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Old 10-05-2008, 07:39 AM
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i know its a 4 cyl engine, but with 2.4l, we should have gobs of torque. this is a revv happy engine, but has not torque below 3500 rpm. my older nissan sentra with the sr20de 2.0l had more torque, even with lower hp.

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i so would've bought a turbo diesel xb2 if it were an option.
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Go buy a v8 if you want torque. What do you expect from a low compression inline 4 with no forced induction?
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Hmmm... I come from a chevy 5.7 v8... and i personally think the xB is quick and takes hills with ease... i am amazed at how muh better it is then 90% of the other cars i have driven...
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Yeah the weight of the car, low compression ratio, and 4 cylinder all add up to make it feel slightly torque-less. This car seems to be nice in the mid-range though
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it also depends if yours a auto or 5spd. i think it's good enough for a heavy eco box. i drove from L.A. to S.F. w/o stressing the car. it goes uphill quite smooth enough if i want to speed up just drop a gear or 2 and it just pull right away. btw mines a 5spd
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I wish these xb's had the option of turbos from the factory. Like the srt-4s. Stage 1, 2 or 3. That would of been cool. Not the biggest turbo but its a turbo and would of been a good option since its only a 4 cylinder
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^ come on... really? SCIONS are cheap, economical cars that YOU can customize... Slaping a turbo on a 4 banger in the factory is not their thing.. Thats what dodge does by throwing a turbo on a neon...
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Some people are catching on. Chevy is putting a turbo in their HHR from the factory. I was just saying it would of been a cool option since they market these "cheap" cars to the younger crowds. Theres nothing wrong with that. The Stage 3 Srt-4 will kick some ___ on the street. Trust me i know Scion will never come out with something really kick ___ from the factory, yes they are cheap. But if they ever wanna step up their game there gonna have to do something kick ___ to keep up with the market.
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its a 4 cyl work horse economy engine, where do you expect the torque to be? why does it have to arrive below 3500 rpms? just downshift to 4000 rpms where torque peaks and your good to go. just don't upshift so early all the time.
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Originally Posted by ATxB
Some people are catching on. Chevy is putting a turbo in their HHR from the factory.
I actually thought about trading in my xb2 for an HHR SS. 100 hp/tq more and is rated to get the same gas mileage as the xb2. That and it has the 100,000k powertrain warranty.

But I figured I'd just boost mine eventually and keep the great resale value scions have.
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^ ya only problem is you will be buying a chevy... and this is coming from a chevy guy... lol
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Originally Posted by ATxB
I wish these xb's had the option of turbos from the factory. Like the srt-4s. Stage 1, 2 or 3. That would of been cool. Not the biggest turbo but its a turbo and would of been a good option since its only a 4 cylinder

well they do make the s/c..ill let u know how that is in about a month
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don't turbo help increase more torque compared to s/c?
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
its a 4 cyl work horse economy engine, where do you expect the torque to be? why does it have to arrive below 3500 rpms? just downshift to 4000 rpms where torque peaks and your good to go. just don't upshift so early all the time.
IMO, that 2.4L is pretty torquey for a Japanese mill, it has an unusually long stroke (Harley anyone?)! That little guy can seriously move in my opinion -- all you have to do is let it breath !
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i have alot of torque i shred tires and peak tq in our cars is pretty low in the range wonder what kinda tq i was putting down and hp numbers hmmmmmm wonder what 450hp is going to feel like i cant wait
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coryjames did you get your turbo setup and run properly yet?
did you get a change to get it dyno?
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turbo was running fine before my oilpump failed the factory put a little to much gasket maker on my timing cover my chain wore it of clogged my pick up spun some bearings so the motor is getting a full build lol
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