Hey guys, just wanted to share my build with you all, see what you think..
Its an 04 camry se, 5-speed, 2az-fe, japan built---as popular as the camry is, there were not many of these built..
bought it brand new in december 2003, and slowly been modding it.. its got 170k miles now, still on the OEM clutch :crazy: and she gets beaten DAILY haha..
I figured this would be a better place to get info about the motor/clutch/etc than the lame toyota site---they all have auto's and never mod them beyond suspension/wheels..
Mods:
BC racing coilovers- 10k front/8k rear springs
Whiteline rear sway bar
ATE slotted rotors F/R
H&R rear camber kit
Motul trans fluid
XXR 522 18x9.5 +38 front/+25 rear
Kumho AST 225-40
I want a built motor, PTE6262, AEM EMS, DW1000's, and some corn fuel:shock:
My question is sorta vague... who builds the most reliable motors around the DC/MD/VA area? I am very close to PTuning. my plan was to just get an assembled bottom end, then an assembled head and install it myself..
Also, best all around street clutch? I was looking at either the Clutchmasters stage 2 or ACT street..
I found out something pretty cool... My gears are quite a bit longer than the Tc... My 2nd, at 6200rpm, is at 62mph, and 3rd is done at just over 90(on a closed road of course :silly:)
i guess that means it'll be a highway killer w/ 450whp!!!
and the E85 station is right next to my house.. i paid $3.98 for 87 while it was $3.75 for the corn..
10gxiong
05-03-2011, 03:30 PM
Looks great. Good luck with your future plans for the car.
pioneer1976
05-03-2011, 03:31 PM
were you located? Ive found 1 e85 station and curious were yours is at?
Im going to guess your close to ashburn....
blackg5
05-03-2011, 03:45 PM
^^ belmont ridge sunoco...
fullFXtc
05-03-2011, 03:53 PM
Deffinetly going to need more them a CM stage 2!!! You'll need at least a fx400 but It all depends on what kind if power your trying to get! But with a built motor and a 6262 you should be well over 400 and you might want to go with a fx500
blackg5
05-03-2011, 04:02 PM
Deffinetly going to need more them a CM stage 2!!! You'll need at least a fx400 but It all depends on what kind if power your trying to get! But with a built motor and a 6262 you should be well over 400 and you might want to go with a fx500
is that safe for the stock trans? seems like a pretty badass clutch, but the last thing i want is to break a gear..
how strong is the Tc trans? I thought PTuning's race car just had a sick clutch but stock trans..?
I actually drive the car 100+ miles a day right now, but when it gets built, it wont be a DD anymore but i still want it to be reliable..
thanks for the help guys!
Sparks_Scion_TRD_Parts
05-03-2011, 04:11 PM
That is one nice looking Camry!
Hayseed
05-03-2011, 04:43 PM
Haha the guy wfc wouldnt accept.
Can you just drop in any tc turbo kit into a camry?
blackg5
05-03-2011, 04:51 PM
Haha the guy wfc wouldnt accept.
Can you just drop in any tc turbo kit into a camry?
yea they can keep their number and their wrx's with 17x7's calling themselves "wrong fitment".... my car sits ~2 to the oil pan. thats low enough for me and my 100 mile daily commute.
lolz, i guess this isn't low enough is it?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd242/mjordan101/1cb31f6d.jpg
as far as i know, the only difference is the intercooler piping. everything else should bolt right up, i hope!
a guy in FL made 347whp with his 02 camry, swapped a stock 08 tc motor in it, with a custom dezod kit i think.. but he's got an auto..
Hayseed
05-03-2011, 05:03 PM
Well most camry's on there were super slammed...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5622631265_507fa776f2_b.jpg
I dont think I've ever seen 17x7's on that website... haha whatever.
GQQSE13
05-03-2011, 05:18 PM
thread moved since as your titles states NOT a tc....very nice though :)
blackg5
05-03-2011, 05:19 PM
Well most camry's on there were super slammed...
I dont think I've ever seen 17x7's on that website... haha whatever.
of course you post kenny's car.. if mine had the oem kit, it would be just as low.
haha, this one here sure is wrong fitment worthy :rofl: #3210
man bro ur wheels are so wide hahahaha.. i mean, ur spacers are so huge
anyway, enough blabber...
I just emailed Paul@ dezod about the Quaife LSD... I'll be ordering mine next week :icon_twisted:
thendawg
05-03-2011, 06:39 PM
The setup you speak of will be good into the 450-500whp range on E85, than youll run out of fuel on 1000cc inj, even with retarded high base fuel pressure. I know because your proposed setup is almost identical to mine.
I have built bottom end (9:1 cr Wiseco Pistons, BC Rods)
BC Valvesprings/Retainers
Precision 6262
DW 1000cc inj
DW301 fuel pump
and a custom fuel return setup.
Also youll prob want a twin disc clutch :)
Im using the EMan Ultimate and running 7500rpm rev limit on 20 ish psi currently.
With a bigger fuel setup, you should have no problems getting into the 500-600whp range with this setup, the motor, turbo, and everything else should be good for it. Im hopefully getting 1600cc inj soon :)
blackg5
05-03-2011, 06:44 PM
The setup you speak of will be good into the 450-500whp range on E85, than youll run out of fuel on 1000cc inj, even with retarded high base fuel pressure. I know because your proposed setup is almost identical to mine.
I have built bottom end (9:1 cr Wiseco Pistons, BC Rods)
BC Valvesprings/Retainers
Precision 6262
DW 1000cc inj
DW301 fuel pump
and a custom fuel return setup.
Also youll prob want a twin disc clutch :)
Im using the EMan Ultimate and running 7500rpm rev limit on 20 ish psi currently.
With a bigger fuel setup, you should have no problems getting into the 500-600whp range with this setup, the motor, turbo, and everything else should be good for it. Im hopefully getting 1600cc inj soon :)
what brand 1600's? I plan on doing AEM standalone, so bigger won't hurt! how do you like the emanage? i've heard good and bad.. i know Injector Dynamics should be able to make a set-- they have subaru injectors - 2000cc..
and with the 6262, when do you see full boost? I was just thinking a 30r .82 would be legit, but would run out of steam around 500whp--i think..?
what clutch would you recommend? I'm ordering the Quaife next week, then a clutch in a few weeks.. I want something streetable, preferably as stock feeling as possible..
I appreciate the response!! this is exactly why i came here from the toyota site, they all have auto's and never boost them..
torqueTc
05-03-2011, 07:04 PM
Wicked yota. Take it to Ptuning and get it done right the first time :)
thendawg
05-03-2011, 07:12 PM
As for a clutch, Id recommend the ClutchMasters FX600.
Im currently running Deatchwerks 1000cc injectors, and plan on getting them to work me up some 1600cc inj. (DW is located in OKC, so they are local to me and love helping me out with crazy ideas haha)
As for the 6262, I make full boost slightly over 4k - with a 7500 rpm redline I have a solid 3200-3500 rpm power band.
I dont have much experience with the 30r, but if youre going that route, I think youd wanna look more at the 35r.
Oh an after resolving a couple minor issues (Mostly my fault) the emanage ultimate is great and really does damn near anything an ems can do. Theres even a rumor on the street that soon the EMU will be able to do a set timing map so you can completely remove the stock ecu from the timing equation.
kenny_el2003
05-09-2011, 03:55 PM
cool
Hayseed
05-10-2011, 04:28 PM
here we go again
Hahaha This guy just cant seem to get a break. He brings it on himself though.
kenny_el2003
05-10-2011, 04:29 PM
Hahaha This guy just cant seem to get a break. He brings it on himself though.
i know lol
kenny_el2003
05-13-2011, 04:04 PM
thats pretty high miles to turbo. i rather get a lower miles engine and mess with it. rather play it safe and have it for a long run. goodluck
i20solara02i
05-13-2011, 09:24 PM
i would prefer going with the hydra ems. but it really depends who your tuner is and what ems he wants to tune with.
divisii
05-14-2011, 12:54 AM
Sick, sick, sick 2AZ!
As I'm sure you already kno' your trans is actually more suited to FI; 1st gear on tC's are short.
High mileage on a Toyota's no problem, but if your not gonna rebuild, at least do a compression check
rhythmnsmoke
05-18-2011, 12:45 AM
My question is sorta vague... who builds the most reliable motors around the DC/MD/VA area? I am very close to PTuning. my plan was to just get an assembled bottom end, then an assembled head and install it myself..
Your answer is in your question...:)
Nice Camry. I just bought a 2009 Camry LE that we have some plans for.
blackg5
06-13-2011, 06:27 PM
thats pretty high miles to turbo. i rather get a lower miles engine and mess with it. rather play it safe and have it for a long run. goodluck
I'm gonna do a compression check soon just to see how she's doing.. Just got back from a 450 mile trip to Ocean City-- tons of highway pulls lol, no probs AT ALL :love: except for my first "fender to lip" contact, fml... time to pull the rears!!!
i would prefer going with the hydra ems. but it really depends who your tuner is and what ems he wants to tune with.
yea i'd kinda rather have a standalone too, but I've heard good things about the EMU lately, and its mad cheaper, so we'll see.. PTuning would be getting their hands on the tune..
Sick, sick, sick 2AZ!
As I'm sure you already kno' your trans is actually more suited to FI; 1st gear on tC's are short.
thanks man!! the gears are really the main reason I'm considering FI--that and who has a stanced, 5-speed "japan built" camry with almost 200k wanting boost?? :cool:
Nice Camry.
i appreciate it, gl w/ the 09... kenny's car can give you some ideas, his is sick.
**edit--if the ARC intake from the tC fits my car, consider the boost out the window unless a TRD supercharger would fit with it... just looking at the pics of that intake make me want moar JDM
KiKaZ-tC
06-24-2011, 08:31 PM
I loved the manual transmission gear ratios that I had on my 2002 Toyota Camry. Second gear goes up to 60 mph, while third went up to 90 mph. LOVED IT!!!
DMC0585
07-16-2011, 03:45 AM
any updates on the camry?
blackg5
08-01-2011, 03:27 PM
I loved the manual transmission gear ratios that I had on my 2002 Toyota Camry. Second gear goes up to 60 mph, while third went up to 90 mph. LOVED IT!!!
^yup, its pretty cool how long the gears are..
I just did a theoretical calculation -- with a 7500rpm limit and 245-45-18 tires, it would do 42, 73, 113, 155, and 205mph :shock:
That's compared to 39, 68, 105, 144, 192mph with the tC final drive.
Maybe its time for 650whp, gutted, caged, and big seat belts :rofl:
**picked up a set of 245-40 direzzas, gonna raise the car up a bit and have some sticky tires for the rest of the summer. should be fun
Nice ride. Id love to take it off your hands if i was closer. Id deal with oil consumption for a bit til i could get a new engine in there.
Roller_Toaster
01-23-2012, 07:08 PM
I found out something pretty cool... My gears are quite a bit longer than the Tc... My 2nd, at 6200rpm, is at 62mph, and 3rd is done at just over 90(on a closed road of course :silly:)
Exactly the reason why many of us have/are swapping camry tran's into our scions :D
Blackedout011TC
01-24-2012, 07:08 PM
You switched from synthetic to non-synthetic oil. I have made the same mistake with the same results. Not quite as much oil consumption as your's, but at 200k you got your money's worth.
It's a nice ride, you could build the beast you want and come out cheaper than buying a new ride. The "new" car feeling does not last long, the payments do though! All in what you want though.
Nice ride. Id love to take it off your hands if i was closer. Id deal with oil consumption for a bit til i could get a new engine in there.
thanks man! It only started using oil recently, but still gets 30+mpg on my 94 mile daily commute so, keep rollin!!
Exactly the reason why many of us have/are swapping camry tran's into our scions :D
:icon_mrgreen:
You switched from synthetic to non-synthetic oil. I have made the same mistake with the same results. Not quite as much oil consumption as your's, but at 200k you got your money's worth.
It's a nice ride, you could build the beast you want and come out cheaper than buying a new ride. The "new" car feeling does not last long, the payments do though! All in what you want though.
the only reason I still roll around in the camry, it's been paid off for almost 4 years now. can't beat only having a $60 insurance payment per month..
and you're right, I could build the living shat out of it and have somethin pretty special.. we'll see.. I've always wanted a pair of Recaros, a quick-release steering wheel, and big brakes. The 08+ highlander rotors/calipers actually bolt on and are larger than Supra TT brakes :gun:
*now the consumption-- I tossed in Seafoam for the last 1k miles of an oil change, ran the living ____ out of it until I changed the oil... It's been using oil ever since (180k, at 195k now)
good lookin out! If I keep the car, might as well do a PTuning built block since they're right up the street from me!
Blackedout011TC
01-25-2012, 03:41 PM
Why did you Seafoam it? Top end have build up you could see in the oil fill hole? If a car has been run on good synthetic changed at regular intervals, there is no need to Seafoam it. Mobil has done studies proving that normal engines with their syn. oil ran for 100k miles, still meet factory mic. specs on all internal wear items. I used Mobil 1 full syn. in all my rides for 18 years, none used oil and the oil came out clean at 5k intervals. When the prices shot up a while back, I switched to a cheaper non syn oil. Castrol I think. It was a long time ago, vehicle was a Nissan truck with 120k on the O.D. The very next oil change at 3k was 1.5 qts low. It burned oil even after I tried to change back. Anyways, I'm :blah:... Good luck with your project.
blackg5
01-25-2012, 03:54 PM
Why did you Seafoam it?
heard good things, and I tried it first in just the vacuum line and gas tank at around 150k and it worked BRILLIANTLY. car ran SO much better but didn't use even a drop of oil.. then at 180-ish I did it in the crankcase and BAM, she gets thirsty.
it's all good, car has been way more reliable than I could ever asked for. its still on the stock clutch for cryin out loud :lol:
Roller_Toaster
01-25-2012, 04:25 PM
its still on the stock clutch for cryin out loud :lol:
:jawdrop:
blackg5
01-25-2012, 04:30 PM
what's funny is I can still dump the S*** out of it and it'll still grab... gets a bit soft, but still takes care of business :pray: