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signalxB
12-14-2004, 01:14 AM
Here are some updated pics of the custom JLinewheels.

http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom.jpg

and a pic of some really custom wheels just to show how wild they can go.

http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom01.jpg
http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom02.jpg

Let me know what you guys think.

squirrel
12-14-2004, 01:26 AM
Nice wheels! What size are the green center ones, and how much do they run?

scionlife
12-14-2004, 01:37 AM
Those green ones are sick!

projxB
12-14-2004, 01:42 AM
Those green ones are sick!

true that

quadoptix
12-14-2004, 02:07 AM
17's on the green one..thats stans xB. he's the owner of jline wheels/dtm kruez wheels thats his daily. u guys should see his a4 =)..yeah DAVE those r the wheels i showed u =)

signalxB
12-14-2004, 02:36 AM
depending on size and color the prices vary.

check out their site for more info:

http://www.jlinewheels.com

mikochu
12-14-2004, 02:51 AM
oh my. Those are hottastic! :D

Munch
12-14-2004, 02:59 AM
Sweet 8)

squirrel
12-14-2004, 03:00 AM
Man, I'm really feeling those highly polished 6RL2 16x8,9.5 wheels.

Hmm, are these 17s?

http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom02.jpg

I really like this look and stance.

quadoptix
12-14-2004, 03:04 AM
hey brad i jsut said that...if u want those wheels i do have the connect for them as i do sell wheels for stan =) heehee

QuestionMark
12-14-2004, 04:46 AM
I am feelin' both of those rides! Yo signalxB, what drop and offset you rollin' on?

signalxB
12-14-2004, 05:42 AM
I am feelin' both of those rides! Yo signalxB, what drop and offset you rollin' on?

I'm on Tanabe DF210s, 215/40/18 Falken GrBs, 18x8 Jline 62SL
not sure exactly what the offset is. I just told em I wanted it flushed with the fender. I am assuming it is 30+ up front and 20-25+ rear

I trimmed about 10mm off the rear fender. I like the stance but I might try a 205/40/18 tire next time.

MyBoX
12-14-2004, 06:43 AM
Do you have more close pics for the White car ?? Thanks Sean

chillenn310
12-15-2004, 09:53 PM
pretty dope..

signalxB
12-16-2004, 08:53 AM
Do you have more close pics for the White car ?? Thanks Sean

he needs a carwash, LOL!

just playin' Stan :wink:

quadoptix
12-16-2004, 09:08 AM
yep lol..its stans beater! haha the a4 is the one that stays clean =)

2tone_xB
12-16-2004, 01:38 PM
Sick sick sick and sickkkk.

Fujiz_xb
12-16-2004, 02:53 PM
hubba hubba hubba..

DJ_X_Trodinaire
12-16-2004, 03:11 PM
Whats the cost of them wheels?

nm i saw them

rims looks great!

squirrel
12-16-2004, 06:07 PM
DJ X, ask and you shall receive.

http://www.jlinewheels.com/pricing.html

I like the 6rl2s, in 17 inch w/ 8s up front and 9.5s in the rear, w/ polished centers.

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The only difficult part, besides the money, is deciding what offsets!

aLL_STaR_gene
12-16-2004, 07:19 PM
The only difficult part, besides the money, is deciding what offsets!

Any negative offset is perfect! :D

westsype
12-16-2004, 09:06 PM
DAMN! prices are not so bad! Volks might really be up for sale and scoop up some of these.

JDMbB
12-16-2004, 09:21 PM
are the retail prices on the site for the whole set?

Scionic
12-16-2004, 09:22 PM
And out of the blue another awesome wheel company arises. Those are sick wheels and the website and wheel options are topnotch.

squirrel
12-16-2004, 10:07 PM
are the retail prices on the site for the whole set?

The prices are PER wheels. They are made to order and take up to 6 weeks.

Remember how they made those two piece wheels on American Hotrod at the Coddington shop? Like that.

Centers added at the requested offset, then welded on the backside in place.

That way you can have a custom offset for your xB and not find someone else with the same exact wheel. Unless of course they choose the same offset as you.

hotbox05
12-16-2004, 11:05 PM
those are way beautiful. both of em. if only money grew on trees

Minsk99
12-17-2004, 03:59 AM
Nice wheels!

kitty_cat
12-17-2004, 09:03 AM
I love fat lips...

signalxB
12-17-2004, 06:49 PM
we want lip! we want lip! we want lip! :D

irv_usc
12-18-2004, 06:34 AM
nope. two piece wheels are not welded together. that doesn't make sense. then there's no reason for the rivets.

on a two piece wheel, the rim is one complete piece, with a removable center, which is held on with rivets.

on a three piece wheel, the rim is two pieces, and the face makes the third piece.

BCSxB925
12-18-2004, 08:40 AM
hella sick

MyBoX
12-18-2004, 09:16 AM
nope. two piece wheels are not welded together. that doesn't make sense. then there's no reason for the rivets.

on a two piece wheel, the rim is one complete piece, with a removable center, which is held on with rivets.

on a three piece wheel, the rim is two pieces, and the face makes the third piece.

What you said is the way it should be called, but in some of the high dolors wheels, like WORKS (Euroline series), They are two piece wheel but they weld them together, but they still have the rivets for look, Most of time when you have a option to order difffernt offsets, the wheels are multi piece and depending on the design they welded or riveted, but people like to call them 2-piece which is not :lol: Sean

quadoptix
12-18-2004, 11:07 AM
2 piece wheels work in different ways depending on the manufacturer..it doesnt always have to have rivets. j line 2 piece is 1 piece barrel 1 piece face barrel is machined to offset while face just denotes on pad setting and welded togethor..how i know this? i have a set and im friends w/ the owner =P

MyBoX
12-18-2004, 05:09 PM
2 piece wheels work in different ways depending on the manufacturer..it doesnt always have to have rivets. j line 2 piece is 1 piece barrel 1 piece face barrel is machined to offset while face just denotes on pad setting and welded togethor..how i know this? i have a set and im friends w/ the owner =P
I don't want to go off topic here, but how you would call them 2-piece if you can not seperate them?? lets say if you want to do any type of modification to the face, say deep the center in chrome, you can't just take them apart and put them back to gether but in 2-piece wheel you can do that, Sean

quadoptix
12-18-2004, 08:07 PM
i understand your pt...but it is technically still a 2 pc wheel. by construction its 2 piece. jlines are offered in just about any finish you can think of. polished, anodized, chromed, powdercoated, etc, so u just gotta order it up front. traditionally theres one, two, and three piece wheels. jlines arent technically one piece because a 1 piece rim is casted out of one aluminum or whatever material block. j lines are assembled which makes it a 2. sure its not a 2 piece like work, but its still 2 piece. everyones got their own definition on how a 2 piece should be, but theres also a technical definition that makes it what it is and not..if you really want to take rims apart and etc, get a THREE piece =)

quadoptix
12-18-2004, 08:10 PM
2 piece also doesnt mean it has to be seperated...every rim manfacturer is different on how they do things. IE dazz now for their multi piece racing hart line is all 2 piece now..no longer three unless its its old wheels. they do this to drop the cost of manufactuering. yes those face can be removed. Jline, iforged, hre, and a couple other companies do the 2 piece method that im talking bout. to me im fine w/ the way their 2 pc method is..if i wanted to change the middles out all the time, id just go THREE piece

BoomBox757
12-18-2004, 08:50 PM
damn those are some 'spensive wheels :shock:

quadoptix
12-18-2004, 08:56 PM
well worth the money though man =)

BoomBox757
12-18-2004, 08:58 PM
not to me, close to 1g each for some 19", that money can go to finishing my airbags and then getting the fab kit from you

quadoptix
12-18-2004, 09:03 PM
true. i dunno im old school and believe rims r 70% of the overall appearance of the car. but yeah i love jlines lol =P

2tone_xB
12-20-2004, 05:15 PM
The VIPrl2's are pretty schnazzy too.

squirrel
12-20-2004, 05:37 PM
Ok, I saw these wheels on Stan's xB this weekend at JGTC and they are AWESOME! Stan has the polar white xB and had his car on display at the Toyo Tires booth. I must apologize to Stan for leaving all of the drool on his ride.

hahajoey
12-20-2004, 06:00 PM
dang... jline wants a grip for some 2piece wheels...
volks and works charges a lil less for the same size/width
when it comes to 2 piece.

quadoptix
12-21-2004, 03:19 AM
thats msrp joey =P

hahajoey
12-21-2004, 04:00 AM
msrp for 19x10.5 volks are 730 for the SF WINNING's.

and i think most people can get a decent discount off the MSRP from volk.

anywhos.. nice wheels rich!

jonbee
12-21-2004, 09:20 PM
beauties!

hahajoey
12-22-2004, 06:30 PM
i never thought aquablue wheels will look like that!
thats just nuts!

JDMxB
12-22-2004, 08:03 PM
I heard that these are made by Giovanna...truth?

quadoptix
12-22-2004, 10:53 PM
yep, but w/ tougher QC...stan the owner of jline is ANAL retentive lol i know.

squirrel
12-23-2004, 02:11 AM
Mike, any word or info for me?

quadoptix
12-23-2004, 06:32 AM
oh sorry ill get right on it lol it totally left my mind.

squirrel
12-26-2004, 01:52 AM
oh sorry ill get right on it lol it totally left my mind.

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Got it Mike, I'll be in touch.

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 02:01 AM
I need offset numbers...Everyone is keeping them ultra-hush-hush and I don't know why...

They're just wheels guys, share with everyone so we can buy some wheels too...Ive been trying to pin down the perfect offset for a set of Work's I've been wanting to get, but to no avail. Someone please help a guy out! :evil:

squirrel
01-05-2005, 02:28 AM
Offsets are no secret, and I don't know who you are referring to as being secretive. Offsets depends on the width and the look you are striving for. I can tell you now that 18 inch Work wheels w/ 8 and 9 inch widths will cost you over $3k.

MyBoX
01-05-2005, 03:07 AM
As Brad said there is no secret if you know what you are doing whic I hope you know before spending $3k you should be able to figure it out, and also each manufacture has its own measuring for offset some of them go on reverse lip offset and some are regular lip offset so as long as you know the basics of offset you should be able to find what you are looking for, JDMP

chillenn310
01-05-2005, 03:32 AM
good point guys. you needa have an adequate knowledge of offsets to choose wheels. I had to ask a few co-workers and do a little research online to understand offsets. as for your set of works picklewagon, im guessin youre lookin into a 17 or 18 x 8, or 17 or 18 x 9.. perhaps maybe a staggered fitment. if youre lookin for lip, you definitely want that low offset. I know that work makes some really low offsets, but dont get too crazy, a 18x8 or x9 with a +10 offset would probably push your wheels out about 25-30mm. and with that much of your wheel sticking out, you'd probably need more than a camber kit/plate to fix your problem. also, look to be spending about $3-5k on work wheels, and be sure to take your time with the offsets, and ask as many people about fitment as you can. good luck.

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 04:31 AM
I've got the prices taken care of, that's not an issue...And the wheels are no where near $3 grand...And no, I'm going with smaller wheels...More like 15x8. I don't want flashy VIP wheels, I'm looking at the Work Equip 03's. They have several models of that wheel though, a normal face and a deep dish version. I of course want the latter. There is a guy on this site that had something similar at what I'm going for. I'm just worried that something with a lower offset number is actually going to stick out of my fender giving me that early 90's lowrider look...Which I don't want.

And for all the people that helped, thanks...Rest assured I'm not an 18 yr. old kid fixing up his first car. More like a 26 yr old military guy who's bored with what he has now.

EDIT: The reason why I posted originally, is because I contacted the owner of the white xB that sells the JLine wheels, and he would not disclose the offset #'s, claiming they were "confidential". I thought that was a bit rediculous and selfish, and decided not to do business with them for that reason alone.

formula02
01-05-2005, 05:19 AM
Contact Van or Jay from One Ton Garage. They will help you out with all the offsets and can get you the best price on Works! That is where I got Euroline DH's from.

www.onetongarage.com
van@onetongarage.com

Good Luck

chillenn310
01-05-2005, 05:22 AM
do you have pic of your euroline dh's??

MyBoX
01-05-2005, 05:56 AM
EDIT: The reason why I posted originally, is because I contacted the owner of the white xB that sells the JLine wheels, and he would not disclose the offset #'s, claiming they were "confidential". I thought that was a bit rediculous and selfish, and decided not to do business with them for that reason alone.
Usually when people don't like to give out info cause they don't have what they are claming so they can't proof it, but if someone post a pics they should expcet people ask question and they should be able to answer otherwise hey just don't post it, That's how I look at it. Take care Sean

JDMxB
01-05-2005, 06:20 AM
The guy is keeping his offset a "secret" because he doesn't even know it!

He keeps saying that he's not sure of the offset, but how could you order a set of expensive wheels like that and not know completely what you are buying.

My guess is that he just wanted a flush look--and still doesn't know the offset he has, but since they did all the work for him (even picked out his offsets and held them hostage from him) and he just handed them a check, you see the car you see now.

How can any company (Jline) expect customers to pay their prices and yet they can't even answer a simple question about their OWN wheels? So rediculous--he swares he is something special, again, these are just GIOVANNA wheels trying to cash in on the "ohhhhhhhhhh JDM!" trend that is going around--thus create a new line of wheels with neat big lips that all the people want and charge and arm and a leg and don't answer questions when asked. Seems like same old Giovanna practice to me.

Bottom line, why spend such a large amount of money on these things, when the owner clearly doesn't respect it's customer base--when you can spend the same amount and get tried and tested wheels from good manufacturers such as Volk Racing/Work Super Wheels/etc. etc.

quadoptix
01-05-2005, 06:25 AM
are we speaking of hte white jlin xb? that doesnt know his offsets?

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 06:26 AM
To all the people that posted after me...THANK YOU for real, and helpful answers. I have sent an email to the onetongarage website...I am actually excited to hear his response!

JDMxB
01-05-2005, 06:28 AM
are we speaking of hte white jlin xb? that doesnt know his offsets?

The white Jline xB, when asked about what his offsets were, replied with "it's confidential information, can't give it out".

That can be understood by reading the previous post, at least from what I understand.

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 06:29 AM
are we speaking of hte white jlin xb? that doesnt know his offsets?

I didn't say he didn't know them, he wouldn't disclose the numbers to me...He said they were "confidential" or some ____ like that.

The poster of this thread doesn't know his offsets...I think that's the confusion.

quadoptix
01-05-2005, 06:31 AM
and as for stan the owner of jline posting the pics..hes not even on this site...a customer of his posted the picsof his car. not him. oh btw, he does know his offsets n widths on his wheels..he does his own measurements as well as any customer that wants to get a custom offset done. he asks you what u want, how u want hte wheel to sit, and then measures up your car and starts doing the math. how do i know? Stan (jline owner) also has the same rims badged DTM Kreuz. I owned a set for my mercedes, and a lot of my friends have them for their euros. stans wheels quality and strength are great. he doesnt release the offsets of his wheels because its business. IE he gives out the 411 and you go out n order iforges, volks, works, or whatever w/ the same measurements..u just jacked his offsets and wasted his time. if you truly are serious bout the wheels, he will be serious w/ you

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 06:37 AM
u just jacked his offsets and wasted his time. if you truly are serious bout the wheels, he will be serious w/ you

Since when did wheel measurements become guarded secrets? Sounds like he's trying to corner an unnatainable market.

Tell you what, when I get my wheels I'll post up several pictures complete with detailed specs of measurements, diameters, and even tire pressure...Hows that?

JDMxB
01-05-2005, 06:50 AM
C'mon man--you are telling me that people actually look to his pictures just so they can order offsets of different wheels?!

If people have the money to buy wheels like volk, etc--I would hope they have the brain to do their own research as well as get offset numbers from multiple sources--and not just a phone call to stan.

The real reason why he doesn't disclose it--is because he wants to be a jerk, and not have people bite his "style".

Sorry--aqua blue Jlines aren't exactly my style...but what do I know, i'm just a ricer anyway right?

Drop the superiority complex--it's making Jline look like a bunch of idiots.

quadoptix
01-05-2005, 07:11 AM
u just jacked his offsets and wasted his time. if you truly are serious bout the wheels, he will be serious w/ you

Since when did wheel measurements become guarded secrets? Sounds like he's trying to corner an unnatainable market.

Tell you what, when I get my wheels I'll post up several pictures complete with detailed specs of measurements, diameters, and even tire pressure...Hows that?


cool good for you.

what i mean is if you want his setup...do ur own measurements. thats what he did. dont take sh*t so personal. its amazing how personal people get over the net. its great u want to share ur info over the net. some people dont thats them. hooray if u do

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 02:16 PM
cool good for you.

what i mean is if you want his setup...do ur own measurements. thats what he did. dont take sh*t so personal. its amazing how personal people get over the net. its great u want to share ur info over the net. some people dont thats them. hooray if u do

Yeah hooray for me because I'm a cool guy, I don't guard wheel offsets cause I'm scared someone is going to "bite" my style so I don't win the Import Ho-off trophy. I'm here to help people, not shine them on when they need help. Things that need to be kept secret are things like sleeping with your buddies girlfriends, or how much money you make...Not wheel sizes. I can see if he put some huge effort into measuring wheels, but it probably took him a few minutes worth of work. If it makes a difference he should go into the offset business and charge people five bucks per wheel that he measures... :?

squirrel
01-05-2005, 03:25 PM
If you are getting Equip 03's, and you know the look that YOU want, the business that's ordering it should be able to give you some guidance as to what offset will work and what is available.

With 15x8 you'll prolly want an offset around +30 for flush fit.

I bet the business you're ordering from didn't even suggest that. :shock:

And you can let everyone know a 40 year old Senior Drill SGT gave you this info. :roll:

I've got the prices taken care of, that's not an issue...And the wheels are no where near $3 grand...And no, I'm going with smaller wheels...More like 15x8. I don't want flashy VIP wheels, I'm looking at the Work Equip 03's. They have several models of that wheel though, a normal face and a deep dish version. I of course want the latter. There is a guy on this site that had something similar at what I'm going for. I'm just worried that something with a lower offset number is actually going to stick out of my fender giving me that early 90's lowrider look...Which I don't want.

And for all the people that helped, thanks...Rest assured I'm not an 18 yr. old kid fixing up his first car. More like a 26 yr old military guy who's bored with what he has now.

EDIT: The reason why I posted originally, is because I contacted the owner of the white xB that sells the JLine wheels, and he would not disclose the offset #'s, claiming they were "confidential". I thought that was a bit rediculous and selfish, and decided not to do business with them for that reason alone.

OKIHost
01-05-2005, 03:53 PM
I have seen quite a few retarded things on the net and I must say 'guarding' your offset numbers takes the cake.

I wonder if he actually has them in a vault or a safe deposit box at fort knox :) anyhow screw jline I would not buy ____ from them just judging from the feedback I have heard so far.

signalxB
01-05-2005, 04:25 PM
man! everyone take things too damn seriously.

I know I wanted a good sized lip and a flush look to my wheels and ride. why would it matter if I dont care what the offset is if I'm happy with them. I shopped around. I did my research before I handed them a check. I'm not that stupid.

I assume they are between 20-30+ DONE! There is enough information around the net for anyone to find out what they "PERSONALLY" want.

What it all comes down to, at least for me is "the LOOK" I am going for.

So have your opinions and to each his own. I am a satisfied customer.

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 04:57 PM
If you are getting Equip 03's, and you know the look that YOU want, the business that's ordering it should be able to give you some guidance as to what offset will work and what is available.

With 15x8 you'll prolly want an offset around +30 for flush fit.

I bet the business you're ordering from didn't even suggest that. :shock:

And you can let everyone know a 40 year old Senior Drill SGT gave you this info. :roll:



I haven't even contacted a supplier yet because I want to know all the facts before I entrust someones opinion on the phone with a $2000 set of wheels...So, you are correct in your statement that they didn't suggest it, because I have yet to contact anyone.

And FYI, the reason I brought my age up is because people automatically assume you're a kid if you own a Scion and treat you as such...I was getting reactions like "yeah this is some kid dreaming of owning pricey wheels..." etc. and I wanted real world answers, not bull____ assumtions from people entertaining some 17yr olds pipe dreams. Maybe as a 40 yr old Sr Drill Sgt you can see that...

irv_usc
01-05-2005, 04:57 PM
wait, so why is everyone crying about offset? it's not a secret, sure the jline guy may be guarding his numbers because it's his work.. big deal? offset takes what, 5 minutes to measure?

look up offset on the internet. the space from the mounting face of the wheel to the outside edge. you know the size of the wheel you want, so all you need to measure is the distance from your brake rotor's mounting hub out to whereever you want the wheel to sit.

it's not brain surgery. for example, the guy that posted his 17x8 volk gt-7's a while ago did show that he was able to use +26 offset in the front.. just start with those numbers and go?

squirrel
01-05-2005, 05:13 PM
Picklewagon, take a chill pill.

If you go thru a Work wheel distributor like Auto RnD, you don't have to worry about "entrusting someone's opinion". Rishie and his crew are more than well versed at what they do.

You were the one that stated:

I need offset numbers...Everyone is keeping them ultra-hush-hush and I don't know why...

They're just wheels guys, share with everyone so we can buy some wheels too...Ive been trying to pin down the perfect offset for a set of Work's I've been wanting to get, but to no avail. Someone please help a guy out!

But I didn't see a wheel width. I can see that!

You just can't go and ask a question about what offset will work unless you also post a wheel width.

So before you start in on other peeps and saying they are keeping secrets, why don't you read the WHOLE reply before responding.

JDMxB
01-05-2005, 05:44 PM
Everyone makes valid points...but let me ask each and every one of you this.

Say you show up to a car meet, and are just walking around checking out all the rides, trying to enjoy yourself...you come upon a nice lookiing car with some sick wheels.

You proceed to greet the owner, and inquire about the offset of his wheels, because you think they look trick and would just like to know what he did to get the look--common practice, no?

He replies to your question with "sorry man, that's my own info, I can't tell you because it's confidential information".

You are telling me that you would be fine and ok with someone saying that to you...? And you WOULDN'T think this guy is a little bit a jerk?!

And here is the KICKER--the guy who blew you off-- is the SALESPERSON FOR THE FREAKIN WHEELS.

squirrel
01-05-2005, 06:05 PM
Everyone makes valid points...but let me ask each and every one of you this.

Say you show up to a car meet, and are just walking around checking out all the rides, trying to enjoy yourself...you come upon a nice lookiing car with some sick wheels.

You proceed to greet the owner, and inquire about the offset of his wheels, because you think they look trick and would just like to know what he did to get the look--common practice, no?

He replies to your question with "sorry man, that's my own info, I can't tell you because it's confidential information".

You are telling me that you would be fine and ok with someone saying that to you...? And you WOULDN'T think this guy is a little bit a jerk?!

And here is the KICKER--the guy who blew you off-- is the SALESPERSON FOR THE FREAKIN WHEELS.

Maybe when the question was asked, the wheels weren't ready to be released to the public? Maybe the guy said it jokingly? Maybe the details weren't finalized yet?

When I took a tour of the different MOMO plants in Italy back in '89, there were alot of products I saw that I wasn't given info about. Mainly in the R&D dept.

All I know is, which isn't very much, just about everything I learned about offset came from the internet, and having friends who work/own tire shops.

quadoptix
01-05-2005, 06:25 PM
Everyone makes valid points...but let me ask each and every one of you this.

Say you show up to a car meet, and are just walking around checking out all the rides, trying to enjoy yourself...you come upon a nice lookiing car with some sick wheels.

You proceed to greet the owner, and inquire about the offset of his wheels, because you think they look trick and would just like to know what he did to get the look--common practice, no?

He replies to your question with "sorry man, that's my own info, I can't tell you because it's confidential information".

You are telling me that you would be fine and ok with someone saying that to you...? And you WOULDN'T think this guy is a little bit a jerk?!

And here is the KICKER--the guy who blew you off-- is the SALESPERSON FOR THE FREAKIN WHEELS.


totally understand u htere jason..let me bring up a question myself...i have dealt w/ a lot of people in my time w/ the whole car parts business. people that call me askin info and not one question on pricing, usually just want 411 and go huntin for the stuff elsewhere... stan's gotten that a lot in the past cause he use to own a shop himself. he's just tired of the same thing i am. He's known in the euro community and granted, he's not number one person to give out every detail on what he does wether its his wheels or some other product, but he still does well for himself. If you dont want his wheels, then just dont get them. If you want the offsets so bad just go measure it out. nah i mean jason? people on the net need to stop takin sh*t seriously, and i dont mean u jason i know ur level bout all this.

In short if u want the offsets why dont u just go measure it up yourself? It's not THAT hard.

signalxB
01-05-2005, 06:26 PM
Everyone makes valid points...but let me ask each and every one of you this.

Say you show up to a car meet, and are just walking around checking out all the rides, trying to enjoy yourself...you come upon a nice lookiing car with some sick wheels.

You proceed to greet the owner, and inquire about the offset of his wheels, because you think they look trick and would just like to know what he did to get the look--common practice, no?

He replies to your question with "sorry man, that's my own info, I can't tell you because it's confidential information".

You are telling me that you would be fine and ok with someone saying that to you...? And you WOULDN'T think this guy is a little bit a jerk?!

And here is the KICKER--the guy who blew you off-- is the SALESPERSON FOR THE FREAKIN WHEELS.

Is it common practice for Wheel Companies to give out custom offset information to just anyone? Wonder if HRE gives out offset information.

and... he did say " sorry man" :oops:

picklewagon
01-05-2005, 07:02 PM
So before you start in on other peeps and saying they are keeping secrets, why don't you read the WHOLE reply before responding.

Actually...He emailed ME with the "I do not disclose offset information" so it's not heresay, I have the email right in front of me...Take it how you want, I'll take it how I want. I'm not getting excited, I'm just saying it turned me off to their bisuness, that's all.

showpaojoe
01-06-2005, 04:00 AM
Who gives a fawk anymore...he probably saw that because you had no clue about were to begin, you weren't a serious customer (even though that sounds bad but it's common business practice). I do the same ____ when people ask about engine parts for the xB, I've only given in-depth information to 2 out of 30 people.

bottomline...did you get a response from onetongarage? Just stick to them. They will help you out more than anyone else when it comes to scion offsets.

And I would run DTM rims anyday of the week. Those have always been my dream rims...not HRE (I can't stand HRE), not Works, and definitly not Volks cuz every car nowadays has Volks. But DTM is like the euro wet dream of wheels and since Jline IS DTM...well I hope you still consider Jline as one of your choices because they are in fact sick wheels.

picklewagon
01-06-2005, 05:11 AM
bottomline...did you get a response from onetongarage? Just stick to them. They will help you out more than anyone else when it comes to scion offsets.


Onetongarage aka Van has been the absolutely most helpful thus far. He sent me an in depth email and is serious about helping me...Now that gets business from me. I don't know much about wheels I'll admit because I come from an extensive history of Hondas. With those you slap on a 15x7 or 15x6 and call it a day. Ask me anything about D or B series and I can go off for days...Just don't know ____ about wheel offsets, etc.

Anyhow, he seems like he's going to handle all of my questions so the problem is handled. Call me a _____, but I'm done with the JLine wheels...I want a true JDM wheel, and Work is as Japanese as you can get. Super high quality, and a great look.

hahajoey
01-06-2005, 08:21 AM
honestly, i was considering some jline wheels till it dawned to me,.. i'll be just like those HRE, I-FORGE idiots who think that their kustom wheels are the ____..
lol
when in reality, their quality doesn't even compare, go figure why work, volk, and ss-r's have been around for SOOOO LONG, and are sold WORLD WIDE, and are wanted by EVERYONE(well not everyone)..

u know? i just think hre's and iforge's are for suckers. thats just my opinion. i bet we got people who are gonna tell me how 'wrong' i am coming up right now.

Toy_xbox
01-06-2005, 03:49 PM
I looked at HRE, Iforge, DTM and still went with Work. IMO they are still on top of the game.

I was fortunate to use these very limited 2 piece Ro_Ja wheels from Denny of Crossfire Audio for a recent project. If these were available I would have a set of these over any of the HRE, Iforge or DTM wheels.

I should have some pic's of the Work Seeker cX wheels soon I ordered 18x8 25mm front and 18x8.5 20mm rear

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwBDA7YTRpQWzvgajTxISf6IlLY*c4l*8*L6Vh2cENnO9J0n4N7F9CsRjRkiq2mrmcPee6wRKM47mqlt8TAjWEOENG5v15Hu*ojCjHr!KE4/Damd7.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwDfArUTCZSyPEcc45ldOrBOq30NJK7wLIpcHyes0o1IQ6xtJeFWgMthP5bHSjRCro4!M36zZ7ti3wTrwE7AEau2H2m2c9ck4Ep!B*Fw5sc/Damd6.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwAAALgTwJR2kIVD6pReY0cquiO7uGb3QKIrcn*UIL5jw*kS6DU5ZKtdq79vuVkSC4EkKmxXHj87SXKe1l6FDwAzIKY7pb4C*CM!9wZGHAM/Damd9.jpg

scionmilktruck
01-06-2005, 04:20 PM
Ok guys and gals,
I'm coming on the tail end of this post. I tried to read it all, but there was alot useless posts (No offense :roll: ). I will pose a few simple questions that I need answered.

1. I have Van's OneTon shims installed on my box. What's the offset that I need now to make these wheels flush? :?

2. Based on that info I am interested in some 18x8 wheels so I can get a nice lip :shock: .What's the price on the wheels shown above in those specs?

Remember just the facts...Thanks :wink:

Toy_xbox
01-06-2005, 04:45 PM
Unfortunately these Ro_Ja wheels are not available. However I ran 19x8 40mm Axis spiders with OTG spacers and this is how it looked. I did have to roll the lip to avoid rubbing, you might not have to do that with 18’s… it also depends on how low you are. I have coilovers and the way that the spiders are made if gives a nice lip, I think that Axis has a Maxis lip available to get more.

If I remember correctly my rims and tires were around $2k give or take …

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SACJAlIWoUOCgIZ**yDfIKFVXx17VtRIsQi2wd6LWaW!Gp5t1TbkQSirDf3R9FdFZtQiJkxEOoly1*4!DhJ8yjqOUQkVfTDqBzWeyjQaYaEzAAAAynI___/axle_spacer.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgAAAOQWyns*q3c2994ql6ODMgvdTyX3grS1OkdtdqR7fkvyhAbKumEtmDbir4JT!jiWPH*dSCclKYpuqO0AdSFzUZkOph7nbfSlnvbrClKWL5cba9U0Ww/HKS%20profile%204.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgAAAOMWjns*q3c2994ql6ODMgvdTyX3wYUCrlPE28R!W*NG7Yk7aTh0kvDQBC5Sh!6CLa7HRjkEBISf9SF2I5hgPqo!bzmON8PtwUmgmq5Di8JzNuCNIg/HKS%20profile%203.jpg

scionmilktruck
01-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Thanks...I am actually dropped 2".

signalxB
01-06-2005, 05:00 PM
honestly, i was considering some jline wheels till it dawned to me,.. i'll be just like those HRE, I-FORGE idiots who think that their kustom wheels are the ____..
lol
when in reality, their quality doesn't even compare, go figure why work, volk, and ss-r's have been around for SOOOO LONG, and are sold WORLD WIDE, and are wanted by EVERYONE(well not everyone)..

u know? i just think hre's and iforge's are for suckers. thats just my opinion. i bet we got people who are gonna tell me how 'wrong' i am coming up right now.

why not have em both? :wink: if money wasn't an issue, and you were serious to buy, this wouldn't even be an issue. imo.

SWiSS
01-06-2005, 05:50 PM
i need a fat lip in chrome... hmmm

quadoptix
01-07-2005, 12:55 AM
take off the shim spacer so u can get a set of wheels to get more lip =)

MyBoX
01-07-2005, 01:37 AM
take off the shim spacer so u can get a set of wheels to get more lip =)

I think he got some BIG plans :lol: :lol: :lol: and they are here !!! JDMP

squirrel
01-07-2005, 03:15 AM
SWiSS got PHAT CHROME lip!?!

hahajoey
01-07-2005, 06:14 AM
scionmilktruck, the width of a rim DOES impact the lip,
but the offset is what the trick is. usually i would say u run wider so that when u get to a lower offset,
your tires are more stretched to clear the fender.
8" wide in front and 9" wide in rear is not that hard to fit on a xb,
even at a 20 or 25 offset.

Toy_xbox
01-07-2005, 03:55 PM
cha - bling :D

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SAAVAyEVEflHESfpiA7W0DLURcJxh6dgK5r4NABKnaYRL9K0hW2DXDFYGA2wdcevFOqcM81LXQIy998*uQzAtnzDe8uiz64F28iipU00Pg5GAAAAynJ5Ag/Work%20cX1.jpg

hahajoey
01-07-2005, 05:35 PM
nice choice in rims. im tired of seeing 1piece rims, and im tired of hearing the owners of them talk like they know what a OFFSET is on a 1 piece wheel designed for a honda.

good job dave

hahajoey
01-07-2005, 05:37 PM
hey dave, i see u're running 215/40 right?
whats the width and offset front/rear?
i think everyone including myself can benefit from that info.

i was always thinking... if i went wider, can i run a 215/40
since it'll be stretched more? i think you'll answer that one

Toy_xbox
01-07-2005, 06:03 PM
hey dave, i see u're running 215/40 right?
whats the width and offset front/rear?
i think everyone including myself can benefit from that info.

i was always thinking... if i went wider, can i run a 215/40
since it'll be stretched more? i think you'll answer that one

Front 18x8 25mm wrapped with Nitto Neo Gen 205/40/18zr

Rear 18x8.5 20mm wrapped with Nitto Neo Gen 215/40/18zr

On these wheels I think I could of went with a 9" rim and a -3 degree camber plate on the rear, but I wanted to be able to do roadtrips and this ride might be a little pampered but it aint no "Trailer Queen" :wink: 8)

I think a safe size is what I got... I will know more after I get a couple hundred miles on them. I would like to point out that talking to Van, Denny, Mike Ma, SE crew and even yourself helped me on my wheel and tire size decision. So props to ya all but I do hope this helps everyone else who are going to spend some $$$$$$ on a good set of rims and tires.

peterbilt
01-07-2005, 06:15 PM
Here are some updated pics of the custom JLinewheels.

http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom.jpg

and a pic of some really custom wheels just to show how wild they can go.

http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom01.jpg
http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom02.jpg

Let me know what you guys think.

why am I just now seeing these?

these wheels are sick - i hate you. these are so sick.
hmmm anyone want to buy some slightly used motegi FF7's?

squirrel
01-07-2005, 06:36 PM
Nice Dave! Can't wait to see those in person.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SAAVAyEVEflHESfpiA7W0DLURcJxh6dgK5r4NABKnaYRL9K0hW2DXDFYGA2wdcevFOqcM81LXQIy998*uQzAtnzDe8uiz64F28iipU00Pg5GAAAAynJ5Ag/Work%20cX1.jpg

bigbabyaggie99
01-08-2005, 03:18 AM
I like the wheels posted in here.

miamijdm
01-08-2005, 04:31 PM
honestly, i was considering some jline wheels till it dawned to me,.. i'll be just like those HRE, I-FORGE idiots who think that their kustom wheels are the ____..
lol
when in reality, their quality doesn't even compare, go figure why work, volk, and ss-r's have been around for SOOOO LONG, and are sold WORLD WIDE, and are wanted by EVERYONE(well not everyone)..

u know? i just think hre's and iforge's are for suckers. thats just my opinion. i bet we got people who are gonna tell me how 'wrong' i am coming up right now.

I guess im a big time sucker because YOU don't like HRE or Iforged wheels. I just read this post and I really like the wheels on the first white scion. It looks like a perfect offset and the right stance. But you my friend are not the brightest person here. I understand this a scion and its a low priced vehicle, but to say HRE and other custom forged wheels are for idiots is a pretty dumb comment. Most mercedes and high line vehicles choose custom forged wheels as their choice. If the problem is about the money, don't hate on the wheels cause their expensive.. I don't think im the only one that thinks they look good. peace.

btw.. I have HRE's on my scion.

GOT_JDM
01-08-2005, 05:06 PM
BCP RULEZ!

http://www.signalschematix.com/bBxBs/jlinecustom.jpg
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/106170092.jpg

hahajoey
01-08-2005, 10:24 PM
I guess im a big time sucker because YOU don't like HRE or Iforged wheels. I just read this post and I really like the wheels on the first white scion. It looks like a perfect offset and the right stance. But you my friend are not the brightest person here. I understand this a scion and its a low priced vehicle, but to say HRE and other custom forged wheels are for idiots is a pretty dumb comment. Most mercedes and high line vehicles choose custom forged wheels as their choice. If the problem is about the money, don't hate on the wheels cause their expensive.. I don't think im the only one that thinks they look good. peace.

btw.. I have HRE's on my scion.

yes we know u have HRE's and yes because we can't afford them(or at least me)
thats why im jealous of u. just because 'most people' do somehting, doesn't
mean that it is everyone's taste. ever heard of the term bandwagon?

i can't believe u have the balls to put, don't hate because MY wheels are expensive.
hahaha thats just hilarious. sorry but i still don't like your wheels, never did, never will.

hre's are just a bunch of hype in my eyes, and im sure u think otherwise(thats why u have them). everyone has their own opinion about rims, and other things. as u stated, im not very bright, maybe thats why i think your car isn't even all that.
so go shove it mr. big head. :D

quadoptix
01-08-2005, 10:28 PM
okay that post was useless. =) joey i know u like ur japanese wheels n yes u do have nice wheels. just let it go man quit being so angryat the world

BoomBox757
01-09-2005, 01:33 AM
I agree with joey, I don't think they are that hot, its just a name

miamijdm
01-10-2005, 01:33 PM
I guess im a big time sucker because YOU don't like HRE or Iforged wheels. I just read this post and I really like the wheels on the first white scion. It looks like a perfect offset and the right stance. But you my friend are not the brightest person here. I understand this a scion and its a low priced vehicle, but to say HRE and other custom forged wheels are for idiots is a pretty dumb comment. Most mercedes and high line vehicles choose custom forged wheels as their choice. If the problem is about the money, don't hate on the wheels cause their expensive.. I don't think im the only one that thinks they look good. peace.

btw.. I have HRE's on my scion.

yes we know u have HRE's and yes because we can't afford them(or at least me)
thats why im jealous of u. just because 'most people' do somehting, doesn't
mean that it is everyone's taste. ever heard of the term bandwagon?

i can't believe u have the balls to put, don't hate because MY wheels are expensive.
hahaha thats just hilarious. sorry but i still don't like your wheels, never did, never will.

hre's are just a bunch of hype in my eyes, and im sure u think otherwise(thats why u have them). everyone has their own opinion about rims, and other things. as u stated, im not very bright, maybe thats why i think your car isn't even all that.
so go shove it mr. big head. :D

wow.. I didn't realize that I was responding to the same person that I had this argument with before. I'm just going to sit back and watch you put this on all the other forums that exist and watch them flame you for being an idiot.. peace.

hahajoey
01-11-2005, 05:45 AM
are they gonna flame on me? or are they gonna flame on YOU for being a conceited moron?

obviously i already have 1 person that agrees with me.
so sit back and watch.

miamijdm
01-11-2005, 01:42 PM
okay that post was useless. =) joey i know u like ur japanese wheels n yes u do have nice wheels. just let it go man quit being so angryat the world

...

squirrel
01-11-2005, 02:24 PM
okay that post was useless. =) joey i know u like ur japanese wheels n yes u do have nice wheels. just let it go man quit being so angryat the world
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BoomBox757
01-12-2005, 02:04 AM
I still agree with it, no matter if yall think its useless or not

MyBoX
01-12-2005, 07:17 AM
I like HRE and would run them any day but no on my box and I don't think there is anything wrong with them atlease you pay for some nice Multi Piece wheels but I think they made these for high class euro cars not our little box, its just my thought but hey if that's what you like more power to you. JDMP

hahajoey
01-12-2005, 08:05 AM
HRE's are seen constantly on honda's and acura's who run WiDEBODY, as well as euro cars.

there are many rim makers such are HAMANN, BRABUS, AMG, LOWENHART, MAYA, etc that make rims MULTIPiECE
for those 'hi end luxury cars'. i dont have a problem with hre's.
i just think theres a lot of hype behind them. just like WRX's and NEON SRT-4's. u take away the speed, and u're left with a corolla with a hoodscoop or kia rio with a big wing.

u'll always find your share of people who still think its a bad car, BUT there are people out there who know and think that its just a car that has nothing but speed.

HRE's are quality rims, but i just don't like the hype. they're not hard to get, they're easy to order, whereas some rare jdm wheels or euro rims are hard to come by.

everyone has their flavor, and their tastes, thats why cars come in all sorts of trims, colors, options, etc.

signalxB
01-28-2005, 11:22 PM
Any fatlip and offset lovers got pics of their rides to share with the scion community?

squirrel
01-28-2005, 11:24 PM
Man, I saw some J-lines on a 240 this past weekend at JDM Theory, nice, very nice.

signalxB
01-28-2005, 11:29 PM
Man, I saw some J-lines on a 240 this past weekend at JDM Theory, nice, very nice.

yeah that was mark from driftunit. his car is what turned me on to those wheels. but I'm looking to getting something new :wink:

squirrel
01-28-2005, 11:38 PM
Man, I saw some J-lines on a 240 this past weekend at JDM Theory, nice, very nice.

yeah that was mark from driftunit. his car is what turned me on to those wheels. but I'm looking to getting something new :wink:

Rich,

Yes, that was the car! I'm trying to save my pennies for some J-lines in staggered offset. I got the rear camber plates now, just need the wheels to finish off the look.

Not working SUX! Especially when there is beaucoup OT to be had.

projxB
01-29-2005, 01:00 AM
i just saw the white jline xB driving on my way home from work, right down the street from my house. he must work by here. it looked good. i tried to catch up to him but traffic is a beotch.

NCP31
02-01-2005, 11:47 PM
I thinking SDMsl2 in 15x8 front and 15x10 rear. With gold centers, of course. :P

Anyone have some box flares for sale?!?! :rofl:

squirrel
02-01-2005, 11:49 PM
I thinking SDMsl2 in 15x8 front and 15x10 rear. With gold centers, of course. :P

Anyone have some box flares for sale?!?! :rofl:

How about some cf fender flares to match the wing? :lalala:

NCP31
02-02-2005, 01:27 AM
If they're wide enough to fit 15x10s......or at least 15x8 I might be interested. :silly:

-Ken

squirrel
02-02-2005, 04:15 AM
I'll find out for you.