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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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I installed Sonar projector headlamps with my HID's.

Am I an idiot for not re-sealing these with RTV or Silicone before even installing them? Should I just bite the bullet, un-install them and seal them and re-install them. I didnt realize that people had problems with fogging/condensation until I started to read around.

Am I foolin myself thinking that I might get away with not having condensation?
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Mine have only fogged lightly a couple times since I've had em. I've removed the boots over the high beam enclosure and that seems to have prevented further issues.
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I notied a tiny bit of fogging this morning. Removing the rubber boot around the high beam housing? Does that just vent the encosure a bit? Isnt that what most people try to prevent?
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It seems as though they aren't sealed enough to not let moisture in, but once it's there, it's tricky to get rid of it. By venting the high beam, it seems to allow for better air transfer, so there's no fogging, and it shouldn't really have any negative impact on the headlights.
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It seems as though they aren't sealed enough to not let moisture in, but once it's there, it's tricky to get rid of it. By venting the high beam, it seems to allow for better air transfer, so there's no fogging, and it shouldn't really have any negative impact on the headlights.
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I'm so drunk I'm seeing double posts.

I'd say pull em and seal em up again. Bake em first though.
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Stupid SL...double posting and all.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 03:17 AM
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Why does everyone bake them before resealing?

Another question. For some reason, with my HID's, they are not very bright in front of me, but will blind the ____ out of you if your off to the side.

I sat in another one of my cars to see if its blinding and if you look in your rearview mirror, they look kinda dim, and then if you look in the sideview, watch out cuz your going blind.

Whats the deal?

They really need to start designing these aftermarket products with HID's in mind because now that theyre cheap nobody is going to buy regular headlights anymore.
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You need to adjust them. There are two adjusters on each side, a right/left and an up/down.

Mine are awesome with HID.

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I just put in a new set, and i sealed the schitt outta them first, and still got a little fogging in the right one. I'm thinking of tying a little silica pouch to a piece of dental floss or something and popping it into the light, maybe at the turn signal. Seeing if that'll absorb the moisture. Or, i could just try to pull the high beam boot off if it's working for others.
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Adjusters!?!?!?! Where?!
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You can see the up/down when they're installed. Looks just like the adjuster on a regular headlight, sort of a toothed wheel.

The left/right adjuster is a little harder to get to... it's towards the bottom below the low beam.
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eek, I messed with the up down adjuster, I dont know how im supposed to know when ive got it right though. The side to side one is impossible to get to, and it doesnt seem to make any discernible difference. Any idea how to know when ive got it right? or even which way makes them turn narrow or wide? clockwise/counter
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Find a dark parking lot and direct the beam at a brick wall, that will let you see the adjustments you're making. I can't recall which way to turn off the top of my head.
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Alright, i'll try to figure it out. I wish it wasnt nearly impossible to turn the bottom wheel.
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Yea, me too... my driver's side needs to be adjusted inward a bit. If you put on gloves you can turn it by hand (it can chew up your hands a bit if you go in there bare).
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I wish there was a distinct cutoff or dispersion pattern we were shooting for so that I could look at it and say, oh ok it needs to cut off at that angle.
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Something's not right here. You have the right bulbs in there, right? You see how sharp my cutoff is, right?
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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I'll have to take a picture... I'm not sure wtf is going on.
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Off topic, but do you have pics with out the headlights on. I am curious to what these look like installed.



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