Like the title says.. I only have about 6 grand for it and i might just get an already swapped eg, but not sure yet? B16 and B18c1 have same hp (~170 i think) but gsr has more lower torque and the h22 has 210 hp stock (once again i think), but are known for there problems, What would you go with? Also i would love an itr or k series but im pretty sure thats out of my price range
highvoltage1
05-05-2010, 01:36 AM
H22 are a bad thing in a hatch. I have heard from alot of honda guys its not the best. A K20 is a good way to go. But a B16 or B18 is always a good choice.
tCtCtC
05-05-2010, 01:42 AM
O hai thar.
I should be able to help you on this. First off, how much power are you looking to make?
yellowxhoodie
05-05-2010, 02:09 AM
K>H>B>D
tCtCtC
05-05-2010, 02:20 AM
Built/Boosted D > LS Vtec
scion93
05-05-2010, 02:26 AM
See im looking to boost, definately but i would really like a k swapped eg but thats a little out of my price range i think, unless i find a good deal... im kinda leaning towards gsr and boost? and i know about the h22's i dont think i would get that, its heavy and has known problems...
oh and tctctc im looking for a decent amount, high 200, low 3's.. overall i have 9 grandish, but i figure 6 max for car and 3 for boost
tCtCtC
05-05-2010, 02:35 AM
If you want to boost it, then either go for a B series or build a D and turbo.
scion93
05-05-2010, 02:47 AM
but i heard gsr's have the same capacity for boost and have same compression for boost as b16, but the gsr's have more torque
bdis3
05-05-2010, 02:50 AM
Boost, i'd go for H series. I worked on one that was fully built/o-ringed/35r with full race manifold. Thing was super powerful. (needed slicks for traction on dyno) They're more expensive to build, but they make more power/torque.
N/A id say a K20.
scion93
05-05-2010, 02:52 AM
See i was wondering if i should just get a k20 hatch and save up for boost and not boost right away, i've been considering that.. or hey why not just get an f22 hatch hahaha
brett561tc
05-05-2010, 07:25 PM
h22. they are a lot easier and cheaper to get.
DJ08tC
05-05-2010, 07:57 PM
well you will not have trouble finding any help in f'burg with a honda, there are a million of them.
tCtCtC
05-05-2010, 10:29 PM
Search around Honda-Tech. It's a really big help. Also, if you want to buy a hatch thats already swapped, you can usually find one with a B series for fairly cheap.
G2Low
05-06-2010, 01:15 AM
.. overall i have 9 grandish, but i figure 6 max for car and 3 for boost
Boost isnt cheap, and dont cheap out on boost..
..what ever you figure out its going to cost, most likely times that by two..
save and k20 that m'fer, itll pay off when u start it the 1st time and youll be happier in the long run..
1989menace
05-06-2010, 01:17 AM
b20 with vtec head
scion93
05-06-2010, 01:36 AM
Okay so some opinions... k20 eg hatch or boosted si or gsr?
Another thing is that k20 hatchs are pretty hard to find, its not that common of a swap
1989menace
05-06-2010, 01:39 AM
Okay so some opinions... k20 eg hatch or boosted si or gsr?
Another thing is that k20 hatchs are pretty hard to find, its not that common of a swap
you kidding me! mostly everyone here has k20 swapped hatches..lol
miniaznkid
05-06-2010, 07:37 AM
gsr for boost
scion93
05-06-2010, 10:44 AM
Well in fredericksburg, va its not common at all
and i am kinda leaning towards gsr and boosting it
egobuster1
05-06-2010, 03:50 PM
it depends on what you really wanna do go NA or boosted but a K series is a great motor all around as you get rid of the timing belt for starters and makes more base HP but the vtec isnt nearly as strong.
the H series motors dont really know a hole lot about them but they are common motors and there out of a prelude which is a very quick/fast car with nice vtec kick..a lot of guys back when i came from the honda crowd were swapping them into there integras.
the B series motors are very strong all around. you could go b16 but for the same money id b18 with ether a b16 head to go for a poor mans type r conversion. the b18c is deff gonna give you more power stock then the b18b but the b18b/vtec conversion is deff got more torque and is low cost but the b18c is the better motor for boost but if you are set on going boost you can always pick up a b20b block very cheap and do a vtec head on it or just lose vtec and go all boost
dont go D simple
highvoltage1
05-06-2010, 09:16 PM
Frankenstein a D-series
scion93
05-06-2010, 11:05 PM
Ehh i dont know im leaning towards boosted gsr.. or k20.. i dont know yet haha... i would have to sell my car first
tCtCtC
05-07-2010, 12:29 AM
Like I said, boosted LS Vtec.
Murphys_Law
05-07-2010, 06:19 AM
b18b low compression built right dont need boost
scion93
05-07-2010, 07:06 PM
Butt i really want to hear that bov.. haha
scion93
05-08-2010, 01:18 AM
So next question to ask.. If i have 9 grand and get a eg hatch shell, full gsr swap, and turbo it... will i have enought money? Im thinking a grand for shell, 3 grand for swap/ 1500 for shop to put that it.. Then turbo 3 grand for turbo, and i will install that myself... any thoughts on that?
Murphys_Law
05-08-2010, 02:19 AM
should be enough. theyre some out there already done, finda a honda boy thatsjumping ship and buy his, i had a swapped and boosted sedan that was alot of fun, and sneaky with 4 doors
scion93
05-08-2010, 02:35 AM
But i would rather build my own car, so i know everything done to it.. not just a list of stuff someone else has done, if that makes sense haha
Murphys_Law
05-08-2010, 02:51 AM
makes sense i did the same, im serious go with a ls vech youll like it more and save an extra 1k on the build,GSRs aint cheap or go with a k series itll fit kinda
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu42/mugen-k24/Import%20Warz/DSC04911.jpg
Murphys_Law
05-08-2010, 02:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnaoVuhr0w&feature=related (http://scionlife.com/forums/%3Cobject%20width=)
yeah boy go big or go home, i have a del sol shell and have been wanting to do this
scion93
05-08-2010, 01:07 PM
That looks like the k20 doesnt fit.. and ive seen a j35 (tl type s) swapped eg hatch around here but i dont like how you have to cut the hood
couper2
05-08-2010, 04:40 PM
Butt i really want to hear that bov.. haha
Here ya go...
http://www.akamoto.co.uk/dump-valve.asp
$200 plus an EG and your done. :)
scion93
05-08-2010, 04:58 PM
Hahaha tempting.. just kidding
Murphys_Law
05-09-2010, 01:52 AM
hood? hoods are for wimps, go crazy on the swap and run a scoop, atleast youll have a scoop for a reason
scion93
05-09-2010, 03:46 PM
hmmmm.. i dont know what im going to doo haha, i need to sell my scion!
scion93
05-11-2010, 09:55 PM
bump, great info guys
AAG
05-11-2010, 10:28 PM
D16y8 so it doesn't get stolen
tCtCtC
05-11-2010, 10:37 PM
^ It'll still get stolen. ANY Honda will be stolen in Cali.
scion93
05-11-2010, 11:13 PM
Well lucky for me im in VA, and im gonna have a legit security system in mine, no worries
Murphys_Law
05-11-2010, 11:44 PM
i had a beater civic sedan stolen, and i purposely swapped the hood,fender and door to make it look like a beater, just cant hide that intercooler
scion93
05-12-2010, 01:37 AM
Haha yeah that is true...
jono06tc
05-12-2010, 01:41 AM
Has anyone tried the DSM intercooler stlye in the fenders?
scion93
05-12-2010, 01:44 AM
No, have you?
scion93
05-13-2010, 03:07 AM
ttt.. k20 eg or gsr eg hatch with hopes of boost... tough decisions..
scion93
05-13-2010, 08:15 PM
ttt
yellowxhoodie
05-13-2010, 08:52 PM
your prob not gonna get many more answers...
this is scionlife not hondatech
scion93
05-13-2010, 09:53 PM
your prob not gonna get many more answers...
this is scionlife not hondatech
prob not hah, but i was surprised of honda stuff on here.
tCtCtC
05-14-2010, 06:34 AM
Like the fantastic 2 threads that are here? lol.
scion93
05-14-2010, 10:53 AM
Haha still more than i would've guessed :)
jono06tc
05-14-2010, 12:34 PM
there so many different approaches... my friend just made 500 whp on a D series... but then again that not going to be reliable. i think b18's are the most reliable, especially the LS. you could try the LS vtec but your going to kill the motor fast. i suggest the LS or even better the GSR. get boosted and have a nice fun car. or you could do a K swap. over all i think you could do if for less the, was it 9K's. you could probaby do it for about 7.5...
tCtCtC
05-14-2010, 02:05 PM
You HAVE to atleast get rods and pistons if you want to boost an LS Vtec.
scion93
05-14-2010, 06:56 PM
See im reaallyyy leaning towards boosted gsr... prob at a 90% gsr and 10 % k swap or something else