coming through, thus keeping the side markers lit constantly. When you signal, the original positive wire on the side marker turns positive, and the negative, which is now also positive, make the ground absent. This makes the side marker blink off and on in opposite relation to your actual turn signals.

Here are some pics. Let me know if you have any additional questions.

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/9487side1.gif
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/9487side2.gif

I thought you could take the sidemarker off without having to go at it from behind like that. Anyone know?

I'm sure you can. I just went in that way since I had to remove the fender liner to run the wire up to the Parking Light.

hmmm...looks interesting definately a spring time project....can I see a pic of the car with it on...like a side view...

~wC

Pics are kind of hard to see since it is dark and i didn't use a flash in the close-up...but here goes:

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/9487IMG_3516.jpg
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/9487IMG_3518.jpg

ok so now the $64,000 question is how much of a _____ would it be to do the rear side marker lights the same way?

~wC

same thing Wheel See, except wired to the rear blinker, when I cleared and flush mounted the red side markers, I wired them that way (but not my front fender lights)

Yup...should be the same process. Just cut the negative on the rear side marker, and run a positive line to it from the positive line in the rear signal tail light. It will go on as normal, and alternately blink off as your turn signals blink on.

and is it pretty easy to get to the rear side marker...

~wC

take off the 10mm bolt in the fender lip and pull the side of the bumper out from the body, reach in and undo the 10mm bolt/washer combo nut - then the lens can be pulled out.

(BTW - if your lens light burns out - you can't replace the bulb - you have to get an entirely new lens housing from the dealer... the bulb is not removable. Take it out and you'll understand what I mean.)

bastards....

~wC

:?: :? :?:

Toyota/Scion for designing like that...

~wC

oh yeah... my same first thought. I really think that light was an afterthought - the designers forgot to put it there for the US market (JDM's don't have it) and they just threw something on there - and it looks like it too, just a big red lens sitting ON the bumper. But back on topic - there are just two wires in the harness there too, wire the same as the directions above.

ok...yeah I've always thought that it looks rather Auto Zoneish too...it's huge and doesn't flow well with the rest of the car...is it a safety requirement? why even put it on the car

~wC

Yes...just get to the wires on the rear side marker. Locate the negative and cut it. Run a new wire to the negative on the end the bulb is at. Take the other end of that wire, and bring it up to the rear tail light wires. Locate the positive for the turn signal indicator. Splice the positive turn signal wire (DO NOT CUT), and attach/sodder the new wire to it. That should be it.

When the lights are off, the rear side marker will stay off. However, this one should now signal in an alternate pattern to your main signal (it didn't blink before but it now will).

When the lights are on, the rear side markers should come on again just as they did when stock. And when you signal, two sources of power should go to the bulb, turning it off because the circuit is not complete (lack of ground/negative). This will cause the rear side marker to blink off in an alternate patter to your main signal.

Hope this helps.

I knew if someone else posted that, I wouldn't have to. :)

I added more pictures in a new forum and you can see the side markers on a little better.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38393

is the negative wire on the turn signal red?

is the negative wire on the turn signal red?

No...I think it was white. I ran a red wire from the negative on the side marker up to the turn signal up front.

oh ok, so on #4 you are referring to the sidemarker light negative right?

Yes...cut the negative on the side marker socket. Then connect a new wire to the negative on the side where the bulb is, and run that to the turn signal.

THIS SHOULD BE IN THE TECH SECTION!!!!!!

YOU KICK ARSE!!!!!!

ok...yeah I've always thought that it looks rather Auto Zoneish too...it's huge and doesn't flow well with the rest of the car...is it a safety requirement? why even put it on the car

~wC

yeah its a reflector, side marker. if you notice some cars without them you'll see the tail light comes around the rear corner a bit showing RED light. since our xB tail light doesnt come around like it does on other cars USDM Law states a car must have front amber reflectors for sides and a rear Red reflector for the rear. our turnsignal side marker isnt even necessary because you can see the turn signal flashing and running without it. wow that was a lot of typing. did that make any sense?


it made sense when i typed this at 100 mph @ 5:45 in the morning

Does some one know how to put the fogs to turn on whit only the parkings lights. 8)

imma consider that mod...light up the side of the xb all night long

I think Inazuma did a good write up on the fogs. Check here:

http://members.cox.net/inazuma/fogs.htm

well i tried the mod, but i failed. my car does not signal anymore, i dont know what i did. I cut the white wire on the turn signal, and i stripped the green wire with the black stripe on the turn signal. i didnt find a green wire with a red stripe so i may have screwed up one of the wires. The weird thing is that i didnt cut any of the wires going to the turnsignal, i just stripped em, so i dont understand why my turnsignals L and R do not work, i was only working on the Leftside. The Signal Indicators in the dash dont even work. =( someone please help meeee...

well i tried the mod, but i failed. my car does not signal anymore, i dont know what i did. I cut the white wire on the turn signal, and i stripped the green wire with the black stripe on the turn signal. i didnt find a green wire with a red stripe so i may have screwed up one of the wires. The weird thing is that i didnt cut any of the wires going to the turnsignal, i just stripped em, so i dont understand why my turnsignals L and R do not work, i was only working on the Leftside. The Signal Indicators in the dash dont even work. =( someone please help meeee...

PM me your phone number. I think it will be easier to talk you through it.

Blown Fuse.

**For all who are not too familiar with how power works in a car**

Note that cars are grounded to their chasis (negative power). Be careful not to allow a hot wire (one with positive power) to touch anything metal on the car. If you do...you may blow a fuse.

i'm gonna have to do this mod. hopefully it will warm up a bit. how long does it all take?

Should only take about 20-30 min per side at most.

Should only take about 20-30 min per side at most.

right now its about 23 degrees outside. a little to cold to be out there that long. :(

yep blown fuses all right. I blew two more new fuses cause i forgot that my wires are still exposed. Im gonna get some electrical tape tomorrow to fix that, other then that it should work fine hopefully. etarui knows his ____ man, he even took time off work to call me and help me out. thanks

yeah its a reflector, side marker. if you notice some cars without them you'll see the tail light comes around the rear corner a bit showing RED light. since our xB tail light doesnt come around like it does on other cars USDM Law states a car must have front amber reflectors for sides and a rear Red reflector for the rear. our turnsignal side marker isnt even necessary because you can see the turn signal flashing and running without it. wow that was a lot of typing. did that make any sense? it made sense when i typed this at 100 mph @ 5:45 in the morning

Do you think any non-box drivers would even know the difference?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/windowtint/ClearMarker2.jpg

window...

where'd u get those?

~wC

eBay for the lens and dealership for the rest

dang that look sick..the fuji likes..sweet deal on that.

Just a tip: When it comes time to tap or solder (not CUT) the turn signal wire do the following. Go to an car audio place and ask them for a few T-taps. The T-tap is perfect for what your needing to do. It won't sever the wire but it will allow for a clean and quick connection between both wires.

So in doing this mod, my sidemarkers will stay on, but will also signal, right?

^yes!

I just did this mod and it looks and works great. Thanks etarui

same here!!

heres a pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/vei1side/nightxb.jpg

i just did this mod and everything works correctly. front sidemarker signals like normal. while parking lights are on they'll turn on, then they'll blink alternate to the front and rear signals. only thing is, when the hazard lights are on, the rear sidemarker and liscence plate bulbs will flash also, but its a very dim flash, not a real one. looks like its getting sparked or something. also when you lock/unlock car with remote, rearsidemarker and liscence plate bulbs will flash with the signals. anyone else have this problem and how could i fix that?