is there a big loss between auto n manual for the tc?

 

not a big loss but a loss indeed....i have an auto and i think autos have much more of an advantage over manuals....

 

how does auto have an advantag over manual??

 

LOL!! manuals have advantage over autos cause first, they are light and they dont weigh as much as the auto transmission, and in manual, you can rev as high as you want (on the tC 5 times because its a 5 speed.) and autos can only rev high once.

 

manual is unreliable, and plus the auto gas mileage is better, and auto u have a comfort, during those nights when ur just tired and dont feel like driving, having an auto makes it much easier. gas mileage is a plus. the only plus manual has over the auto is a lil faster

 

You're right...but your information backing your statement is wrong. I think the auto is capable of redlining the car, right? The reason why the manual has an advantage over the auto in the tC is because first, it has one more gear, and second the gearing is a lot more aggressive in the manual than in the auto.

 

thats what i meant... lol

 

Unreliable??? so so so SO not true....less moving parts always equals better reliability...i don't think i have ever seen an automatic with over 150,000 miles...i am sure there are some out there, but they are much more rare then a manual with over 150,000mileson it...so i would have to disagree on the auto being more reliable! The only reason for someone to own an automatic is either if they live in the city (b/c of traffic reasons) they're older and are tired of driving a manual, (ex. cadillac, or other luxury car) or they are just people who don't feel like putting in the extra affort of driving a manual... i have nothing against auto drivers..(seriously i don't) i am obviously a manual driver and i wouldn't have it any other way!

-Scott

 

That is a very bias and selfish comment saying manual is unreliable and that it has no other positive sides other than power. Sure you may be correct about the being lazy or tired part. Manual on most cars but not on the tC has better fuel milage, less brake wear due to engine braking and you can downshift at anytime desired without having to wait for the tranny decide which gear is suitable for your speed. Auto trannys are known to be less if not equally as reliable. As we all know the more complicated things are the more the chances of something going wrong. Manual and auto trannies are pretty much apples and oranges. To each its own. By the way... oranges own =D

 

First, properly driven a manual is s more reliable than an auto. Second, drive both, the manual will outperform the auto hands down. If you dont like shifting, then the auto is the better idea, other than that, there are no advantages of the auto, except a minor increase in mileage, which brings up more of a point: Manuals of the same gear ratio will always produce better mileage than an auto, so it shows how much performance difference there is on the tC given that they built the auto to provide better mileage.

 

Also, the biggest wear factor in a manual is the clutch... trust me, replacing a clutch is MUCH cheaper and easier than rebuilding an auto when it goes.

 

Yep, $150 for a clutch replacement and flywheel turning. Compare that to a $800 auto tranny rebuild.

 

it's also 5x easier to break a manual transmission than an automatic. cheaper, to fix, yes, but still easier to break.

 

i thank you guys who know the true story of a manual transmission. they are better on gas if you handel them right and you wont need a clutch if you know how to drivem and yes they are cheaper/lighter & reliable than a auto. i know because every car my mom ever owned was a manual and she never had to replace a tranny in 20 years!!!! she doesnt drive slow either

 

so is the auto tranny a lot weaker n slower than the manual

 

Only if you dont know how to drive one, which is why it is totally dependent on the driver in that aspect. And if you race drive an auto you can bet you can break it just the same. Power braking an auto on the starting line is a sure quick way to burn it up... and trust me, that costs more than a clutch. If we are talking about normal driving with good drivers on each, the manual is not easy to break. If we are talking about racing (in which the stock auto will lose by a good margin) then you are most likely going to break something big on the auto first. The manual, when it breaks in a race type setting will destroy the clutch most times before damaging the tranny. If not, it will be the diff that goes, which can happen with an auto just the same.

 

A properly tuned auto will beat a manual in power off the line because their is no margin for error, alot of drag cars have this set up. Just think back to the supra's of the nineties that were busting manual transmissions. Toyota didnt have a turbo powered manual supra until the end of the production run. I think both have their advantages but in my opinion for drag I'd go with auto, for drifting and rally I'd have to go with manual because of control and engine braking.

 

Properly tuned.. correct, so an auto that costs about 50% more than the stock one will perform on par with the manual. And they may be pushing it. I have been around some very responsive autos, but they are hardly stock autos.. especially the tC auto. You would spend a good amount making it perform to par with the manual.