Ok so I have had my xB almost 3 weeks now and have come to realize I realy want the Euro tail lights. but the $200 on eBay and $295 at my dealer price is a little steep right now for me... The thing I realized I liked the most about them was that the edges are black so from the side the white/clear lense isnt so obviouse.. so now we come to the im broke (wheels, tires, and springs) and I do some vinyl work.. I said lets just do somthing differant... here is what happened..
http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/xb.gif
http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/xb2.gif
http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/xb3.gif
http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/xb4.gif
http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/xb5.gif

I know this isnt everyones style and I am working on some more conservative (non tribalspider) designs... I think I might swing these on eBay any input anyone?

that looks realy good!!!! but i like the clean look i think u should put them on ebay i think they would sale very well!!!!

damn...that looks hot...it's fire! :D

I might be interested in a flame one... depends on the looks/price tho.

- Jugglah

that is a ticket just waiting to happen!

THese are a few others im working with I think theone on the right will be the conservative won..

http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/tailight.gif

that is a ticket just waiting to happen!

Why is it a ticket? everything shows.. brakes, Blinkers, even that damn red reflector.. all visible.. oh yea and reverse.. I dont think there is any law on designs over them as long as they are visable.. take for instance the late 80s mustang GTs.. coverd all the hell up but still visable.. There is as much showing on this design as an altezza has..

THese are a few others im working with I think theone on the right will be the conservative won..

http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/tailight.gif

ya i like the 3rd one better!!!!

THese are a few others im working with I think theone on the right will be the conservative won..

http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/tailight.gif

ya i like the 3rd one better!!!!

yea. the third one looks good and is a little more conservative. im an xa-guy thou.

i just know from my past experience, anything to mess around w/ tails pull you over pretty quick in philly

Why is it a ticket? everything shows.. brakes, Blinkers, even that damn red reflector.. all visible.. oh yea and reverse.. I dont think there is any law on designs over them as long as they are visable.. take for instance the late 80s mustang GTs.. coverd all the hell up but still visable.. There is as much showing on this design as an altezza has..

You may be right. All I know is I was pulled over all the time when I had covers over my tail lights......I can only imagine that a sticker is going to be as bad.

OMG that is too cool.......where do you find this "vinyl"???

Thats cool lookin. Not sure I would do it but I looks neat when the lights are on.

i dig the third one... far right.

how much will u consider selling them for? any choice of vinyl colors?

i don't see problem with ticket...because the cutout will show all the necessary lights (brakes, turn signal and reverse).

the only way u can really bait urself for a taillight ticket is if those areas were totally covered like those dark tinted plastic ones.

I have been down this road just recently here in NJ. My NEON failed state inspection because i modified my stock tails. According to state law, any modification to stock tail lights is a no-no. Any after market tail has to be DOT approved, and have the DOT stamp on the tail itself. Just as simple as that. Because i failed inspection for the tails i could have gotton a ticket from a cop because i was breaking the law for modified tails.

Just to note, i have been pulled over countless times for different reasons, all with the modified tails on my car, and never had a cop bust my stones over them. Matter of fact, i have 2 different pull overs where the cops loved the look of my NEON, go figure.

I used to get pulled over all the time for caddy tails in my s10... but they were DOT approved.. they had no reverse light...

xB guy the vinyl is from my plotter I make them.. Im working on a few differant designs once I get them all straight ill see what the actual cost will be. Of course I can do them in any color Vinyl I have or is available... Im thinking some Carbon Fiber soon myself..

i like it (one on the right). how does the vinyl stand up to the sun and weather, meaning what will it look like in say 1 year? faded, peeling, etc?

Right now im using a vinyl that is rated for outdoor signage for 7 year lifespan.. So figure atleast 5 years.. with any kind of care ide guess in the 8-9 year range.. they expect a sign to be put up and never touched, cleaned, or taken care of and at that sort of abuse its rated at 7 years outside in the elements. I understand the tail light covers... with a tinted cover the reflector is not visable.. and I understand the Caddi taillights with no reverse.. those are obviously missing somthing... this is a fine line and Im sure in some states and in some situations it could cause problems.. ( the spiders ) I think the one sample im working on the right would have ZERO negatives.. it will give you the nice black edge that the euro tails have and nicely break up the taillights.. But also leave the spots wide open.. Im goign to run them around here localy (FL) for a while to see if I get any crap.. but I doubt it..our LEOs here are pretty kewl.. I have to admit they are a bit tricky to get on right... a lot of patience.. removal of the tail lights is recomended... it takes 2 minuts and 2 nuts each.. a little soapy water then work them with a firm squeegee like deal... stretch them at the top corner and they turn out good.. Obviously ill get a good set of directions to go with them as well.. I could also do some custom ones.. I almost did some scion logos last night.. The flames are a great idea but they dont lend to the design.. I need a big opening at the top one at the bottom and two half sizers in the middle.. with flames the licks at the top were thin right in the brake light... a no good situation.. What would you guys pay for somthing like this? I want to be reasonable I mean its only a sticker.. And of course Ide like to make some money isnt that why we all work.. let th ideas roll in..

http://www.elginappraisals.com/jonah/tailight.gif

I like the ones on the right. And in the fake CF too please. Or black is fine.

Costs to CA?

Just a suggestion...

any shot of developing one incorporating the Scion logo and the xB logo?

I'd be curious to see that. :)

I originaly started with that... the Scion logo... then I started thinking.. we are realy a weird bunch of people.. we debadge our Scions only to ad xB and scion in other places and ways.. I guess its just a way of making it ours.. the xB logo lends to parts of the design as does the straight scion lettering.. if it were repeated.. like stacked one on annother... I can put things together and see how it goes..

dont realy know how much it cost u but i think i would be willing to pay 20 to 30 bucks for the covers shipped

it looks good. but, its illegal because you cant see the light from the side.

Randy isnt that what the red sidemarker is for on the bumper? Take a look at the Euro "Factory option" tails and they are blacked out on the side as well.. thats where this all got started from.. how good they looked without the white of the light on the side of the xB

Can you do some that look like this?

http://www.speakeasy.org/~mdhewitt/scion/images/P2297665.jpg


I'd order a pair TODAY! Just the black portions would solve my problem...

Let's get that plotter working. Where do I send the money order? Paypal? I want I want I want.

Those are what started this whole thing with me... I like the black on the edges instead of the frosty white... So my original idea was do somthing close to that... But the limitations of the stock lights and their placement makes it dificult.. oh and the above posted pics are the only pair to be in exhistance.. My system went down last week loosing all my work I hadent backed up to the other system... and there wasnt enough interest in them to spend the hours rebuilding.. I got more commin just had a little setback.. and what do you need with vinyl you orderd the TYCs already.

keep up the good work... the creativity is flowing