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mikek6789
08-19-2005, 07:07 AM
to install a turbo on a tc, is it neccassary to replace the head?

kungpaosamuraiii
08-19-2005, 07:19 AM
Only if you really want to put the turbo on.. then yea.


Jibes aside, the turbo sits right on the header and is powered by the gases that come directly out of the block. Try:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/


header - WOOPS

matty-tC
08-19-2005, 01:00 PM
to replace the head? no it is not.

matty-tC
08-19-2005, 01:01 PM
Only if you really want to put the turbo on.. then yea.


Jibes aside, the turbo sits right on the header and is powered by the gases that come directly out of the block. Try:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/

what are you talking about "really want to put the turbo on"?

he didn't say header :wink:

aarontrini85
08-19-2005, 01:03 PM
and lest go with another no you will need to remove every thing that is before the throttle body sutch as intake piping and the airbox and also your exhaust manifold will need to come off other then that nothing should realy need to come off

GoSwim
08-19-2005, 01:08 PM
The simple answer is no. Installing a turbo kit is just a really extensive remove/bolt-on project.

Solarxb20
08-19-2005, 01:54 PM
The simple answer is no. Installing a turbo kit is just a really extensive remove/bolt-on project.

^^^ What he said.

TCguy8
08-19-2005, 02:13 PM
I was wondering if installing a turbo is easy enough to do at home in
your garage?

Fm_Tc_In_Ma
08-19-2005, 02:17 PM
I was wondering if installing a turbo is easy enough to do at home in
your garage?



I think those who ask if they can install it themselves..........shouldn't.

I mean no offense in saying that.

Marshall
08-19-2005, 02:46 PM
The ZPI kit is fully "bolt-on" and have stated they like to think that "if you can change your own oil", that should able to install the kit. ZPI techs can perform the install in 3 hrs, a novice mech in 6 hrs, and a beginner mech in 6-8 hrs.

Fm_Tc_In_Ma
08-19-2005, 02:55 PM
The ZPI kit is fully "bolt-on" and have stated they like to think that "if you can change your own oil", that should able to install the kit. ZPI techs can perform the install in 3 hrs, a novice mech in 6 hrs, and a beginner mech in 6-8 hrs.

On a totally different note, yet somewhat relavent.....the guide to installing the x86 version of osx is made to be simple enough for people who can browse the internet and read email. Well, do you know how many people can't get past the first step without being totally clueless?


Like I said..if you have to ask how to do it, your best bet is to have someone do it who knows how to.

toastbox
08-19-2005, 03:06 PM
I'm gonna refine what people are saying:

if you have to ask if the head needs to be removed for a turbo install, you should not attempt this without guidance/help.

That's not meant to be an insult, or offensive, but one of the biggest problems I've seen in "do it yourself tuning" is people not knowing what they are getting into, because they don't have a clear understanding of what they are doing, or how things work.

aarontrini85
08-19-2005, 04:07 PM
I was wondering if installing a turbo is easy enough to do at home in
your garage?



I think those who ask if they can install it themselves..........shouldn't.

I mean no offense in saying that.


you have to try to learn i would do it my self but that is just how i am

mikek6789
08-19-2005, 05:37 PM
I'm gonna refine what people are saying:

if you have to ask if the head needs to be removed for a turbo install, you should not attempt this without guidance/help.

That's not meant to be an insult, or offensive, but one of the biggest problems I've seen in "do it yourself tuning" is people not knowing what they are getting into, because they don't have a clear understanding of what they are doing, or how things work.

i read a tutorial and they took the head and gasket off and i was like wtf o.O

so i was wondernig if that was neccassary for the tc..

aarontrini85
08-19-2005, 06:27 PM
I'm gonna refine what people are saying:

if you have to ask if the head needs to be removed for a turbo install, you should not attempt this without guidance/help.

That's not meant to be an insult, or offensive, but one of the biggest problems I've seen in "do it yourself tuning" is people not knowing what they are getting into, because they don't have a clear understanding of what they are doing, or how things work.

i read a tutorial and they took the head and gasket off and i was like wtf o.O

so i was wondernig if that was neccassary for the tc..

who took the head off??? zpi??? if it was zpi they probly but a there stage 1 head on there along with the turbo other then that there is no real reason to do it unless there doing the headgasket stacking i have seen some ppl do on honda-tech.com

reagulator
08-19-2005, 06:34 PM
our compression ratio is not as high as an honda so i dont think stacking gaskets is needed

GoSwim
08-19-2005, 07:44 PM
I was wondering if installing a turbo is easy enough to do at home in
your garage?
The simple answer to this question is yes you can install it in your home garage (with proper tools of course), but there is nothing easy about it.

aarontrini85
08-19-2005, 07:48 PM
i dont realy see what would be hard it just seems time consuming probly the only part that would realy suck woudl be draining the oil pan and making the hole to feed oil to the turbo every thing else just seems to bold in to place

or am i missing a realy big step??? maybe wiring up the piggy back ecu but thats only hard becouse im red green color blind

matty-tC
08-19-2005, 08:30 PM
our compression ratio is not as high as an honda so i dont think stacking gaskets is needed

you are correct, sir.


you would only lower the compression ratio if you were building up the engine for big boost (1 bar +)

mikek6789
08-19-2005, 10:35 PM
i dont realy see what would be hard it just seems time consuming probly the only part that would realy suck woudl be draining the oil pan and making the hole to feed oil to the turbo every thing else just seems to bold in to place

or am i missing a realy big step??? maybe wiring up the piggy back ecu but thats only hard becouse im red green color blind

LMFAO!!!

matty-tC
08-19-2005, 11:53 PM
lol

halfbreed
08-20-2005, 09:29 PM
our compression ratio is not as high as an honda so i dont think stacking gaskets is needed actually the acura integra (non-vtec) is the same CR as the TC. only the vtec models have the higher CR (compression ratio for the idiots)

Kenshin
08-20-2005, 10:04 PM
i dont realy see what would be hard it just seems time consuming probly the only part that would realy suck woudl be draining the oil pan and making the hole to feed oil to the turbo every thing else just seems to bold in to place

or am i missing a realy big step??? maybe wiring up the piggy back ecu but thats only hard becouse im red green color blind

ZPI sends you with a brand new oil pan already with an oil line to the turbo :).

Fm_Tc_In_Ma
08-20-2005, 10:08 PM
only the vtec models have the higher CR (compression ratio for the idiots)

So only an idiot wouldn't know that CR stands for Compression Ratio?

Thanks for letting this idiot know.

reagulator
08-20-2005, 10:13 PM
ZPI sends you with a brand new oil pan already with an oil line to the turbo :).

noob question: how does the oil get pumped to the turbo. i dont think there is oil pressure in the oil pan when it is a wet sump system

mikek6789
08-21-2005, 12:55 AM
ZPI sends you with a brand new oil pan already with an oil line to the turbo :).

noob question: how does the oil get pumped to the turbo. i dont think there is oil pressure in the oil pan when it is a wet sump system.

ZOMFG ROFL R U SUM KIMD O IDIOT?????

THE OIL LEAVE THE STRUOB TO THE OIL BAPN!!!!! , IT OCMES FORM THE BLOCK <LOLOOLOLOL

Fm_Tc_In_Ma
08-21-2005, 01:05 AM
ZOMFG ROFL R U SUM KIMD O IDIOT?????

THE OIL LEAVE THE STRUOB TO THE OIL BAPN!!!!! , IT OCMES FORM THE BLOCK <LOLOOLOLOL

Are you retarded or 12. I am hoping for the latter.

matty-tC
08-21-2005, 01:51 AM
ZPI sends you with a brand new oil pan already with an oil line to the turbo :).

noob question: how does the oil get pumped to the turbo. i dont think there is oil pressure in the oil pan when it is a wet sump system

this may have your answer

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/A_2606/xBXyt34qy_1/cms/article.html

Hudnut
08-21-2005, 03:52 AM
I was wondering if installing a turbo is easy enough to do at home in
your garage?



I think those who ask if they can install it themselves..........shouldn't.

I mean no offense in saying that.Word. Some people scare me

Typhoon
12-26-2005, 07:10 PM
While I agree with you guys on that a person that asks questions how easy is the install and weatehr they can do it themselves shouldnt install a turbo. I dont agree that you should just tell the person that he cant do it. Derect them in the right way to learn about the setup and how to do it. I started out just like him but now I think with a lot of time and a few mistakes I can do the install.

Read as many articles on turbos as you can until you fully understand how a turbo setup works and what is needed to set it up like change the header to manifold waste gate, oil lines, vacume hoses and so on. I think if you read up enough then you should install the zpi kit with minimal mistakes. Also look for help from people who have done the install like sciondad helped quite a few people on installs and there is a thread in f/i forums of someone posting their experiences with the kit and commom mistakes.

Get as ready as possible and everything should work out.

BTW performance shops arent necessarily any better, I know tons of people that blew their money away for the installation and ended up having the same problems that people get when they install kits themselves unless you can get zpi themsleves to install or a performance shop that you personaly know dont waste money on it.

WeDriveScions
12-26-2005, 07:24 PM
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